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Has it beed decided or can it be edited? * 1
    #26445908 - 01/22/20 09:16 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

So synchronicity has been happening alot lately. Its kinda like the universe gives me a little peek through the window sometimes. To some this happends alot to some not very much and i am sure there are a whole lot that go by totally unnoticed. These "windows" have been leading me to a question....Does everything happen as "it was written" meaning everything that will ever happen has already been decided. Its a game we agreed to play because we know the ending we just pretend not to.....OR....Can reality be edited? Meaning nothing is pre determined but every now and then when we absolutely need it we get a peek at something more to help us make a decision or brighten the day if really needed? what do you guys think?


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: dbreeze] * 1
    #26445930 - 01/22/20 09:28 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

That's a tough philosophical question, I personally believe everything has already happened and we're just here going through the motions.  But that doesn't mean we can't change things to a degree based on the way we think and our decisions.  So it's kind of a combination of both, with what we see as the "future" being something of a probability matrix.  If that makes sense :shrug:

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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #26445952 - 01/22/20 09:40 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

It deffinitly is a tough question....maybe like you said everything already happened all at once and without time our consciousness could just be traveling through this experiencing it as time...

i read a book and the idea was that yes it has been written but at times one can learn to read omens to change what will happen. BUT that only god reveals those omens when things need to change. but then the question arises maybe it was written that you would notice the omen to change it?!?!?! its like the chicken or the egg question to me


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #26445960 - 01/22/20 09:42 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Life is what you make of it. I think every decision you make has the potential to change your future. Not per say butterfly effect, but undoubtedly you can manipulate/manifest your destiny.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: dbreeze] * 1
    #26445968 - 01/22/20 09:45 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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i read a book and the idea was that yes it has been written but at times one can learn to read omens to change what will happen. BUT that only god reveals those omens when things need to change. but then the question arises maybe it was written that you would notice the omen to change it?!?!?! its like the chicken or the egg question to me




I think the easiest way to answer the chicken/egg question is that they both appeared simultaneously.  If you believe time is indeed holographic (rather than linear) this isn't a stretch at all.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #26446018 - 01/22/20 10:09 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Maybe its just something we cant know....i mean even if you thought you had the answer would it be knowing or believing....watched a sadhguru clip this morning where he talks about belief being dangerous because you dont know. for example the bottom line is we dont KNOW what happens after death. many have beliefs and will say they know but we really dont know. All we know is what we experience in our heads. But then he talks about he KNOWS life from its origins absolute But isnt that what he experiences in his head and maybe could be belief not knowing? But hey he is a guru so will never give out the secret to obviously wich i agree the experience and the journey are the fun pieces!!


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: dbreeze] * 1
    #26446031 - 01/22/20 10:15 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

I agree, it's pretty hard to say whether someone "knows" anything about ultimate reality, or whether it's just "in their head".  Maybe it's the same?  Some do say your beliefs/thoughts actually CREATE your reality.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: Forrester]
    #26446056 - 01/22/20 10:27 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Great question

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dbreeze said:
every now and then when we absolutely need it we get a peek at something more to help us make a decision or brighten the day if really needed.




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Forrester said:
That's a tough philosophical question, I personally believe everything has already happened and we're just here going through the motions.  But that doesn't mean we can't change things to a degree based on the way we think and our decisions.




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Thesunbeam said:
Life is what you make of it. I think every decision you make has the potential to change your future. Not per say butterfly effect, but undoubtedly you can manipulate/manifest your destiny.




Been abstaining from my mushy for a awhile now(it broke my heart hearing the mourns of my love ones). Based on the topic and comments Im starting to relived that moment of:

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pacmanbreed said:
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How exactly does my quote remind you of that scene? Just curious



This: When i was child, i wasnt aware of "time and space"

Its feels like we are fixing something from the past towards a great future.:heart::heart:

In my last accidental trip i have experienced a strong split of perception of reality(quite scary) same as the butterfly effect. (THE death of someone teacheth LOVE) to every universe(Quantum multiverse)



Einstein: time-space is not absolute
Time and space is only an illusion of the mind.




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If you believe time is indeed holographic (rather than linear) this isn't a stretch at all.




It can be a case that The space/the road is linear on the way HOME/UNIVERSE though there are many roads. while the time is holographic.


