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My first grow!
#26450612 - 01/24/20 07:16 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Hi,
I'm welcoming myself to this forum with a post and a first step into the mushroom world!
I'm about to embark on my first attempt at growing psilocybin mushrooms. I've done a good bit of research and have opted for a grow kit for my first attempt, I hear combining your own ingredients from scratch is better but that will be my second attempt, for now I'm testing the kit. I've opted for a grow box and psilocybin cubensis spore syringes from cylocybe.com, easy right?
I don't want to desrespect the process and potentially make an avoidable mistake and discourage myself from the beginning, so any useful tips would be very helpful! Is there anything that I should keep in mind that I might not get from the standard instruction guide? I'm sure seasoned growers have a lit to say.
I'm excited to embark on this journey and plan on being a part of this community for a long time
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26450818 - 01/24/20 09:06 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Not sure you're going to get many (positive) responses on the grow kit.
We also won't know what the "standard instruction guide" from a random, non-Shroomery sponsor might instruct.
Cross your fingers, take any tidbits you can learn, ask specific questions, and start researching for your next awesome grow.
Good luck and have fun (at least)!
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
#26450832 - 01/24/20 09:19 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Good luck have fun.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26451071 - 01/25/20 01:15 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Just follow whatever tek you will be using. Don’t deviate or try anything special lol I started my first grow about a week ago. Followed the pf tek to the letter and have 12 jars colonizing nicely. Good luck!
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Thanks for the quick responses guys!
I'm aware the grow kit isn't the popular choice and I will definitely be doing my own grow next which I'm excited about. Since this is completely new to me I'm using the kit as a baseline experience to draw from before I get crafting.
So here's a specific question (Maylink)...
How do I know when to pick the mushrooms? I know there's a fine line between a ripe mushroom and one that is starting to spore, any signs to look out for on a first attempt?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26451225 - 01/25/20 05:34 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Best time to harvest is right when the veil breaks before they drop there spores (secrete black stuff all over)
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Agree with this.
Harvest right after the veil breaks and as they start to open up. Before spores drop, since they’ll mess with your next flush and don’t taste very pleasant.
At least you’ll have the opportunity to compare your kit to what you end up creating next, and you’ll learn a lot no matter what.
Growing mushrooms in any way is absolutely wonderful.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
#26451794 - 01/25/20 12:36 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Oh and don’t hesitate to post pics and ask questions (even with the grow kit).
The Shroomery is always here to help!
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26451817 - 01/25/20 12:47 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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So I love to go on about grow Kits, So I have decided to read the Growing Instructions from Cylocybe for fun. Below are quotes from their website. "Detailed: 1. Get organised Choose a space to use as your 'lab' - An ideal room to use will be draft-free, such as a small cupboard. Kitchens and bathrooms are generally not suitable because of the increased risk of mould. Take everything you will need into your lab at this point, you want to keep air currents to an absolute minimum - close the door and keep it closed until you are finished! - to lower the odds of contaminant spores getting into the MycoBox." (I worry about Mould too) "Never wipe a needle with an alcohol wipe - this will only sanitise it. It's best flame sterilising for proper sterilisation." (Seems like spell check isn't a thing.) If you don't care enough about grammar and spelling, how clean are your kits?
"Regarding heat, many species love very warm climates during colonisation but it can be a balancing act because so do bacteria!.. If your mycelium is going strong, it can outrun many types of bacteria and you will never know they were even present." This shit doesn't even make sense. Incomplete sentence and WTF does outrun many types of bacteria mean?
"If you are determined to have a warmer environment for faster colonisation times, we strongly advise against the use of heat mats as they can dry out the bottom of the substrate and stall colonisation. It's a far better idea to store your substrates somewhere with more balanced heat like a warm cupboard above a fridge or near the water boiler.." I actually agree with this statement. Just saying...
At this point in the instructions I am losing my shit, people.... Don't waste your money..... STAGE 3: PREPARING THE HUMIDITY TENT We will now set up the chamber for growing your mushrooms.
For this stage, you will need: 1 x Bag of perlite to provide humidity (supplied) 1 x Humidity tent for fruiting your mushrooms in (supplied) Summary: Place your perlite in a strainer and rinse under the tap until soaking. Shake off some of the excess water and pour into the humidity tent.
