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Psyche delics
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Northerner]
#26445113 - 01/21/20 07:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Northerner said: I've wondered over the years how much better the world would be if there was a plague that wiped out 50% of the global population. I wouldn't like to be part of the half that died, but having a much lower population would probably make this planet a much better place.
With all the looting, anarchy, and violence?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koraks] 1
#26445195 - 01/21/20 08:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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viraldrome said: Those little fuckers need to stop eating monkey brains and tiger cocks. It's like they are trying to be edge lords with their fucked up cuisine and now look where it got them. Who the fuck eats a porcupine? People who eat a civet cat deserve to get some funky disease. But if I say anything I'm culturally insensitive and racist.
It's not so much insensitive/racist (well, actually, it probably is.) It's mostly that it's not very insightful. The problem with these viruses has to do with the combination of intensive poultry farming (although we get the same issues with cattle) and intensive human/animal contact. In that sense, China is indeed different from the US and Europe; we also have the risk factor of hyper-intensive farming, but human/animal contact is more limited over here. Nevertheless, putting it down to dietary habits of the Chinese is rather far-fetched; or, put differently: the dietary habits of the Chinese are not necessarily more risky than those in the West with all our KFC buckets flying around. It's not so much the food itself; it's the supply chain behind it that is the problem. And our supply chain is perhaps only marginally better than theirs.
Disagree. Some things should not be eaten. For instance AIDS came from bushmeat, don't eat monkies. SARS, according to that video was traced back to Civet cats.
It goes without saying that poultry farming should be highly controlled and that chickens and pigs will almost certainly be the source of future flu outbreaks. Having a a full on farm in your backyard of a city is retarded. They will change their ways when the world bans all their citizens from travel because of some funky new pandemic. I don't see the next one coming from dirty KFC's
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: viraldrome]
#26445301 - 01/21/20 09:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The deadliest zoonotic disease outbreak in human history was the 1917 flu, which killed 5% of the human population. It originated in Kansas.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26445306 - 01/21/20 09:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think I have a mild flu(for how fast it came on)... I find viruses super interesting.... They are like rocks with dna
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26445309 - 01/21/20 09:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you have a facility near you that houses all sorts of really fucked up viruses and whatever you classify all that stuff as. They I guess do studies on it and try to think up ways of containing outbreaks. But it’s all right there, bad, bad shit bruh. It made me think you know, what if the power goes out.
Anyways I can’t remember what it’s called but dude was on a radio station talking about what they do there and it was massively concerning that all that shit was just in a building over there.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Amanita86]
#26445314 - 01/21/20 10:02 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should read "The Stand". Its premised on the power going out at a facility like that (or close enough)
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Amanita86]
#26445323 - 01/21/20 10:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I think you have a facility near you that houses all sorts of really fucked up viruses and whatever you classify all that stuff as. They I guess do studies on it and try to think up ways of containing outbreaks. But it’s all right there, bad, bad shit bruh. It made me think you know, what if the power goes out.
Anyways I can’t remember what it’s called but dude was on a radio station talking about what they do there and it was massively concerning that all that shit was just in a building over there.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26445366 - 01/21/20 10:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is how nightmares start..
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ballsalsa said: You should read "The Stand". Its premised on the power going out at a facility like that (or close enough)
I think I have that movie on dvd. I’m not entirely sure, I know the book is gigantic though. Have you done the book vs movie comparison to see if the movie is any good?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26445373 - 01/21/20 10:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I read it a long time a go, really good from what I remember. I liked Dean Koontz and Clive Barker too. I found a book of short stories by Alfred Hitchcock and it was really unnerving. Actually gave me the creeps.
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I’ve gotten pretty deep into King, I used to live way out in the sticks and the local library had somebody donate pretty much all his books. Never thought of looking up Hitchcock though. When I think of him I think of movies. What was the name of the short stories book?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Amanita86]
#26445395 - 01/21/20 11:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's been a long time, I would just search that, short stories by Hitchcock.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26445428 - 01/21/20 11:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The movie was OK, but it is hard to put all that was in the book in a 1.5-2.5 hour movie. It's hard to sit through anything more than that for me anyway.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: viraldrome]
#26445468 - 01/22/20 12:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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viraldrome said: Disagree. Some things should not be eaten. For instance AIDS came from bushmeat, don't eat monkies. SARS, according to that video was traced back to Civet cats.
OK, you've got a point. In both cases, hunting and trading bushmeat was a likely mechanism of the animal/human transition.
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It goes without saying that poultry farming should be highly controlled and that chickens and pigs will almost certainly be the source of future flu outbreaks. Having a a full on farm in your backyard of a city is retarded. They will change their ways when the world bans all their citizens from travel because of some funky new pandemic. I don't see the next one coming from dirty KFC's
I do see that happening, actually. Intensive farming (poultry, cattle) creates an excellent opportunity for (1) spread of animal-borne viruses and (2) intensive contact between animals and humans, facilitating the transition of viruses to the human population. It takes only one chicken farmer to be infected, further infecting his family etc, and the game is on. The infection will not occur at KFC; it will occur in the supply chain, just as with bushmeat.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koraks] 1
#26445478 - 01/22/20 12:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I feel like it’s just a matter of time before some shit pops off. Probably released by the Rothschild gang...
You didn’t hear that from me..
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tyrannicalrex said: The movie was OK, but it is hard to put all that was in the book in a 1.5-2.5 hour movie. It's hard to sit through anything more than that for me anyway.
It wasn’t a movie. It was a miniseries. Total 6 hours.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26445495 - 01/22/20 12:44 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think I remember seeing part of it before... something like a dude pulling bodies with a quad. I probably didn’t finish it though.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Amanita86]
#26445500 - 01/22/20 12:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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And the Band Played On is a really good movie that documented the beginning of the aids crisis.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 1
#26445561 - 01/22/20 02:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said: The movie was OK, but it is hard to put all that was in the book in a 1.5-2.5 hour movie. It's hard to sit through anything more than that for me anyway.
It wasn’t a movie. It was a miniseries. Total 6 hours.
Yes. I've got it on DVD somewhere in my basement. The miniseries follows the book quite closely. King was intimately involved in the production, which probably helped in maintaining consistency. Good casting of Gary Sinise as Stu Redman, but other actors were quite fittingly chosen as well, IMO. The only annoying thing is the low-budget 1990s special effects. Other than that it's a quite effective and convincing adaptation of the original work. Still, as always, the book is more gripping/engaging than the miniseries. I'd either just read the book, or first read the book and then watch the series.
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Northerner said: I've wondered over the years how much better the world would be if there was a plague that wiped out 50% of the global population. I wouldn't like to be part of the half that died, but having a much lower population would probably make this planet a much better place.
With all the looting, anarchy, and violence?
I can see the looting as people want stuff, I'm not sure why the anarchy and violence though. Why would people want to hurt more people now half the population is gone? Just dealing with the corpses would be a monumental job that would sober the vast majority of people, no section of society would be spared in this sort of calamity.
Perhaps I underestimate human capability for savagery and stupidity.
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