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Have you tried Golden Teachers before?
#26448032 - 01/23/20 11:36 AM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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If so, I would love to hear your experiences with them and if you have tried other strains or species, compare Golden Teachers to them.
Whats the general effects? Whats the overall feel of Golden Teachers? Do you like them or do you prefer other strains?
Thanks for any info u can provide.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26448040 - 01/23/20 11:43 AM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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cube is a cube imo
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26448042 - 01/23/20 11:44 AM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: If so, I would love to hear your experiences with them and if you have tried other strains or species, compare Golden Teachers to them.
Whats the general effects? Whats the overall feel of Golden Teachers? Do you like them or do you prefer other strains?
Thanks for any info u can provide.
- LC
Yes I like them. And they are really easy to grow.
I’ve tried Liberty Caps, Ecuador, B+, and Golden Teachers. Got some Mazatapec growing.....
GTs are quite unique compared to the others I’ve tried; CEVs are really good, and take me to huge indoor cavernous spaces, and / or cathedral like indoor spaces. I also get clockwork machinery and gears. But my favourite is I get millions of goblins, always moving towards me, but always with me. I do get big real scary goblins too! The come up can be quite intense, and on 5g doses, very often when I think the peak has maxed intensity can really ramp up so you can’t get your breath, reality rips and tears in front of your eyes, the fractal like OEVs increase exponentially, out to infinity. But when everything’s settled, the GT peak is just awesome. The headspace is so chilled. Fires in the back garden are magical. In fact, I often see fairies in the sky when I’m outside by the fire.
I would recommend them to anyone; though I am really looking forward to a less intense, more spiritual trip from Mazatapecs ❤️
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: DJ Ed]
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Great details DJ ED. Thanks for sharing
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#26449055 - 01/23/20 09:45 PM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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I’m of the opinion that differences are greater between batches than between strains. With that, I will say that the batch of golden teachers I was working through were very “muddy” and emotional and this was verified by friends. Little to no visuals. First level 5 was on these and I melted into the couch and dissolved, but no real visuals other than some abstract “wormholes” opening up around me.
Most visual batch I’ve ever had was some B+ grown with love and care. Very gentle batch. The GTs were a bit rougher.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: CountHTML] 2
#26449176 - 01/24/20 12:00 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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While I do mostly think that a cube is a cube, and as HTML said vary more between batches than strains, I have had different experiences depending on the strain. 2 generations of MS golden teachers blew my fucking socks off. I remember one trip I had watching the matrix on 4g of golden teachers, I felt like I was having epiphany after fucking epiphany. Shit was great.
The B+ MS from the same vendor were total shit and barely did anything on an 8th, but maybe the syringe just had bad genes. It's hard to really tell with how little we can feasibly test ourselves or even among the people we might share with due to genes or environmental effects or even just trips being wildly different from eachother.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: CountHTML] 1
#26449196 - 01/24/20 12:53 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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CountHTML said: I’m of the opinion that differences are greater between batches than between strains. With that, I will say that the batch of golden teachers I was working through were very “muddy” and emotional and this was verified by friends. Little to no visuals. First level 5 was on these and I melted into the couch and dissolved, but no real visuals other than some abstract “wormholes” opening up around me.
Most visual batch I’ve ever had was some B+ grown with love and care. Very gentle batch. The GTs were a bit rougher.
Interesting.. I always get visuals on every single strain/cube I've tried 1.5g+ doses although mental illness runs in the family so I need to be very careful about not going to a crazy high dose.
Meditation before hand pretty much eliminates bad trips even if processing bad stuff during trip.
Haven't tried GT but going to within the next month. Agree that shrooms made w love are always are more potent batch to batch comparison. Maybe a placebo but in my experience going full organic substrates always using filtered water makes for a better product.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: CountHTML]
#26449203 - 01/24/20 01:03 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Trippy! A strain with no visuals. How intriguing....
And yes, i agree, with MS grows, it does vary quite a bit. However, Ive noticed that if u continue to grow MS grows from any strain, u will notice specific trends in the effects.
And that "muddy" description. Do you mean it makes your mind muddy and its hard to think? Like is it a confusion-inducing strain?
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26449218 - 01/24/20 01:50 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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I find GT isn’t as visual as the corumba I like to grow. All my people that ate them also agreed. They are very enjoyable and euphoric but not very visual compared to corumba.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: SFS96] 1
#26449293 - 01/24/20 04:22 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Gt were amazing for me. They would come on gentle and have a more mellow experience in my experience. Of course dose depending.
I would end up eating a few fresh fruits and loved the body buzz, they really seemed to lessen my physical pain on low doses.
I used to mix 50/50 b+ and golden teachers into a tea for the nights we really wanted to trip hard.
While people say cube is a cube is a cube, i have noticed differences with different named fruits.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26449633 - 01/24/20 09:20 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Not really confusion but low resolution. Mushrooms rarely have the sharp clarity of something like acid, but the golden teachers I was working through sort of caused a flood of emotions that were difficult to tease apart. Crying seemed to occur even on microdoses (not me but friends lol).