Detailed: 1. The first step is to rinse the perlite to get rid of all the excess dust. Please wear a face mask or cover your mouth and nose in some way when working with perlite. Get yourself a sieve or strainer (of course with holes smaller than the size of the perlite) and empty the perlite into it. Rinse under a running tap until you can see all of the dust is gone and that the perlite is fully soaked, turn the tap off and shake off some of the excess water but make sure you don't remove too much.
2. Pour the damp perlite into your humidity tent - this will create the humid environment mushrooms love.
that is all I can handle.. I can't read anymore
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26451941 - 01/25/20 01:53 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Sorry but I don’t see how posting the kit’s instructions (which the OP already has) and inserting a few of your random comments (which you actually agree with twice and then say “don’t waste your money”) actually helps the OP.
It’s more than common knowledge that kits are discouraged, but they have explained the situation and how they will be building their own grow the second time around.
If the kit is already purchased, what’s the harm in trying it out? Can we try to be encouraging to someone interested in cultivation instead of scaring them away from this beautiful hobby?
Thinking about what you post BEFORE you post should be more of a common practice around here (also for you Backbone with your continuous random ass nonsense comments).
We are trying to cultivate mushrooms here, people!
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
#26452898 - 01/26/20 03:13 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Thanks Sockadin for your help but like Maylink said, I'm aware of the general opinion of grow kits, and I'm only using this first grow as an experience since I have no prior knowledge of growing to draw from.
So back to the facts, harvest after the veil breaks right before the mushrooms begin to spore.
A couple more question...
Is the whole mushroom edible? And Once I have harvested my mushrooms, I believe keeping a spore print to inoculate my next grow is the best practice. Do I have to seperate spores from mushroom, or can I place the whole mushroom in the box to begin inoculating?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26452900 - 01/26/20 03:21 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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The whole mushroom is edible, cap and stem. To make a spore print you remove the cap from the stem and place it on a piece of foil in SAB for at least 24hrs. Then I suggest to take those spores to agar, agar to grain and grain to bulk. There's plenty of awesome teks on this site just find one and follow it to the letter. Most of all good luck.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
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Maylink said: Sorry but I don’t see how posting the kit’s instructions (which the OP already has) and inserting a few of your random comments (which you actually agree with twice and then say “don’t waste your money”) actually helps the OP.
It’s more than common knowledge that kits are discouraged, but they have explained the situation and how they will be building their own grow the second time around.
If the kit is already purchased, what’s the harm in trying it out? Can we try to be encouraging to someone interested in cultivation instead of scaring them away from this beautiful hobby?
Thinking about what you post BEFORE you post should be more of a common practice around here (also for you Backbone with your continuous random ass nonsense comments).
We are trying to cultivate mushrooms here, people!
You are correct, my post had nothing to do with the OP questions and was not helpful. At the time I thought it would be funny to see what the new breed of Kit Makers was up to. And this thread was probably not the best place to post that.
Oh and notice the sticky in my sig? It is worth a read, I wrote it 5 years ago...
Also remember that there are moderators already in position for policing content and behavior and you are not one of them.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Sockadin]
#26453561 - 01/26/20 01:28 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Very good! So pick just after the veil breaks and its all edible.
I've read conflicting instructions on how many times to air out and water a day. What's the general concensus here, am I right in thinking 3 times a day is appropriate?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26453597 - 01/26/20 01:49 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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I’d say misting 2-3x day depending on if the surface conditions look like they need it. It seems like there is a tendency to overwater, especially when I was starting out.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Sockadin]
#26453602 - 01/26/20 01:54 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
Sockadin said:
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Maylink said: Sorry but I don’t see how posting the kit’s instructions (which the OP already has) and inserting a few of your random comments (which you actually agree with twice and then say “don’t waste your money”) actually helps the OP.
It’s more than common knowledge that kits are discouraged, but they have explained the situation and how they will be building their own grow the second time around.
If the kit is already purchased, what’s the harm in trying it out? Can we try to be encouraging to someone interested in cultivation instead of scaring them away from this beautiful hobby?
