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Not in Kansas anymore? * 1
    #26446197 - 01/22/20 11:44 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Is it just me, or has anyone administered a dose of mushrooms or acid so high that it became less certain that what you knew was the truth?

Popular consensus does not equate with truth.

You have to be careful here, in this territory, because people just collect darts (virote).

Virote are used in the jungle by shamans. They’re used to heal but can also harm.

Sorcerers and brujas use them, the darts, mostly for harm. This means they drive away the competition so they can basically make more money.

A dart is a, usually, long and sharp object. It moves fast through the wind and points in a direction. A dart is a “metaphysical”, abstract object for the desire to be “white”.

That’s how white people behave.

It’s socially advantageous to only talk about things you’re an expert in, or else your “audience” will find someone else who not only did everything you did already, somehow, but also everything you want to do, so that they don’t have any goals. They’re just sitting there, waiting for something?

Does this sound familiar, or do I just live in a racist society?

Did I somehow give everyone the opportunity to pretend they’re smarter than me by default (a priori)?

The trickster is an “archetype” that uses awareness of the truth to insult the intelligence of others, or play games with them.

The majority of people in the world are not, and have not been, “tricksters”. It’s only connected to psychedelic use through heritage, as trickster is a Native American myth, and they used peyote and mushrooms.

Recently, people might start acting like they are or were tricksters, or they’ll go through extra lengths to express their contempt for them, because it’s easier to fool someone than to convince them they’ve been fooled.

What else can defend my position that this mindstate is still possible without sacrificing any “intelligence” or IQ?

No one is as daring as I, so they wouldn’t tell of such an experience or word it in a way. I already said that you all  are, basically, cowards.

There’s something wrong with the western materialistic mindset and how it meshes with the shamanistic viewpoint.

White people take things from other cultures and try to make it “proper” in anyway, using any opportunity they get. That’s how you know it’s bullshit, because they claim to “understand” things, fully, at a speed rivaling the processing power of the latest quantum computers. It’s “impossible”.

Weed is nowhere near as potent in being able to do this, as it just makes one feel like a space cadet. Most people who criticize such an experience have not tried acid or mushrooms, and just feel like they can “transcend” people who have. They feel certain admissions muddle their chances of ever being past a threshold level of intelligence.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26446255 - 01/22/20 12:15 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Um ok.

Be careful out there folks.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26446261 - 01/22/20 12:18 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

My thoughts exactly...


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26446893 - 01/22/20 05:55 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

You gotta come down eventually


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Backbone]
    #26447028 - 01/22/20 07:20 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

:eek::eek:

And this isn't even the fucked up section of the forum.

No wonder I rarely leave cultivation.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26447068 - 01/22/20 07:42 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Shr00mEater said:
Um ok.

Be careful out there folks.



Try telling that to someone who just got stunned by a flashbang grenade.
It didn’t happen to you. You don’t know, and the critics are useless enough that they can’t entertain the idea. It’s called math.
Computer programming.
Science-fiction
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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Backbone]
    #26447105 - 01/22/20 07:58 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Backbone said:
You gotta come down eventually



That’s like eating mushrooms then saying you saw an alien, UFO, or pretty colors and shapes, then someone trying to get you to say that you ate mushrooms, but in fact did not see any of those things.

You can’t even joke around, because these people cannot relate.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Smartattack]
    #26447123 - 01/22/20 08:10 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Smartattack said:
:eek::eek:

And this isn't even the fucked up section of the forum.

No wonder I rarely leave cultivation.



Wtf? Seriously?


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26447161 - 01/22/20 08:32 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

I found a virote:



Says it is Spanish though, so not sure what the shamans are doing with it.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26447164 - 01/22/20 08:34 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Blabble40 said:
Quote:

Backbone said:
You gotta come down eventually



That’s like eating mushrooms then saying you saw an alien, UFO, or pretty colors and shapes, then someone trying to get you to say that you are mushrooms, but in fact did not see any of those things.

You can’t even joke around, because these people cannot relate.




Wow. That’s deep man. It’s exactly like that, you’re right.

