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First time - kit tubs ok?
    #26445392 - 01/21/20 11:00 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

Kit=gross sure. Microbiolgy research means I just don't care about $100 to get something a little more likely to work for something that is just another experiment likely to fail. I'm working in a non-lab environment for obvious reseaons so I expect this to fail due to contamination because I just am not willing to try that hard since my sterile technique methods don't work in a home setting, and I really want to gain an edge if this actually becomes the next big thing for depression/psychological drug treatments. Research needs to start before research is allowed if pot is an example.

Anyways,less than a month in suddenly I have a couple full grown shrooms. I still have water droplets on the side of my bins, but no obvious signs (that I understand) of bacterial contamination). Bins that have 2 very different (long laid down then vertical, vs almost stereotypical vertical) morphologies, have the least number of small round growths protruding. I thought these were the least likely to grow. Sorry about picture quality, but thoughts on likely success?

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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: GirlInShroom] * 1
    #26445412 - 01/21/20 11:21 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

hard to tell with the blue tint. Looks like its doing its thing. Why buy a kit? You can buy a tub at walmart for 7 bucks.


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: GirlInShroom] * 1
    #26445470 - 01/22/20 12:22 AM (4 years, 26 days ago)

The beauty of mushroom cultivation is that it IS quite possible to achieve sterile technique easily (and on the cheap) in a home setting with the right amount of care. If you already “expect” to fail, it’s likely that you will.

Also, research has already started with promising results. Gaining an edge may mean doing a bit more research yourself.

As far as you’re bins go, what are your conditions? RH? Temp? Surface moisture?
Fruit morphology varies greatly depending on variety, genetics, etc.

Perhaps if you can provide more info, folks can provide more answers. Otherwise, you’ll just have to wait and see.


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: GirlInShroom]
    #26445501 - 01/22/20 12:52 AM (4 years, 26 days ago)

First pics look good, the second set of pics looks a little too burned out with blue light. Best to take pictures with white light only.

Kits are frowned upon. However, if u bought a kit from a Shroomery Sponsor, then it aint so bad cause youre supporting the Shroomery indirectly.

Sounds like your grow is going well. Take some normal-lighting pics next time so we can see whats going on better.


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: Maylink] * 1
    #26446891 - 01/22/20 05:54 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Conditions are RH=25% Temp=25.5C Surface Moisture=water droplets on the sides of the bin, and keep getting more (but I don't have to measure the surface moisture content at the moment). Maybe the blue LEDs are too bright to be one 12h per day?

Today it's grown more, but no new growths. However the one lying down, suddenly has a lot of black on it, and where the media was fuzzy white. I suspect that bad? Not much smell though.

Is it worth waiting to see if more grow? I assume the ones in the photos are either ruined or ready to pick.





Let me know if there is more info I should provide? Sorry, these are still not very good pics.


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: Spirit-Crusher]
    #26446904 - 01/22/20 06:05 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

If I try again, it won't be a kit. I thought it would help simplify the process much more than I think it actually did.


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    #26446948 - 01/22/20 06:38 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

RH could be higher, 70%-90% seems to work for me.
Temp sounds good. 12 hr cycles with the blue LEDs are ok.

Looks like they are way ready for harvest. You want to pick right as the veil is opening, so they don't sporulate. Not bad, but the black are spores. Might mess with your next flush if you go for it? Maybe not worth it.

Kits are unpredictable, hard to control variables. Quite possible to get all the materials for under $100 and you'll learn a lot in the process.
Shroomery has all the info you'll need.

Good luck and have fun!


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: Maylink]
    #26447158 - 01/22/20 08:29 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

They need Oxygen.... That is all, fan that box out ASAP


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: Sockadin] * 1
    #26448983 - 01/23/20 08:47 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Oyxgen seems to be the answer in a few places on here. Sorry, I didn't know what to look for before, thanks! I increased air holes, refreshed the air in the bags, and recirculated the air in the room for a few hours, but gently.