Thinking about what you post BEFORE you post should be more of a common practice around here (also for you Backbone with your continuous random ass nonsense comments).
We are trying to cultivate mushrooms here, people!
You are correct, my post had nothing to do with the OP questions and was not helpful. At the time I thought it would be funny to see what the new breed of Kit Makers was up to. And this thread was probably not the best place to post that.
Oh and notice the sticky in my sig? It is worth a read, I wrote it 5 years ago...
Also remember that there are moderators already in position for policing content and behavior and you are not one of them.
Not trying to moderate, just want to provide helpful information instead of discouraging the OP (which I too often see in similar “first time” or “grow kit” posts).
I do agree that some kit makers are providing some questionable information. Thanks for your input and hard work on your write up!
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
#26453749 - 01/26/20 03:17 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Maylink said: I’d say misting 2-3x day depending on if the surface conditions look like they need it. It seems like there is a tendency to overwater, especially when I was starting out.
So I'm looking to keep damp more than soggy?
A question regarding the light process. When flowering, is it ok to leave in a room but out of direct sunlight, as in let the natural day light cycle provide, or should I stick to a pre determined light cycle?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26453825 - 01/26/20 04:16 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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definitely not soggy. Look for a glistening surface. Is this a PF style TEK? Or a shoebox/mono?
I use a 12/12 cycle with a grow light since I already had one. And it’s not very sunny where I am. So I’m not sure, but I remember reading in other posts that indirect sunlight is fine. Try researching what works with the method you’re using.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
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Indirect sunlight should be fine, I leave mine by a window and they’ve been fine.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: A.k.a]
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This is the one I'm going to be doing, Maylink. Its not sunny here either but I have a large window which provides a lot of natural light, I will place it near enough where it won't receive any direct sun (not that we get much here).
A.K.A those look great, is that a cake?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26454899 - 01/27/20 10:15 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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The ones in my signature??
They’re all coir shoeboxes with wbs.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Sockadin]
#26455022 - 01/27/20 11:45 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Sockadin said: "Never wipe a needle with an alcohol wipe - this will only sanitise it. It's best flame sterilising for proper sterilisation." (Seems like spell check isn't a thing.) If you don't care enough about grammar and spelling, how clean are your kits?
Well, it's a good job we don't have dyslexia or else we'd be quite crushed by that statement and insinuation.
Plus, we tend not to use American English spelling for our words as we are Scottish 
Thanks!
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Re: My first grow! [Re: A.k.a]
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A.k.a said: The ones in my signature??
They’re all coir shoeboxes with wbs.
They look great! How long did the process take from inoculation?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26455283 - 01/27/20 02:06 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Thanks man.
The first one was my very first grow and went really fast, got lucky with ms I guess. From inoculation to harvest under four weeks. I just remember trippin out when I did the math and I had harvested shrooms something like 32 days from when I ordered the syringes.
The PE took prob like 6-7 weeks maybe more.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26455371 - 01/27/20 02:53 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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The indirect sunlight should work fine.
Don’t forget to keep us posted on your grow
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
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This is all brilliant folks and it's got me even more excited to know I have experienced opinions to draw from, I'm away for a week very soon so will start the grow as soon as I return. I will be taking regular pictures to show my progress and hopefully get your opinions on how well I'm doing.
How do you guys store your mushrooms? I'm thinking from a micro dosing perspective, it's best to keep the whole mushroom preserved until it's time to consume, I read somewhere that for accurate microdosing to grind up the mushroom and weigh it evenly, but surely grinding and breaking down the mushroom too early will cause it to lose its potency quickly if not consumed soon enough. What are your views?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
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I’ve been microdosing .2g daily (5 on/2 off) for the past 4 months. Usually grind up every two weeks and make capsules. Store dried fruits and powder with a desiccant packet.
Glad to hear you’re picking up a MD regimen, it’s worked wonders for me and everyone I know who’s doing it.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
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Your first step is to dry your mushrooms using a dehydrator, this is a must! Your storage container should be dark, room temperature and airtight. Desiccant packs are normally used to absorb an additional moisture. I vacuum seal and store with a few desiccant packs usually. Making tea(Lemon Tek) and freezing is a way to preserve almost indefinitely. I've also dried and stored immediately in the freezer for long term and haven't noticed any potency loss or ill effects. The most important step is drying as quickly as possible to reduce potency loss.