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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26447542 - 01/23/20 02:37 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

I was trying so hard to read this and understand it and then I got to the part about a dart being a metaphor for wanting to be white and I just gave up


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Corundum]
    #26447607 - 01/23/20 04:13 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

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I was trying so hard to read this and understand it and then I got to the part about a dart being a metaphor for wanting to be white and I just gave up



It isn’t so much that, it’s that it wants to imitate the western mindset, which is sometimes Nazi in origin. People don’t always know because the Nazis used subliminal messages. They could be “asleep”, to put it bluntly.
Culture isn’t always what you want. The real reason I should give up, is because people’s expectation is always going to be different. They go “My idea of what it is is something else,” like a wrong interpretation.
After a certain point, the most effective treatment for darts was to recognize them. The trap is they take anything I do to be “wrong” for some reason, so it’s as if they’re “building” tools for what an ideal person should be.
It’s mostly just watching what you say, but people always try to sense something else.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26447614 - 01/23/20 04:25 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

It’s as if they’re expecting a story, and just keep provoking me into typing more posts for information, because they aren’t satisfied with what scraps I put out fast enough.

The “more” thing is bs too because most people don’t even want or need more mushrooms, acid, or hallucinogens in general. They thought it was something else. The darts also matter because you can see the true phenotype of a person. It’s all tests and they’re retarded, because they just try to get you to talk about the “opposite” of whatever was mentioned. At what point do they feel they can not discuss the topic, and just beg for information on the “opposite”, as if that’s what they came to you for. Or rather, me. But, apparently, they only come to me to make new darts, for the most part. LSD showed me the truth in a few ways, and mushrooms “review” stuff. The only difference are the visual hallucinations and the laid back feeling of psilocybin/psilocin, while LSD has a “stimulant” feel to it after it kicks in.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40] * 1
    #26447641 - 01/23/20 05:19 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorganized_schizophrenia

Word salad makes me hungry, do we have a window dressing for coating the leaves. One should always where a coat when one leaves. Trees are everywhere.






That’s my best guess, first guess has been a forum “chat bot” ... but, if he a real person. There ya go.

Prolly shouldn’t tease him if he is actually mentally ill.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26447679 - 01/23/20 06:20 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

:whatwhatwhat:


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26448304 - 01/23/20 02:15 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

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InfiniteDreams said:
I found a virote:



Says it is Spanish though, so not sure what the shamans are doing with it.



In particular it’s “Mestizo”, which is a branch of mixed blood, Mexican, Indian, and presumably Spanish too.

Most shamans are from the Amazonian rainforests. Recently, the Jews tried to make a connection with DMT because Strassman and the Bible.
But, shamans have been using aya, mushrooms, and peyote for almost two millennia.

It’s related to bow and arrows. In The Hobbit Wood-elves use arrows. When you take psychedelics it brings out the elfin nature latent in human beings and the universe.

Shamans dip their arrow tips in curare, which is a CNS poison. Specifically, it’s like phlegm.

Read any book on shamanism and you’ll see stuff about darts, sucking, or blowing, but it seems fake or non existent. I freely admit it took me years and multiple shaman books to finally grasp what it meant. Plus, they use trance states, some of which from psychoactive substances, so it took some use of those to understand too.

Think about it. It’s about conforming.

Read Singing to the Plants by Stephen Beyer, he goes into a lot about it.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26448319 - 01/23/20 02:20 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

Shr00mEater said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorganized_schizophrenia

Word salad makes me hungry, do we have a window dressing for coating the leaves. One should always where a coat when one leaves. Trees are everywhere.






That’s my best guess, first guess has been a forum “chat bot” ... but, if he a real person. There ya go.

Prolly shouldn’t tease him if he is actually mentally ill.




I originally wanted to write a book, so there’s a lot to uncover. You don’t have to see me as the frenzied “Charlie” guy from It’s Always Sunny, with a map on the wall and all these crazy connections and photos posted to it.

Watch Magic Trip, it’s about the Acid-Tests. They used mushrooms too. Dean Moriarty (Neal Cassady) from On The Road drove the bus, and was known as Sir Speed Limit.

They used Benzedrine but could have been overwhelmed by LSD. I think it’s an “extension” or extra component to mushrooms if there aren’t enough to go around. He wanted to be a writer too.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26448410 - 01/23/20 03:04 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Sometimes I enjoy reading such thoughts. It takes me straight to that feeling of being on the cusp of a beautiful, unique discovery. It also is an excellent way to get in trouble with your family and friends if you are messed up enough to try to justify and explain that feeling of pure, nonsensical insight to anybody else. Anybody who has tried this knows what I'm talking about.

