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OfflineHotdog from Space
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Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis.
    #26451143 - 01/25/20 03:52 AM (4 years, 4 days ago)

I had one hell of a night yesterday. Ingested 4.5g og cubensis. This trip was something else, and my first that I would describe as a breakthrough.

I was basically transported back to the origin point of the universe, let's call it Microsoft Paint, where the human reality is painted - where the self manifests the world. I saw that death was not real, just some kind of play. What happens is that there is some kind of shift, nothing is lost really.

While tripping I was listening to nature sounds, birds specifically, and I saw that these noises they make are the universe itself, they going like: "squirp, doooo" and all kinds of weird noises, saying: "look what I can do", and then they change reality with these funny noises. 

I also heard lots of traffic noise from the outside, some people was making a lot of motornoises and speeding. And it occured to me that also this is a game, but its a much stupider game than the birds game. It's aggressive, infantile and destructive.

Its like they by doing this are saying to themself: "I AM HERE" and you better reckonize me! "I AM HERE, I AM HERE" this obsessive need to tell the world that they are here. And the universe responds to itself by saying "Fuck you!", that is to say, climate change and destruction. Why? cause it's a infantile and rude game, the loud noises are simply irritating, its a bad game.

And I really saw the end of the whole western civilization do to this kind of misunderstanding of life, rudeness, noisyness, stupid thoughts.


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26451245 - 01/25/20 05:51 AM (4 years, 4 days ago)

Sounds pretty intense. Did you have any intentions on breaking through.. or did you just go with the flow unexpectedly?

I def agree with the things you have experienced. We're so irrelevant to so many things in this universe, our ego's do anything to be noticed. No one likes to be left out the conversation, the one not invited to the party.. so we do these things to remind people - "Hey, I'm HERE".

But in reality, we are all doing the same thing. Make a bunch of noises, going through these robotic motions and going on about our day like we're something magnificent and actually have an impact.

Don't get me wrong; both men and women have made great discovery's and inventions.. but big picture..? Doesn't mean a damn thing. Just seems like it does because we have these brain that gives us these egos, that gives us these emotions - thinking we are more or less to certain people.

Very weird shit man.


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26451342 - 01/25/20 07:05 AM (4 years, 4 days ago)

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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Sounds pretty intense. Did you have any intentions on breaking through.. or did you just go with the flow unexpectedly?

I def agree with the things you have experienced. We're so irrelevant to so many things in this universe, our ego's do anything to be noticed. No one likes to be left out the conversation, the one not invited to the party.. so we do these things to remind people - "Hey, I'm HERE".

But in reality, we are all doing the same thing. Make a bunch of noises, going through these robotic motions and going on about our day like we're something magnificent and actually have an impact.

Don't get me wrong; both men and women have made great discovery's and inventions.. but big picture..? Doesn't mean a damn thing. Just seems like it does because we have these brain that gives us these egos, that gives us these emotions - thinking we are more or less to certain people.

Very weird shit man.




My intentions where something like the question: "What is this (life) all about". Why am I in this particular situation.

I still got questions, but a veil, actually many veils, has defintly been lifted from my eyes.

Likely, you dont want it all at once. Cause it is seriousely intense at this level, you are transported to a whole different dimension. The world and you become one. And it's like: "I created this universe, I am the whole universe, what were i really doing? and what am I doing?"

To me it seems like human ignorance actually is essential, cause if you are "up there" you cannot function, that is to say, you cannot play the game when you are all, and "the show must go on". So going back to a state of ignorance (but less than before) seems important.

At least until you can handle the secret, until you can synthesize the incredible weirdness with the normal. This for me, has explained why people have bad trips. And why one often get the fear of being stuck in a eternal loop that one cannot get out of. Its the question of how to synthesize the spook-stuff with the normal, with everyday life as it unfolds.


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26451461 - 01/25/20 08:59 AM (4 years, 4 days ago)

That breakthrough is about a page of Hegel.


Edited by sideroxylon (01/25/20 09:12 AM)


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: sideroxylon]
    #26451530 - 01/25/20 09:36 AM (4 years, 4 days ago)

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That breakthrough is about a page of Hegel.




I havent read Hegel, but please explain more.

Direct experience and the written word are two completely different things. And, I'm more in the Wittgenstein camp, which likens philosophy with a sort of intellectual sickness, a misuse of the language.

Cause ...

You cannot transfer an experience from your mind to another mind via language, therefore, language is better seeen as games and not taken to seriousely. It's basically the Zen doctrine and method of preperation for enlightenment.


Edited by Hotdog from Space (01/25/20 09:41 AM)


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26451553 - 01/25/20 09:50 AM (4 years, 4 days ago)

I agree but keep in mind Wittgenstein read Hegel, who read Kant, who had read Plato.


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: sideroxylon]
    #26454217 - 01/26/20 09:09 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

It's weird, cause right now I am high on weed and wondering what was so intense about that trip that I almost feared i would have trouble ever acting normaly again.

I guess weed just relaxes you way to much?

I mean, isnt it wise to have at least some, at least minor fears of high doses mushrooms?

Weed says "no!", "no need! eat 10 grams next time".


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26454337 - 01/26/20 11:54 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

Sounds like a good trip:crazy2:


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: SFS96]
    #26457327 - 01/28/20 06:00 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Yeah, Wittgenstein is known for the picture theory of language. Unfortunately as psychedelics reach a wider group, it’ll probably become of more interest. I would think that any such kind of person would turn to philosophy, and science, to make sense of their trips. Hallucinations play a role as much as dreams.
But it’s about language. That’s why some put so much effort into constructing a sentence, because it forces an image in the reader’s or audience’s head. You basically want to pick the right words.
There comes a point when a person tries to match his inner life with the outer life. Inner and outer space are reliant, like dark energy expanding space.
It’s a way for the universe to “breathe”. But there’s no intrinsic reason for it to be expanding at increasing speeds instead of fluctuating or coming together.


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26457484 - 01/28/20 07:22 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Hotdog from Space said:
It's weird, cause right now I am high on weed and wondering what was so intense about that trip that I almost feared i would have trouble ever acting normaly again.

I guess weed just relaxes you way to much?

I mean, isnt it wise to have at least some, at least minor fears of high doses mushrooms?

Weed says "no!", "no need! eat 10 grams next time".



Yeah. I mean I get that while tripping on mushrooms alone. A lot of the time I wish I had taken more.. but there's a fine line I believe. Where I feel like - once you get to that one place, it will literally be impossible for you to be the same person you were before that trip. Which could either be great.. or terrible.

I just stay humble with them, gradually increasing the dosage with the best set&settings... and give myself to the mushrooms and just hope they don't destroy me. They've tried a few times.. but I've done well at holding my ground and not letting them completely mindfuck me.

Mushrooms LOVE to play. Fun little bastards they are. Also sneaky:lol:


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Re: Breakthrough on 4.5g cubensis. [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26457540 - 01/28/20 07:58 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I’m curious, during the experience were you aware of your body? Were your eyes open? Did you move?


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