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Naturalelixir said: Your first step is to dry your mushrooms using a dehydrator, this is a must! Your storage container should be dark, room temperature and airtight. Desiccant packs are normally used to absorb an additional moisture. I vacuum seal and store with a few desiccant packs usually. Making tea(Lemon Tek) and freezing is a way to preserve almost indefinitely. I've also dried and stored immediately in the freezer for long term and haven't noticed any potency loss or ill effects. The most important step is drying as quickly as possible to reduce potency loss.
Can i dry the mushrooms in the oven on very low heat (or a recommended heat setting)?
I know there are varying factors to consider when growing which produce different results, how many grams can I expect to yeild from the kit I'm going to be using (see picture above) considering things go well? And how many grams do you guys usually produce?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
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Best to obtain a food dehydrator. Not sure about oven. Good deals on OfferUp/FB marketplace.
Nearly impossible to predict what yield to expect from your grow kit or any other method. Way too many variables dependent on methods/conditions/etc.
Just give it your best shot, be open to whatever happens, and learn, learn, learn!
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
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Maylink said: Best to obtain a food dehydrator. Not sure about oven. Good deals on OfferUp/FB marketplace.
Nearly impossible to predict what yield to expect from your grow kit or any other method. Way too many variables dependent on methods/conditions/etc.
Just give it your best shot, be open to whatever happens, and learn, learn, learn!
Thought so, following the instructions and applying common sense, hopefully I'll get a good yeild.
I've just purchased Stamets's GGMM book for some insight, I hear it's a little dated but I'm sure it's not far off.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
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I'm reading the GGMM book, very good read!
How do you guys keep the process sterile? I'm sure techniques differ, but I'd like to get opinions on location (room/kitchen/bath room) and thoroughness. I'd hate to make a rookie mistake!
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
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Mavaron said: I'm reading the GGMM book, very good read!
How do you guys keep the process sterile? I'm sure techniques differ, but I'd like to get opinions on location (room/kitchen/bath room) and thoroughness. I'd hate to make a rookie mistake!
Spray bottles with 70% ISO and 10% Bleach solution works for me. Whatever room is the cleanest, I use kitchen and room.
When in doubt, spray it down! Tubs, liner, counters, tools, working area, etc. And SAB for transfers, innocs, agar work. Better than possible contams.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
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Ok so I have inoculated the kits a few hours ago, I've stored them in a plastic ziplock bag,in a box above the fridge where it's nice and warm.
Does it need any air yet or is that for the fruiting process?
Is it a good idea for the kits to colonise in a warm box in the dark?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
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Light is good the whole time but it’s not super important until there’s pins.
A warm spot is good for now but just not over like 77
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Re: My first grow! [Re: A.k.a]
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A.k.a said: Light is good the whole time but it’s not super important until there’s pins.
A warm spot is good for now but just not over like 77
Thank you for getting back to me... so a bit of light whilst colonising is good.
And keep nice and warm.
What about ventilation, does it need any air yet or is it safe in a sealed box/bag?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
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Either ways fine. If you want to do a colonization period then it doesn’t need much air, but a lot of people just go straight to fruiting conditions.
What’s the kit say to do?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: A.k.a]
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"4. Colonisation
Now it's time to leave the MycoBox in a safe place to fully colonise with mycelium. We have included a zipper bag which will hold the colonising MycoBox and keep it as clean as possible for the next stages. Remember not to seal the bag fully to allow the growing mycelium to breathe! It's recommended to leave the MycoBox to colonise in a room with indirect sunlight or light from a flourescent bulb.. although a dark cupboard won't do any harm. Just keep it out of direct sunlight and it will be fine!"
This is what the website instructions say, but which is it, zip lock bag or allow it to breath? And if so, do I open the box? In many videos I've seen the colonisation is occuring in a sealed grow bag, so no ventilation. I'm confused.
And I don't see the point of going through the sterile process to then leave the box exposed to contamination from air.
