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    #26449988 - 01/24/20 01:02 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: Swinette]
    #26450043 - 01/24/20 01:36 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

I usually smoke some weed or watch some encouraging psychedelic youtube videos and then delve in when feeling most at ease. Just grind the shrooms up into fine powder and do a lemon tek with it, it will be over in seconds when you drink the whole thing in 1 go.


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram *DELETED* [Re: Blazer420]
    #26450064 - 01/24/20 01:46 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: Swinette]
    #26450118 - 01/24/20 02:10 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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good idea.  Any thoughts on maybe having a beer or two?



Some people enjoy alcohol with shrooms. For me, alcohol and shrooms, even when I take shroom tea, just fucks up my stomach too much for the experience to enjoyable for the first few hours, and once the dose kicks in I don't really notice the alcohol at all. I usually use cannabis during the comeup and comedown because it helps me with anxiety.


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: Swinette] * 1
    #26450140 - 01/24/20 02:22 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

Some anxiety is normal for me during the come up specifically :shrug: .

I've been working with mushrooms and psychedelics for over 10 years now and I still get some anxiety and other unpleasant feels/emotions during the come up with mushrooms...

...just a part of it all.

The first 90 to 120 minutes of a trip isn't the most comfortable of times for me, even after years and many trips this aspect hasn't changed. I've learned to deal with it and just let it pass though.



A beer or two before dosing to take the edge off a bit and calm the nerves isn't a bad idea....it's not something I'd do, but if that's something you want to try and if it helps you transition into the trip easier then go for it :shrug: .

Taking a hot soaking bath or shower while coming up is another thing that can help make one feel more at ease & relaxed.



but in general...having some anxiety or uneasy feels during the come up and first phase of the trip is pretty normal for me. For me it's not really anxiety about anything in particular, it's just what ever is going on pharmacological-ly/neurologically during the come up with mushrooms induces/triggers some anxiety within me. It all fades away for me, though, once I'm past the come up/once the trip has settled (about 2 hours after dosing)




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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: Swinette]
    #26450151 - 01/24/20 02:36 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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not sure why.. I am having anxiety, i have it scaled out, I am just trying to dip my feet in while i learn more about mushrooms.  Any advice?




That’s your problem right there - underdosing. Anxiety is normal during the come-up, but if you never take enough to “come up” and into a trip, then anxiety is all you get🤷🏻‍♂️


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26450180 - 01/24/20 03:02 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

Listen to Terence. Don’t trip of the anxiety is too strong. Sometimes we just feel compelled to trip and that’s the time to do it.

Even with rocky beginnings most trips move into the enlightening/gnosis phase at some point.


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: CountHTML]
    #26450232 - 01/24/20 03:37 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

I get more anxiety if I take small one gram doses. 2.5+ is smoother for me.


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: SFS96]
    #26450285 - 01/24/20 04:13 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

I agree that 1gram is too low for average shrooms to produce the average effect. But it’s too high for a micro dose, I end up feeling jittery and weird on a gram.

Microdose is good at less than a gram. But to get any of the classical effects, 2g+ normal shrooms. It’s a great tester dose for new batches of shrooms, and allows inexperienced people to get the idea of what tripping is without totally losing the script.

Like others have said, I also find 1gram is going to be anxious thoughts and feelings mixed with strange bodily sensations.

Could I talk you into at least 1.75 grams and most of all forget the idea of toe dipping your way into a trip?

openmind has good advice.


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: Swinette] * 1
    #26451082 - 01/25/20 01:48 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

Lots of good advice for you here from the team at the shroomery; I’ll just add my two pence worth for your perusal :-)

I’ve been trying to think back to my first psychedelic experiences, which happened almost 35 years ago. My first trip was on LSD, and I didn’t have nerves as such, at least not the common anxiety we all experience. My first mushroom trip was after a few LSD trips, so I was caught by surprise by the intense and scary come up. I believe I have had anxiety AFTER this first mushroom experience. And it has never gone away.

