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Depth and dialogue
    #26445884 - 01/22/20 09:06 AM (4 years, 26 days ago)

What do you think it means to have a "deep" conversation? Or to discuss something "deep"?


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Kickle] * 1
    #26446057 - 01/22/20 10:28 AM (4 years, 26 days ago)

I think it means that the subject broached is of a good deal of import to those involved in the dialogue


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Kickle] * 1
    #26446074 - 01/22/20 10:35 AM (4 years, 26 days ago)

resonance is what is sought.

a deep or vast echo chamber is an example - SIZE or magnitude of the matter is a characteristic.

emptiness may apply filling the vastness with an extreme clarity?

multifarious echoes - and certainly sympathetic vibrations.


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #26446084 - 01/22/20 10:40 AM (4 years, 26 days ago)

I think it has to do with thought VS sense.
Deep conversation centers around more than what you can sense (see, hear, touch, etc.)


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: feldman114]
    #26446273 - 01/22/20 12:23 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

Interesting range of responses :thumbup:

A follow up question: Do you think that there are topics which are inherently not deep? Or can anything be deep given a certain perspective?


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Kickle]
    #26446275 - 01/22/20 12:24 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

Clothes, chains, cars, bitches yo. Also rumors about people who aren’t present.


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: feldman114]
    #26446283 - 01/22/20 12:30 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

Does it take two to tango or is one person enough to make it shallow/deep?


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: feldman114]
    #26446312 - 01/22/20 12:44 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

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Clothes, chains, cars, bitches yo. Also rumors about people who aren’t present.




Its all about context as well you could have a deep conv on sombodies need for said clothing, breaking said chains of slavery. The invention of said car and how it really modernized the world.  I know im being a smartass just saying  :thisisgonnabegood: who doesnt like a good rumor


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Phantom45]
    #26446314 - 01/22/20 12:45 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

Bitches


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Phantom45]
    #26446324 - 01/22/20 12:49 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

I love rumors. Only good part of being a pencil-pushing cubicle poser such as myself.
Doesn’t make them any less shallow lol.

What I meant is conversation about material possessions. As in luxury items one of the parties has/wants to own for the sake of status. “Bruh look at my new Js, dey faya.” “Nice bRuh, did you see the new blah blah’s? Dey bezerk”


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: feldman114]
    #26446393 - 01/22/20 01:26 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

Lmfao i gotchu


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Kickle]
    #26446501 - 01/22/20 02:41 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

any topic can become resonant if you are in the frame of mind; but does it take two to tango?

a dialog with one's self about 'cheetos' could become the deepest existential voyage when ready to be 'deep'/'high' - it is pretty much the scale of things.


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26446834 - 01/22/20 05:22 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

I always knew there was something distinctly cosmic about that orange cheeto dust and I appreciate the verification! :laugh:


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Kickle]
    #26447451 - 01/23/20 12:34 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Deep conversation = going beyond the precepts of common perception, thought, and "understanding" of topics that are usually more complex than they appear on the surface.

For example: nutrition. Very basic, yet also extremely complex given the amount of variables involved.

Philosophy is also another one in which "deep" is essentially a prerequisite for even getting your feet wet.


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26447612 - 01/23/20 04:18 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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Deep conversation = going beyond the precepts of common perception, thought, and "understanding" of topics that are usually more complex than they appear on the surface....



not sure which source you mean to quote, however, I think this definition is shallow:
there should be more connection with the experience of deep conversation and that involves readiness to immerse where a conditioned understanding is either pre-existing, or nearly in place so that a eureka moment can follow. This transporting experience often exposes myriads of tangents each with a sense of true-ness.

going deep should not include just any trivial foray into complexity, but this is commonly the case, wherein the (feigned) depth is not, in fact, more than a superficial mirage.

Superficiality is more related to the experience than to the contents of the topic, which could be Cheetos, or constitutional law, the depth is entirely subtended by the prepared state of the participants in the conversation. (i.e. how deeply and honestly they resonate)


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26447636 - 01/23/20 05:03 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:
Quote:

Loaded Shaman said:
Deep conversation = going beyond the precepts of common perception, thought, and "understanding" of topics that are usually more complex than they appear on the surface....



not sure which source you mean to quote, however, I think this definition is shallow:
there should be more connection with the experience of deep conversation and that involves readiness to immerse where a conditioned understanding is either pre-existing, or nearly in place so that a eureka moment can follow. This transporting experience often exposes myriads of tangents each with a sense of true-ness.

going deep should not include just any trivial foray into complexity, but this is commonly the case, wherein the (feigned) depth is not, in fact, more than a superficial mirage.

Superficiality is more related to the experience than to the contents of the topic, which could be Cheetos, or constitutional law, the depth is entirely subtended by the prepared state of the participants in the conversation. (i.e. how deeply and honestly they resonate)




I feel like you took the condensed version of what I said above, perceived it your own way (the entire point), then proceeded to over-explain the same exact concept I was speaking of in the first place.


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26447799 - 01/23/20 08:28 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

maybe deep then, but not epiphanic, I suppose.


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26447852 - 01/23/20 09:25 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

I'm deeply looking for epiphanies.


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: Pinkerton]
    #26447988 - 01/23/20 11:05 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

find them (or don't) and let us know how the looking went, and maybe we will have a deep dialog as the looking resonates through our varied but sympathetic journey(s).


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Re: Depth and dialogue [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26448023 - 01/23/20 11:32 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Well, you know what journey I'm on.

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