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Just do like it says put it in the bag but don’t close it all the way.
Once the spawn is totally colonized it doesn’t need sterile conditons anymore.
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After colonisation, the instructions say to dunk the cake in water for 24 hours... is this common practice?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26483278 - 02/13/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes
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Re: My first grow! [Re: fahtster]
#26484652 - 02/14/20 03:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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fahtster said: Yes
I'm assuming it's a good idea to boil the water and let it cool before dunking?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26484657 - 02/14/20 04:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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No need, when you open your spawn at full colonization you're no longer working in sterile conditions anyhow.
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PMBastian said: No need, when you open your spawn at full colonization you're no longer working in sterile conditions anyhow.
Ahh ok, so the mycelium has already taken hold and isn't at risk of contamination.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26489398 - 02/17/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, looking good so far, these pics are a couple of days old so there's a little more progress. The pots will definitely be ready to fruit sooner than the box.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26492788 - 02/19/20 03:16 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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What lighting do you guys use for fruiting? I read that blue LED light is good, any opinions?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26492796 - 02/19/20 03:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Allegedly some types of shrooms prefer some light wavelengths more than others but it is mostly hearsay - basically everyone agrees that "white blue" light that closely resembles ambient (not direct sunlight) outside light is the best and its presence helps.
However, shrooms, are not plants so they don't need light to grow but it still helps - it serves mostly as a guide (grow towards general light direction) and clock (12h light/ 12h dark cycle).
What you want is a light (LED) that has the colour temperature ranging from 5500K to 6500K. You should be able to buy lightbulbs and LED strips with this colour temperature easily (amazon, ebay, some local shops).
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This is really helpful, thank you! My grow will be placed in a well lit room (natural lighting), I was wondering if providing my own lighting set up would be better.
The light you you mentioned "LED 5500K-6500K", would that be pointed directly at the mushrooms?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26493130 - 02/19/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Have a read here : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14871014/page/1 (a bit old but almost everything there is still valid).
Basically it does not have to be direct but it can't hurt. Some people here who run a lot of boxes at the same time have created quite elaborate lighting setups with multiple levels etc. Majority just have a light or two on one side or the top and keep boxes stacked so the light is not direct.
edit : RR here says that side lighting is superior over top : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14525346 (but I reckon this is more important for grow spaces that are not exposed to ambient/window lighting; I think most amateurs just keep boxes on a shelf on the floor in some kind of room with a window; so they don't sit in darkness anyway).
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Ok, so it's a sad night for Mavaron, I came home from work to find that my large grow is showing a lot of sudden contamination, this wasn't present this morning and seems to have appeared very rapidly. Everything looked fine until now and I'm not sure where I went wrong or how I could have avoided this, the only thing I can think of is the change in temperature, I had a new boiler fitted yesterday and so had to move the boxes around a couple of times, as the boiler room is where they were sitting since day one. The other 3 smaller pots are looking good and showing no sign of contamination. So let's break things down a little.
1. The box and three pots have shown a little condensation on the inside (looks like they're sweating) for a few days now, maybe a little visible in the pictures above. Is this normal, or is it a sign that something needs to change?
2. I've kept them at 26 degrees up until the last couple of days where the temperature changed due to the boiler circumstances, moving them around to different spots meant the temperature fluctuated between 20 to 24. I came home today to find that the boiler room wasn't as warm as I'd hoped, the temperature was 19 degrees. Has this contributed to the contamination? The other three pots aren't showing any signs of green, so I'm not sure if this is the cause.
3. I was very sterile in the inoculation process and took all necessary precausions, shower, gloves, mask, sterile surface, alcohol wipes, sterilisied syringe etc. The mycelium is looking good and advancing well, and the green mold isn't growing on the mycelium, it's appeared suddenly on the sides. Does this mean the kit was compromised before I even started?
4. Is there any way that I'm wrong and the box is still salvagable, or is that it for that particular one?
Any answers to these questions would be very helpful folks, it's a sad night for me but make no mistake, I'm a determined ape and this is only a hiccup in the great journey.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26498662 - 02/22/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Any comments on the above, folks?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26498736 - 02/22/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks like aspergillus, penicilium, or some other green mold. It will likely spread quickly in the next few days.