I’ve deliberated a lot on the anxiety aspects; they do keep me in check, as normally when I find something I enjoy, I then “do it to death”! No the anxiety really helps maintain the respect, in my book. But the anxiety springs from a few factors: you remember the bad parts of previous trips and they never go away; during the come up, your mind and body are being changed by the psilocin. Parts of your brain are being closed down, notably the DMN which is responsible for your sense of self, and your defence mechanisms. Your ego doesn’t enjoy this, and fights back, tries to clutch onto the last realms of lucidity / normality.

As said above though, if you have taken a high enough dose (i’d Say at least 2.5g dry cubensis) you will eventually “break through” into the psychedelic headspace. You almost feel like a weight has lifted from your mind, that the anxiety is over, and that everything, just everything, is going to be alright. And from this point on, your experience will bring you back again and again, even with the anxiety. If you don’t dose high enough, you will not get these wonderful aspects of the trip, only the shitty come up anxious bits.

If you’re concerned about dosing higher, there are things you can do to alleviate some of the anxiety: use a trip sitter whom you really trust, someone who will not talk to you, but will be available if you feel you need support. I was recommended to use lemon balm tea to reduce / remove the come up anxiety. Take the lemon balm tea at the same time or slightly before the mushroom tea, and you’l be knocked out and calmed down for about an hour, worst part of any trip. I tried it but it dulled the first part of the trip completely, so I wouldn’t use it again: I prefer to get the full mushroom experience.

Whatever you choose to do, good luck and take care. Oh and come back when you’re done and leave a trip report 👍🏻

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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: Swinette]
    #26451112 - 01/25/20 02:32 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

Maybe try a microdose first? Like half a gram? Listening to relaxing music always help me.


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26451156 - 01/25/20 04:08 AM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Anxiety, especially when starting out, is normal and not detrimental usually. What really helped me to overcome it and do my first trip was reading up as much as possible on the experience. I cannot recommend enough listening to the talks by Terence McKenna, the book "How to change your mind" by Michael Pollan, or lectures by Alan Watts. I was really glad I did that and it helped me tremendously in preparing, navigating the actual experience and understanding it afterwards.
For example, pre-trip anxiety can be interpreted as your own Ego creating horror stories of what might go wrong, because it tries everything to stay in control, up to the point of making you anxious about taking ego-dissolving substances.

As others said, 1g is maybe too borderline and confusing, because one is neither tripping nor sober. I can recommend 2g, that's what I did for my first trip. And I prefer not to take any other drugs like alcohol or weed at that time, so you can fully understand the experience and get acquainted to it.
Taking a microdose of ~0.2g to start out can also be a good idea, as it gives you a small idea of the kind of feelings you can expect, and will take the edge off of the anxiety.

A trip sitter that stays with you might be an option. Though, many people prefer tripping solo, myself included.


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: sporecap] * 1
    #26451289 - 01/25/20 06:26 AM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Damn this is why I love this forum - all of you have given this guy every piece of advice that I cannot even say anything more than what has already been said.

Other then: dont be scared, they won't kill you. 2.5g would be my suggested dose for you, your next time around! Be safe and play within the complex mind we've been gifted with!


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26451382 - 01/25/20 07:37 AM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Sometimes 1g gives me worse anxiety than 6grams. Have you tried taking a larger amount?


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: mushboy]
    #26451414 - 01/25/20 08:14 AM (4 years, 22 days ago)

I do 1 g alot. It is more of a wonder WTF is going to happen. How am i going to feel. The other day i took 1g and had a moment where i had to say "love" out loud because how horrible this feeling i got was. with the 1g it's a power struggle, 2g it's a ride and your shotgun.


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Re: Anxiety, even around doing 1 gram [Re: HappyHigh]
    #26451417 - 01/25/20 08:20 AM (4 years, 22 days ago)

I don’t know if this may help people, but I’m going to put it out there anyway!

For me, one of the worst feelings in the world (yes, even worse than normal reality!), is when your mushrooms are weak and you don’t “break on through to the other side”. You’re not normal, you feel “off”, but neither are you tripping. You just want to be able to see straight and go to damned bed!

So I never dose less than 3g dry cubensis!

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