They definitely seemed to bring about a sad sort of introspection but not in a bad trip sort of way. Felt like a release. While there were little CEVs, there was plenty of distortion of existing objects in environment/perception of time/space. The mushroom trip itself was qualitatively rather normal other than the noticeable lack of CEVs. Someone compared it to ketamine. Very dissociative over 3.5g.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: CountHTML] 1
#26449650 - 01/24/20 09:29 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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A lot of people say "a cube is a cube". I don't have enough experience with various varieties to assume either way.
With that being said, my GT's had a dark vibe to them. My one heavier trip on them (3.5g) had a very dark and brooding aura. In my closed eye visuals I saw a crown of thorns spiraling in a DNA helix shape while feeling an ominous presence. Then I saw a dark entity attached to my leg. I believe that entity was my dark struggles manifested. It was not a bad or scary trip. It just had a dark tone to it. So I'm not sure if that was the GT's or the set/setting playing a role.
Body load was high (as is always for me it seems) OEVs were slight (wall distortions/waves) but nothing more CEVs were pronounced and, as stated above, were of a more "dark" nature Slight afterglow the day after
I enjoyed my experience with them. I didn't have all that much as they were one of my first grows and I was throwing out bruised cakes thinking they were contaminated
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: Socrateshroom]
#26449746 - 01/24/20 10:44 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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sorry, when i said cube is cube what i ment is they are the same species. it would be like saying psilocybe cyanescens and then saying different strains of psilocybe cyanescens IE PNW vs UK. it is the same species and there isnt much reason to assume different strains. i dont think that is scientifically accurate but i dont know.
unless you are working with clones, then it is MS. and if it is MS there is no real consistency imo. every time you spawn with MS its gonna be different so since we are tlaking specifically about 'golden teachers' unless you have isolated and clones to agar, every grow will turn out slightly different because of MS.
so in my conclusion i find anecdotal reporting to be unreliable because you are in essence not talking about the same mushrooms. i dont think there is much evidence pointing to any differences between 'strains' although i could be wrong as i dont really know. i was just sharing my 2c and things ive heard over the years.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: Blabble40]
#26449900 - 01/24/20 12:22 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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This is so weird. The most visual trip I’ve ever had was from 3.5g of GTs. I remember staring into the fire, suddenly becoming aware of the fact that I’m controlling the motions of the flames, then “growing” the fire until it was all around me... I was a wizard for a night.
I expected people to say they’re visually awesome too, and got the opposite 🤷🏻♂️
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: Blabble40]
#26449922 - 01/24/20 12:30 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Scientifically they are all just cubes, varied genetics will lead to different manifestations of certain traits. The different varieties probably don't mean much in that regards (strains are what is produced by two spores mating, not the name given to the spore origin).
But there isn't much fun in that.
So I think the lore comes into play with the varieties, and so much of tripping is influenced by our mind, beliefs, whether that is placebo or psychosomatic it leads to a real experience. So the discussion is interesting and gives people a chance to share their experiences.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: feldman114] 1
#26449924 - 01/24/20 12:31 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Depends who grows them and their potency. The grower and the mushroom share a symbiotic relationship, my belief
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: Eclipse3130]
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Eclipse3130 said: The grower and the mushroom share a symbiotic relationship, my belief
I like that, makes the whole cultivation experience more meaningful. Personally I think the same is true when you talk about plants with gardening or animals as pets.
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Eclipse3130 said: Depends who grows them and their potency. The grower and the mushroom share a symbiotic relationship, my belief
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: Katz 206]
#26451090 - 01/25/20 02:00 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Katz 206 said: sorry, when i said cube is cube what i ment is they are the same species. it would be like saying psilocybe cyanescens and then saying different strains of psilocybe cyanescens IE PNW vs UK. it is the same species and there isnt much reason to assume different strains. i dont think that is scientifically accurate but i dont know.
unless you are working with clones, then it is MS. and if it is MS there is no real consistency imo. every time you spawn with MS its gonna be different so since we are tlaking specifically about 'golden teachers' unless you have isolated and clones to agar, every grow will turn out slightly different because of MS.
so in my conclusion i find anecdotal reporting to be unreliable because you are in essence not talking about the same mushrooms. i dont think there is much evidence pointing to any differences between 'strains' although i could be wrong as i dont really know. i was just sharing my 2c and things ive heard over the years.
Can it be said though, that when you grow from a clone, that the trip you will get will be characteristic of Golden Teacher? Or could you just say that your experience is specific to that clone of Golden Teacher. If say you were then to grow from another GT clone, then those experiences could quite possibly be different to the trips from the first clone.
Everything is variable, even from clones. With MS, every trip is unique. With clones, the trip is unique to that clone.
So yes I agree that with clones, you will get consistent potency, but I don’t think that then gives you data to say this grow is typical Golden Teacher.