Edited by pacmanbreed (01/22/20 10:47 AM)


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #26446095 - 01/22/20 10:45 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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Its feels like we are fixing something from the past towards a great future.




Indeed.  I believe we can fix the past AND the future by our thinking in the NOW.  It's what the J man says in the Course in miracles anyway.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #26446096 - 01/22/20 10:45 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Then this wonderful post suddenly hit me. Which I didnt grasp fully in the past.

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Asante said:
:vodou:

Every time you stand at a crossroads in life, you split into four.

There is the you that goes forward, the you that goes back, the you that goes left and the you that goes right.

You only go witn the version of you that *you*  decide on, but the real you takes all four directions and with it all the possible outcomes of these directions.

Every four of these you's has a lifespan to them, after which tyhey dissolve back into you and bring all the information to you of the choices you didnt take consciously.

When the last version of you standing, dies, you cross over into the next life.

You are The Passenger yes, but of every direction the tracks go.







So in my views it can be both valid. It has been written and can be edited. Or better yet we just have to choose & ride.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #26446107 - 01/22/20 10:50 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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So in my views it can be both valid. It has been written and can be edited. Or better yet we just have to choose.




I wholeheartedly agree.  I too have read that every major decision you make, you indeed make both.  Sometimes they say another dimension is created to live out the other choices we don't consciously experience...


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #26446126 - 01/22/20 10:57 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Yeh some of the syncronicity's that have happened i was like "OH SHIT" did reality bend to what my mind was on or did my mind create this sycronicity its weird hard to put in words. 

Knowing/believing is hard.. i have had some times that after a trip i knew that was the truth the ultimate reality with out a doubt i KNEW cause i experienced it it was not just a random belief...but then again it all happened in my head!.....inner and outer may be the same if you look for the biggest picture or map of the universe that we have then look at a pic of the inner workings of the brain they are remarkably similar. Are we living in gods brain? Are we all just thoughts as we have many thoughts just on a larger scale? Great metaphor.....It could absolutly be both its a hard thing to grasp but no reason a general story line cant be told but we get to chose some of the details along the way...i guess that would be the gift of the ego


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: dbreeze]
    #26446132 - 01/22/20 11:00 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Glad youve brought up the topic. Me realizing this did lessen my fear and worries. :bow2: thank be to UNIVERSE

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Indeed.  I believe we can fix the past AND the future by our thinking in the NOW.  It's what the J man says in the Course in miracles anyway.




Great to know that j man also said this, gets me curious how did J man delivered it. Ive gotta dig thru it.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #26446141 - 01/22/20 11:06 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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Great to know that j man also said this, gets me curious how did J man delivered it. Ive gotta dig thru it.




I wish I could find an exact quote but I can't right now, I was kind of paraphrasing from many quotes... he talks often about the importance of how we think NOW and how time can be re-arranged/fixed in past/future which sounds odd but not so much if we let go of our belief in linear time.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #26446146 - 01/22/20 11:11 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

pacman glad it eased some fears i recently delt with psychosis all on the topic of not being in controll. and been thinking on this topic for a while...the idea can be scary


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: dbreeze] * 1
    #26446159 - 01/22/20 11:22 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

The Universe has already happened. Bygones.

We're just watching the reruns.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: dbreeze]
    #26446172 - 01/22/20 11:29 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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pacman glad it eased some fears i recently delt with psychosis all on the topic of not being in controll. and been thinking on this topic for a while...the idea can be scary




Sorry to hear that man. That feeling of helplessness is overwhelming as ive been there.. Hearing the mourns of my love ones over my dead body in a trip totally broked my heart a year ago.. its helpful to know that there are crossroads.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: Forrester]
    #26446177 - 01/22/20 11:33 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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I wish I could find an exact quote but I can't right now, I was kind of paraphrasing from many quotes... he talks often about the importance of how we think NOW and how time can be re-arranged/fixed in past/future which sounds odd but not so much if we let go of our belief in linear time.




Thanks for sharing man. I can picture it wonderfully :heart: eternal.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: dbreeze]
    #26447459 - 01/23/20 12:39 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

I'd argue there is no reality minus consciousness, so yes, reality is constantly being edited by your awareness.


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Re: Has it beed decided or can it be edited? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26447632 - 01/23/20 04:54 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Maybe its decided until you edit it or not?


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