I've firsthand see some people go off the deep end from using psychedelics and have messianic thoughts, an eagerness to share nonsense with people to the point of breaking relationships, and start to construct a completely bonkers view of reality and psychedelia and history. The person I saw this happen to wasn't crazy for long, luckily, but it's a reminder not to push oneself too far or to at least keep your revelations to yourself if you do.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26448428 - 01/23/20 03:13 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

I think writing a book would be a good idea. I think it could be challenging for you to write it in such a way that others could read and understand it.

Are still not taking anti-psychotics? I saw a post awhile back where you mentioned it.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: jdawg333]
    #26448434 - 01/23/20 03:19 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Not many can pull off the McKenna life successfully in other words.

Maybe if we were listening to OP talk?

:lolsy:


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: jdawg333]
    #26448524 - 01/23/20 04:15 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

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Sometimes I enjoy reading such thoughts. It takes me straight to that feeling of being on the cusp of a beautiful, unique discovery. It also is an excellent way to get in trouble with your family and friends if you are messed up enough to try to justify and explain that feeling of pure, nonsensical insight to anybody else. Anybody who has tried this knows what I'm talking about.

I've firsthand see some people go off the deep end from using psychedelics and have messianic thoughts, an eagerness to share nonsense with people to the point of breaking relationships, and start to construct a completely bonkers view of reality and psychedelia and history. The person I saw this happen to wasn't crazy for long, luckily, but it's a reminder not to push oneself too far or to at least keep your revelations to yourself if you do.



I realize that I might smoke weed more than is appropriate.
Some may accuse me of still being stuck in my college days, where peer pressure forces experimentation with substances. “High thoughts” used to be funny, because they sounded philosophical, but others see them as a sorry excuse for the real thing.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26448525 - 01/23/20 04:16 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

This thread is over. Every kid thinks they could be the next Kerouac or Hunter S. Thompson.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26448588 - 01/23/20 04:50 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

It’s not over yet...

😊

Are you saying that you’re the kid who wants to be Kerouac or Hunter S Thompson?


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26448684 - 01/23/20 05:42 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

who is that i know who hunter s thompson but i dont know why people revere him


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Backbone]
    #26448731 - 01/23/20 06:00 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was a fun movie...


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26448738 - 01/23/20 06:05 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

:notards:


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #26448966 - 01/23/20 08:40 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

For example, I said it took me years to understand what specially is a dart (virote), and how they work.

And that may or may not even be true because I understood it the first time, but skill develops over time anyway, and at a different rate for each person.

That means if some people read that thought, they’ll assume there’s some “woke” dude out there who, by proxy, “understood” what darts are and is an expert at them, as if that makes them more valuable. At no point did I say I wanted to be a dart expert, not a jack of all trades, although it couldn’t hurt. That means if I disappoint some in that, they assume some weakness in that new endeavor means an insecurity in those you associate with. They only want the best, but only so much time has occurred in terms of 10,000 hours required for expertise.

There are “only” 7.7 billion people in the world. That proves each person has a distinct set of separate interests, favorites, and skills. Not everyone could possibly be a professional in every art.

I think it’s the book Only Two Can Play This Game that convinced people being an expert is a trap, and it’s better to be called everything, instead of one title or job.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26449171 - 01/23/20 11:50 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

I'm going to try to put this as plainly as possible. None of us understand you.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26449251 - 01/24/20 02:41 AM (4 years, 5 days ago)

I hate to be the one to have to tell you this OP, but I think you're currently going through an episode of psychosis or possibly schizophrenia. Your posts in this thread are just barely making sense. Many of the sentences themselves don't fully make any sense, and the overall ideas of your posts are all over the place and don't fully make sense. Your first post for example starts out making sense, but very quickly becomes difficult to follow and then impossible.

If you've been doing any drugs lately, you should try to stop for a while until you recover a little. That includes weed. If you have bipolar, then it's possible you're going through a manic episode. It's possible a mood stabilizer might help in that case if you have access to any. You might even consider taking an antipsychotic, just to get you back on the right track. If that fails or you don't have access to that stuff, you might want to consider seeing a doctor.

It's too bad because I was interested in the original question in this thread: can psychedelics blur the line between fantasy and reality. On a medium dose of a lysergamide or a large dose of mushrooms, I sometimes have a hard time telling what is real and what I only imagined. The line between fantasy and reality becomes blurred or even confused. It's a strange and beautiful experience to wonder if you're really experiencing a thing or only imagining it.

