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Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? *DELETED*
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? [Re: Swinette]
#26450845 - 01/24/20 09:28 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Sure but unnecessary. Coir works perfectly fine by itself. Assuming you're growing cubensis.
Ps - check out Mushroom Cultivation portion of the forum. That's where these questions can be answered. This section is for when those little buggers grow from this sub you're working on - and you toss them down your gullet and meet geometric space - then you come back here and ask us what the fuck just happened.
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? *DELETED* [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? [Re: Swinette]
#26450855 - 01/24/20 09:39 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Oh I misunderstood. I don't really go clicking outside links other than Amazon links
No man. Just get yourself some Coir That's literally all you will need. I thought you meant mixing coir and verm 50/50 - some people do that. But its unnecessary as coir gives your sub all the nutrients it needs.
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? [Re: Swinette]
#26451132 - 01/25/20 03:19 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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a good question!
not sure if anyone uses BRF/Verm for Monos. Maybe shoeboxes.
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? [Re: Swinette] 1
#26451179 - 01/25/20 04:36 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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I’ve colonised BRF PF Tek cakes then instead of putting into the SGFC, I’ve broken the cakes up and mixed with peat moss in small foil trays, then put them in the SGFC. Got some good crops; much better crops than from cakes alone. I wa getting about 5g to 7g dry permcake; this more than doubled when mixing into trays.
Though to be fair, once you have a couple of PF Tek grows under your belt, you’ll find creating grain spawn then mixing into coir in a monotub is far easier, and vastly bigger crops....
Good luck DJ Ed
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) [Re: Swinette]
#26451454 - 01/25/20 08:55 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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This thread was moved from The Psychedelic Experience.
Reason: Wait this isnt Mush Cult? Now this is better....
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26451570 - 01/25/20 10:00 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Yeah not sure exactly what you're asking. BRF and verm cakes, once colonized, can be shredded to coir and used as a sub. BRF and verm itself when colonized is a substrate. It can be laid out in trays, cased or uncased.
If you're asking if you can use spawn to inoculate BRF/verm in a mono or something, theres a few people who have done that but under sterile conditions as far as i've heard
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) *DELETED* [Re: naturalistic123]
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? [Re: Swinette] 1
#26451629 - 01/25/20 10:43 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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You're going to grow a tub of fail doing that. There are lots of proven teks in the threads stickied at the top of both this forum and Getting Started. I suggest using one from there. Don't combine them, don't use pieces from different teks, use one tek and stick to the tek exactly.
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) [Re: Swinette]
#26451635 - 01/25/20 10:47 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Quote:
Swinette said:
I think im going to mix 33/33/33 Coco coir, BRF, and verm. just 100% coir
After my grain jars have colonized im going to introduce them into the tub with that mixture of bulk
Fixed it for ya
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) [Re: Swinette]
#26451695 - 01/25/20 11:24 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Swinette said: I am just trying to figure out my bulk substrate that i will be using in my mono.
I think im going to mix 33/33/33 Coco coir, BRF, and verm.
After my grain jars have colonized im going to introduce them into the tub with that mixture of bulk
Yeah, don't do that...
While I certainly won't discourage you from experimenting with novelty grows, there's a logical reason why this will fail: The uncolonized BRF in your substrate will be a fertile breeding ground for all kinds of undesirables before your spawn has a chance to recolonize.
As noted above, you'd need sterile conditions to have a chance at success with this plan and there's no reason to add BRF when coir gets the same results without the nearly 100% chance of failure.
I do small test grows to experiment with other substrate mixes with one quart out of every 7 jar batch. I buy clear disposable seed trays so it won't mess up entire monotubs if they contam (and they often do). I can easier see all sides of the substrate and throw away the whole tray if things go south. Here's the trays I use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TXB7W4G/
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) [Re: mushboy]
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Quote:
mushboy said:
Quote:
Swinette said:
I think im going to mix 33/33/33 Coco coir, BRF, and verm. just 100% coir
After my grain jars have colonized im going to introduce them into the tub with that mixture of bulk
Fixed it for ya

Literally said the same thing and he kept saying what his intentions were on doing it that way
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) *DELETED* [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) [Re: Swinette] 1
#26452294 - 01/25/20 05:36 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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I use all my spare brf for agar.
Brf lc is also nice
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) [Re: mushboy]
#26452296 - 01/25/20 05:36 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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"BRF LC"
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Re: Can 50/50 BRF and Verm be bulk substrate in mono? (moved) [Re: Swinette]
#26452530 - 01/25/20 08:04 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Swinette said: sorry new here! was trying to find a use for my brf. I am taking your guys advice, just 100% coco coir
Don't apologize! Just coir baby
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