I didn't get any good photos, but this is what it looked like after picking,  Stropharia Cubensis Cuban? After 24h in food dehydrator, but still some squishy bits. I guess I have to brush off the black spores after they are dried? Or are they fine? I was told they come off easy when dried. Any concerns that these are not edible, or any precautions?

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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: GirlInShroom]
    #26448986 - 01/23/20 08:52 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Congrats on your fruits! :mushroom2: I find it easier to clean off the spores before drying.

Its not bad to eat spores they just taste nasty.

Also the proper species name is Psilocybe cubenis. Strophoria is an outdated term. We call them Psilocybes.


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    #26448990 - 01/23/20 08:56 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

No concerns about eat-ability (of fruits or spores - might be a little bitter), but I'd keep them in the dehydrator until cracker dry if you're thinking about storing them, wetness can cause mold issues.


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26448991 - 01/23/20 08:57 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

That’s funny I just read something about how they were called that because they were found in Cuba.

Those look good, def keep going if they’re not totally dry. I usually don’t bother with the spores but a lot seem to get baked into the stem in the dehydrator.


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26449035 - 01/23/20 09:31 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Indeed you are right!


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American mycologist Franklin Sumner Earle (1856-1929) is the first to collect identified Psilocybe cubensis (originally designated Stropharia cubensis) in Cuba.



https://psychedelicreview.com/event/earle-first-to-collect-psilocybe-cubensis/

I also find it curious that "Cuba" and "Cubenis" have similar spelling. Coincidence or Synchronicity? :strokebeard:


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26449425 - 01/24/20 06:52 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Nope it means from Cuba according to what I read.

And Psilocybe means thin head. For whatever reason.

I’m going to start calling them all Cuban thin heads.


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26449739 - 01/24/20 10:38 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

This whole time i thought Cubenis meant "bald head" and "Psilocybe" mean "psilocybin containing mushroom". The More You Know: https://m.wisegeek.com/what-is-tarentula-cubensis.htm


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    #26449768 - 01/24/20 11:03 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

It very well could mean bald, might be one of those interpretations of a dead language deals.

Lol that spider thing is gross, blue fingers and pain?? Have some tarantula extract!


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26449801 - 01/24/20 11:31 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

True. The language is a mess. But "Psi" of Psilocybin means "of the Mind" like Psychology so thats gotta be tied in with the meaning.

Those Cuban spiders are crazy and its weird they are called "cubenis" too :mushroom2:


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    #26459182 - 01/29/20 09:08 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Quick question, are the mushrooms coming out the side and bottom a problem (squished against the wet sides of the bins)? They are small but have mass (like 1-1.5in in diameter). Not sure if these are issues with really small but fat mushrooms? I suspect this is the end of this batch. Nothing has grown in any of the bins I've opened up before...also nothing that looks like contamination, just a lot of tiny baby mushrooms that don't seem to want to come out. Funny that the conditions were better on the bottom of the bin than on the top. Maybe these are Australian?

I had to pick these as the ones on top just aren't growing (wee little things that have been sitting there for days), and some of these were starting to drop spores everywhere:


A few of the early ones after drying:


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: GirlInShroom]
    #26459198 - 01/29/20 09:17 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

They might have aborted. At this point you can soak the entire thing. If it is still in the bag, fill the container with water and let it sit for a few hours. Thoroughly drain it and fan it out like you would fan a hot pot of soup.

  Then close the lid of the bag almost all the way shut and wait till tomorrow. Fan 2-4 times a day and mist as needed. You will at least get 1 more flush out of that thing.

The reason that the sides produce mushrooms more than the top is because the sides have a higher humidity ratio. The humidity and the evaporation will trigger the pinning we like to see and cause the mycelium to produce fruit there. It is the ideal condition for the fruit to develop and maintain moisture and not dry out while developing. So if you can create that same condition on the top of your substrate your second flush might have more fruits on top.


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Re: First time - kit tubs ok? [Re: GirlInShroom]
    #26459379 - 01/29/20 11:50 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Those small fat ones are called "fatasses". Its just a genetic thang. Nothing to worry about.

If they are dropping spores, then harvest ASAP. Try to avoid spore-dropping by harvesting right after the veil breaks from the cap.


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