It'd like to discuss that a bit further, but you really need to take care of yourself OP. I hope you feel better and start thinking more clearly soon.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: nooneman]
    #26449298 - 01/24/20 04:30 AM (4 years, 5 days ago)

I can imagine this being true in the age of TRUMPISM, where facts are less important and people need to conform or fail in the most inane ways.

due to being surrounded by blockheads, it becomes impossible to make progress, and one gets locked into inanity.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26449384 - 01/24/20 05:51 AM (4 years, 5 days ago)

And nobody even bothers to read the reports.
I wonder if literacy will become a thing of the past, a scorned tool of elitism.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: nooneman]
    #26449628 - 01/24/20 09:14 AM (4 years, 5 days ago)

:sun:


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26450139 - 01/24/20 02:20 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

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Is it just me, or has anyone administered a dose of mushrooms or acid so high that it became less certain that what you knew was the truth?





Many many times. That's just part of the experience.

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And when I was suffering from a concussion induced schizophrenic state years ago much of my thinking, speech, and writing was similar to what you're saying and doing here.  However, it wasn't the sense of unreality that stuck with me, it was the fact that the impossible stuff actually happened...totally straight...and in front of other people who also saw it.  Smoke that pipe. :laugh2:


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26450179 - 01/24/20 03:00 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

Like what?


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Backbone]
    #26450272 - 01/24/20 04:03 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

Not saying in this thread.  :thataintright:


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26450282 - 01/24/20 04:10 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

lol k


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26450301 - 01/24/20 04:24 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)



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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: fluorescent]
    #26451014 - 01/25/20 12:01 AM (4 years, 4 days ago)

TLDR the thread but i was listening to a JRE Graham hancock today and GH suggested that psychedelics adjust our brain to be able to essentially refocus on another dimension that is alive within our own. i can get behind that theory because ive have trips that have somewhat turned into deja vu. although it could just be coincidence. we know nothing for certain.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: nooneman]
    #26452085 - 01/25/20 03:14 PM (4 years, 4 days ago)

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I hate to be the one to have to tell you this OP, but I think you're currently going through an episode of psychosis or possibly schizophrenia. Your posts in this thread are just barely making sense. Many of the sentences themselves don't fully make any sense, and the overall ideas of your posts are all over the place and don't fully make sense. Your first post for example starts out making sense, but very quickly becomes difficult to follow and then impossible.

If you've been doing any drugs lately, you should try to stop for a while until you recover a little. That includes weed. If you have bipolar, then it's possible you're going through a manic episode. It's possible a mood stabilizer might help in that case if you have access to any. You might even consider taking an antipsychotic, just to get you back on the right track. If that fails or you don't have access to that stuff, you might want to consider seeing a doctor.

It's too bad because I was interested in the original question in this thread: can psychedelics blur the line between fantasy and reality. On a medium dose of a lysergamide or a large dose of mushrooms, I sometimes have a hard time telling what is real and what I only imagined. The line between fantasy and reality becomes blurred or even confused. It's a strange and beautiful experience to wonder if you're really experiencing a thing or only imagining it.

It'd like to discuss that a bit further, but you really need to take care of yourself OP. I hope you feel better and start thinking more clearly soon.



You can have a respectable opinion, because we know what a simple misunderstanding can do. Some of what I do is cutting edge, groundbreaking research. For example, I’m not asking anyone to be racist or use that point of view for their belief. In Stan Grof’s books he talks about the need for new understanding in science. He says new information about the mind should be incorporated into the prevailing scientific world views.

There is no psychedelic rennaissance, and it doesn’t have to be advertised as such. People are just offended that as whites, indigenous populations can’t advise them on what they should do. John Lennon is one of my favorite singer-songwriters because of his work with The Beatles. It doesn’t make sense that anyone, these days especially, can pretend to surpass his contribution to our understanding of life, beauty, and how things operate.

Talk is only so cheap. Every kid these days are Beatles impostors especially; there’s no need to feign a desire for postmodern life in the now. Some of us have been wishing for flying cars since the 90’s.

For example, shamans in the jungle use la dieta when working with the plants. People think Siberian shamanism is better because there’s no real mention of that, or any other rules. They’re the ones who used Amanita muscaria in Europe, mainly the Koryaks. In the Wassons’ book, they say the “berserk” mode isn’t a myth. In the end, berserk really means “bear shirt”, although the Vikings didn’t really use it before battles and village raiding.