Could be an issue with how the grain/spawn was prepped? Was it pre-sterilized as part of a grow kit? Could have happened then, or when you inoculated? I'm not familiar with that box style.
And the drop in temps wouldn't be the cause, bacteria and mold favor warmer temps.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
#26498741 - 02/22/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
#26498759 - 02/22/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The kit comes pre sterilised, but I'm thinking maybe thia one wasn't 100%. I was thorough whilst inoculating and the mold seems to be seperate to the mycelium, which I think indocates that it wasn't my doing. The other kits are still good so I'm thinking it's an isolated incident.
I've followed the PF method and sterilised a couple of my own jars today, I'm naking up for the loss
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26498772 - 02/22/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, it was probably something that got in when they kit maker was sterilizing. That's why grow kits are iffy, hard to know what methods were used.
Great to hear you're doing it on your own, I'm sure you'll have success that way
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26499358 - 02/23/20 02:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kits are pretty notorious for having a high contam rate. It looks like you were on the right track though. Keep reading through posts here incessantly. it really helped me when I started out. Try and find a PC as well!
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You mean a pressure cooker?
I've had a terribly hectic day yesterday and fear that I may have rushed the new jars, the brown rice I grinded wasn't fully ground to flour, during sterilisation some of the rice grains cooked and are now white. Nontheless I inoculated and will wait for the results.
I built my own incubation chamber using an aquarium heater and 2 plastic containers, I want to maintain a steady temperature this time.
Edited by Mavaron (02/23/20 04:47 AM)
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
#26499399 - 02/23/20 04:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think that was the issue, not well sterilised. I can only learn and improve so moving forward I'm confident that I can do it myself from scratch.
Question.
So far I'm using PF Tek, but what other methods do you recommend for psilocybin growing, has anyone found another technique to be more effective?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26499964 - 02/23/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do some research on the incubator before you decide if you really want to build/use it. Most deem them unnecessary and cause more issues than good.
A friend gifted me theirs once so I tried it, and found it to get the grains wetter than I liked. So I scrapped it. Never had a problem without it.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26499968 - 02/23/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm a big fan of the Shoebox TEKs. Nice way to learn.
Here's a list of a ton of TEKs: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
#26500265 - 02/23/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think most methods are more effective than pf tek if you’ve got a pressure cooker. I only did a few brf cakes but spawning to bulk was much better ime.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: A.k.a]
#26500880 - 02/24/20 03:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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BRF is a good start point, but I think I'm ready to try the WBS tek next.
Maylink, regarding the incubation chamber, I have the temperature floating at 26 degrees, and the jars are in a dry container, which is floating in a water container, so there's no moisture in the inner container. Where do you leave your spawn and at what temp?
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Mavaron]
#26501405 - 02/24/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mavaron said: BRF is a good start point, but I think I'm ready to try the WBS tek next.
Maylink, regarding the incubation chamber, I have the temperature floating at 26 degrees, and the jars are in a dry container, which is floating in a water container, so there's no moisture in the inner container. Where do you leave your spawn and at what temp?
I've been leaving jars in a corner of my grow room (regulated with a camping heater) around 70-80 degrees in a tub or box, covered with a clean cotton sheet. Previously, I've even left them in a box in my bedroom at whatever temp the house is at with success.
You could try both at the same time and see which you like better, but I didn't find the incubator to be faster or any better when I compared.
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Re: My first grow! [Re: Maylink]
#26501562 - 02/24/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's deffo no harm in trying that. 2 days in the heated container now and 2 of the pots have advanced a good bit, 1 is taking its time a bit, maybe I didn't inject as much spores as the other 2.
My 2 new jars are showing no sign of growth yet, it's a little early so I'm not worried.
So far I have the 3 original pots which are Amazonian, the 2 new jars which are Mexican Dutch King (the company threw this strain in the bag as a 'thank you', which is a good thing since they fucked up sterilising the bigger kit), I've purchased another syringe of Golden Teacher because, I will use it next week when I prepare a few more jars.
Edited by Mavaron (02/25/20 07:25 AM)
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