So yes the anecdotal experiences people have reported are good eviendece, are reliable, and basically it’s the best we have with psychedelics.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26451466 - 01/25/20 09:04 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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How can anecdotal evidence be reliable? In this thread alone there is inconsistency in reported effects. If you could provide a link to some reliable information that says strains have distinct effects then I’d be interested to read that, but I doubt this is the case and have seen ANY evidence to point to that conclusion...
Basically I am of the idea that strain names mean absolutely nothing at all. And I bet money that if I gave you say some treasure cost or EQs and told you they were golden teachers you would not know any difference lol
Just cuz anecdotal evidence is the best we have doesn’t mean that evidence is reliable there are far too many variables.
Strain names are just that, names.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: Katz 206]
#26451475 - 01/25/20 09:10 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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I’m not thinking that clearly after a large one last night. I think what I was trying to convey was similar; there is so much variability, even within the same flush (MS), that how can anything be reliable.
So what I meant by the anecdotal evidence being reliable (wrong word!), was that it’s all we have. So if enough people share their experiences, maybe we get a sort of database of anecdotal effects for a particular strain.
There was a post on here recently where a moderator shared his journal of strain descriptions. Based on that, I’ve ordered some Mazatapec (couldn’t source Transkeis) - the anecdotal evidence says generally they provide a less intense but more mystical experience than say Golden Teacher.
Hope that’s cleared up what I meant to say!
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: Katz 206]
#26451477 - 01/25/20 09:11 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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In my experience, there is subjective but observable differences between strains. Take African Transkei for example. Theres definitely a unique "trip" to them compared to other strains Ive grown before. However, the fruits do look physically different than other cubes so its likely a mutant of some type and mutants tend to be unique anyway.
And i believe theres a similar "trend" of effects with Golden Teachers as well.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: DJ Ed] 1
#26451486 - 01/25/20 09:17 AM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Putting aside a cube is a cube, GTs seem to be more forgiving at high doses.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: Antigov]
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Antigov said: Putting aside a cube is a cube, GTs seem to be more forgiving at high doses.
When you say “forgiving”, what exactly do you mean? I’ve had 5g doses of GT, but I have always resisted, like my life depended on it! At times when the fractals are infinite, you have to squat down at the back door to get some cold fresh air, you try to tell your wife what you’re going through while her face is dissolving and the air in front of her literally tears and portions move! Then it starts to subside. I haven’t had 5g for 2 years, and am building up to 5g again with the intention of not fighting it (you live and learn!).
When you say forgiving, are you saying that 5g of other strains can be even more unsettling?
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: In my experience, there is subjective but observable differences between strains. Take African Transkei for example. Theres definitely a unique "trip" to them compared to other strains Ive grown before. However, the fruits do look physically different than other cubes so its likely a mutant of some type and mutants tend to be unique anyway.
And i believe theres a similar "trend" of effects with Golden Teachers as well.
you raise a good point with mutants, i am just stubborn i suppose lol. the lack of real concrete data and the amount of variables involved just scream out to me to disregard anecdotal evidence, except maybe my own lol.
i have also heard similar things about various strains DJ ed, but i always tended to disregard those but i am far from a psychonaunt and have limited experiences im sure when compared to some of the vets here.
that being said my own anecdotal evidence is this, i have grown out several different 'strains' specifically 'treasure coast, EQs, Ricans' All were via MS... When i first got into this, my goal was to have a visual experience, the whole reason i wanted to do this lol. so i have a buddy whom i would trip with, and every time i took them i always had OEV. nothing insane because i am overly cautious and tend to dose low, but i personally always have OEV distortion, my friend however has NEVER had any OEV on any dose form any batch ever, and that includes psilocybe cyanescens.
so just based on that, i feel there are too many variables to really source reliable information when it comes to anecdotes. its been a really long time since ive taken any cubes as now that i know how to find my local shrooms i ditched growing a decade ago lol.. but that being said id go as far to say i dont even think i can recall any difference between even cubes and cyans other then potency and amount needed to eat.
maybe i am unqualified to really speak on this since i dont have any experience with cloned strains and i think clones would be the first step in getting come consistent data.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: Katz 206]
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Yeah I suppose I tend to agree with you. But I would say this, Psilocybe Semilanceata (Liberty Cap) is definitely different to cubensis. The trips are much darker, and the OEVs are much stronger. In my experience.
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Re: Have you tried Golden Teachers before? [Re: DJ Ed]
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Antigov said: Putting aside a cube is a cube, GTs seem to be more forgiving at high doses.
When you say “forgiving”, what exactly do you mean? I’ve had 5g doses of GT, but I have always resisted, like my life depended on it! At times when the fractals are infinite, you have to squat down at the back door to get some cold fresh air, you try to tell your wife what you’re going through while her face is dissolving and the air in front of her literally tears and portions move! Then it starts to subside. I haven’t had 5g for 2 years, and am building up to 5g again with the intention of not fighting it (you live and learn!).
When you say forgiving, are you saying that 5g of other strains can be even more unsettling?
Cheers DJ Ed
I have never had a “bad trip” on high doses with GTs.
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