They also say you have to go vegan, or eat only vegan animals, because other animals could make your stomach filthy and harder to use ayahuasca. None of them are rave substances, but the mushroom could have helped with hunting and food gathering by increasing visual acuity.

We don’t need more people on medication in hospital beds especially when they could be having a spiritual emergency, which would mean an inconsistency.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26452129 - 01/25/20 03:44 PM (4 years, 4 days ago)

is racist code for something dawg


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Backbone]
    #26452135 - 01/25/20 03:48 PM (4 years, 4 days ago)

No. I used to try to hang out and talk all day but that’s what poor people do, if there’s even time after everything else.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26452153 - 01/25/20 03:57 PM (4 years, 4 days ago)

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No. I used to try to hang out and talk all day but that’s what poor people do, if there’s even time after everything else.



I think it’s time to lay off the cid for a while bro


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: 330ci]
    #26452211 - 01/25/20 04:41 PM (4 years, 4 days ago)

Its what poor people do bro


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: numnum59]
    #26454290 - 01/26/20 10:49 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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TLDR the thread but i was listening to a JRE Graham hancock today and GH suggested that psychedelics adjust our brain to be able to essentially refocus on another dimension that is alive within our own. i can get behind that theory because ive have trips that have somewhat turned into deja vu. although it could just be coincidence. we know nothing for certain.



People need to remember that not all ideas are accepted by the academic mainstream. Hancock was always criticized for his beliefs and the things he said. His stuff isn’t really taught in schools, but it’s interesting to note what can pass the rigor and what’s unproven conjecture or “conspiracy talk”.
I read Parzival for a class before Sign and the Seal but read Fingerprints of the Gods first. The conspiracy is simple, and isn’t so much that females are attracted to taller guys, uglier guys, dumber guys, or guys with beards more, or even just lighter complexioned guys.
So it could be a racist thing.
Subconsciously it could still be so. People deny, and lie, so talking is sometimes futile. It takes a lot of energy to change how someone feels.
I figured out what it is. When people stare at certain people, it kicks in a mechanism that drives them to want to be more “enlightened”, and they try. They feel they need to surpass, and the only way is to “do or believe” the opposite of what the other person does, as simple as it sounds. Then it spreads to group behavior, rules go out the window, then you have “stranded on an island” survival scenarios.
That’s why life is about breathing air, because you have to talk, and actions speak louder than words. Looks and sense of humor don’t really matter. It turns into a “samurai” and “honor” thing that the female is attracted to; as implied, “intelligence” turns into nothing related to memorizing facts, and instead a form of what’s known as opportunism. It becomes about appearing something than actually being it, and so and so. It’s even more so prevalent in the age of “artificial intelligence”.
So they just spread rumors to self create black sheep and outcasts so they can pretend they know the truth and take it for their own selves, a concept that seems related to the “face” stuff.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26454328 - 01/26/20 11:36 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Backbone]
    #26455621 - 01/27/20 05:21 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: azramb]
    #26455716 - 01/27/20 06:15 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

And so I only mentioned Lennon because I saw a lady who looked like him. But it’s none of my business. Language sucks. But that’s partially what I wanted to talk about. People think they can surpass legends by drug use. It’s known popular or “famous” figures like Joe Rogan or Graham Hancock tried mushrooms and ayahuasca, but then there are those who try to overdo it and label it for anti-depression or any other non-sensical, unsolicited use. LSD and psilocybin are illegal, you’re not even supposed to be doing them, so you can get punished. Lives can even be taken, on mushrooms or LSD, such as swan dives or driving a car and crashing. I wouldn’t put it in terms of not doing the crime, but people can get nailed by being open. That was the conspiracy. The Illuminati was always a thing, but people feel like they “defeated” and are being open with everything like it’s positive to share this and that. So why did they complain about NSA or Facebook stealing information like the CIA? It’s hypocritical. But people like to act like they didn’t and couldn’t have fallen for a trap. Surveillance is dumb. Freedom is an illusion and we’re all prisoners in a Cold War. Patriotism has a frame of reference of 1984 or the film Equilibrium. Huxley is boring, so why do people pretend to write or talk about him besides the reducing valve reference? There’s Don Juan and all the native folk tales, plus McKenna and Leary for the modern mind. Brave New World was weak, and they over relied on medicine.
People like The Hobbit and LotR because it’s mostly a white thing, like elves and renaissance fairs. Psychedelics make people feel connected to rock music and fairy tales with elves. People don’t like Jimi Hendrix  because they disagree with a colored man having sex with as many white women as possible, which not everyone here has experience with. So it’s related to that. There’s no benefit to reading older works before new ones. King Arthur romances are about psilocybin and LSD, but also DMT. You need poetry and music because rap musicians are the most successful in terms of women and potential for sustainable lifestyle. But not everyone is cut out for it, so they wrote “poems” or rhythmic verse in different format. When the knights of the round table took LSD, or mushrooms, they looked more like elves and they acted accordingly. Astronomy and astrology was also used to search for aliens, in the medieval times. It’s different today. There are hardly any wars left to fight. 9/11 as a conspiracy was just to reminisce over the wars. Abe Lincoln was still racist even though he signed the Emancipation Proclamation. He was just following orders but that’s why they killed him. The Civil War was between North and South America, and since the North won, their ideology became prevalent.
Biology really started when Fleming discovered Penicillin. Most people are just drugs users but a few years ago it became fashionable to know the basic sciences when understanding drugs, even ones as simple as cannabis. It all really starts with interest in ayahuasca, but people collect easier to handle drugs like tabs or mushrooms. There was something about the weed that made people stash mushrooms and acid instead, rather than in addition to. I stay away from MDMA because it’s illegal, like cocaine, and I tried it once but it gave me a bad hangover. They also said it puts holes in your brain. Mushrooms and LSD were never said to do that. Overusing the receptors they bind to just causes a tolerance of the gland. The holes in the brain rumor is just anti-drug speech. The scientists who started the movement, like John C. Lily, were never known as serious academics and so aren’t respected.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40] * 1
    #26455738 - 01/27/20 06:27 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

Do you know that when most people speak to other people they try and have a point?


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Backbone]
    #26455883 - 01/27/20 07:46 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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Do you know that when most people speak to other people they try and have a point?




:whathesaid:

Blabble your bringing up a lot of books, people, events, and ideas that really interest me, but the way you are writing and haphazardly trying to connect things is concerning.

Wouldn't hurt to slow down on the drugs man. Just a thought.



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When the knights of the round table took LSD



sorry but :ilold: purdy hard at that one


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26456098 - 01/27/20 10:29 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

:wonka:


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Smartattack]
    #26456395 - 01/28/20 07:42 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Does the ayahuasca make the rappers racist?  Or did King Arthur already prepare for that?


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26456515 - 01/28/20 09:35 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Computer programming is one of the most important roles you can get because of the informational security involved.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Blabble40]
    #26457863 - 01/29/20 01:15 AM (4 years, 19 hours ago)

For example, the latest dart for harm is to pretend you know everything already and only talk about stuff you’re an expert in.
If you call the BS out, and say such a thing is impossible, they say you’re crazy or brain is wired differently due to being a different race, but that’s dumb. A healing dart is different because the person just cancels out as much of the tension as possible.
It’s mostly the book Only Two Can Play This Game that told people it’s better to be an expert at everything, Jack of all trades, than just at one thing.
Another source is that psychedelics were supposed to promise amazing things and stuff possible only through them. So there’s basically supposed to be a shaman kid who tried every psychedelic by 1 years old and knows everything.
What they mean when they say one cannot speak of what one cannot know, is that it’s just “really difficult” putting it into words. That doesn’t mean it’s too hard for me and someone else could do it, it means it’s hard for everyone. Then, someone is going to “look for” someone who didn’t say that or doesn’t believe, whether they can prove or not doesn’t matter because only being superficial does.
There’s no credit given. It turns stale, by definition. McKennites think it’s about novelty. Feelings can be important by being connected to thoughts.


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Backbone]
    #26457929 - 01/29/20 03:43 AM (4 years, 17 hours ago)

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Do you know that when most people speak to other people they try and have a point?



Don't worry, it's always like that with Blabble. You can just skip over the posts if they're a bit nuts for you. Sometimes I start reading one and then I'm suddenly thinking "wtf?". Then I realise who wrote it and all is well again. At least he's consistent.

Could probably create a website and just string his posts together in a massive single feed. Might gain some cult following.  :strokebeard:


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Re: Not in Kansas anymore? [Re: Northerner]
    #26458003 - 01/29/20 05:55 AM (4 years, 14 hours ago)

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