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Is tripping without weed worth it?
    #26445103 - 01/21/20 07:51 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Im gonna be getting drug tested for a while and i have some :lsdabc: but ive never tripped without weed and or K. Just wondering if its still worth it cant imagine not tripping without other substances.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics] * 1
    #26445121 - 01/21/20 07:57 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Nah. Might as well flush that acid down the toilet, it’s basically worthless without weed.

Probably wouldn’t even get a body buzz.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics] * 1
    #26445125 - 01/21/20 07:58 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

I personally dose heavy when I do and don’t even really think about smoking.

My homie always pre-rolls a bunch of joints/blunts.  So I guess everyone is different.

I don’t think it’d ruin your time imo.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Big Worm]
    #26445139 - 01/21/20 08:06 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Ya i always pre roll too, rolling on L takes forever:lol:. My biggest concern is i wont feel it enough or want more and end up fucking up my drug test and smoking. Maybe i should just dose a little extra


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Big Worm]
    #26445143 - 01/21/20 08:07 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Yea i mean i usually smoke some when tripping but its not needed . my friend always used to say smoking weed while tripping helps but its like getting out of a rocketship to push... It doesnt change much


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: lighthouse09]
    #26445154 - 01/21/20 08:11 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Well, you could perhaps try smoking on some Syrian Rue seed or Rue/Harmala extract, i know that can potentiate/amplify the effects of mushrooms or 4-ACO-DMT, as well as DMT, so that if you want things to be stronger you can smoke a little bit of that and it'll get the job done pretty well. Idk about LSD though, but i've read where a few people have said it potentiates LSD as well, so it may be worth a try.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: lighthouse09]
    #26445166 - 01/21/20 08:16 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

What?? More like adding a bigger engine with twice the fuel mileage. Smoking completely changes the trip for me and makes me trip way harder and alot different infact i dont smoke until later on in the trip because of those reasons. It really becomes a necessity around the 8 hour mark.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #26445168 - 01/21/20 08:17 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Cant im on prozac. That would definitely be the way to go though I suppose.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26445182 - 01/21/20 08:26 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

If there good tabbs dropp two of them you wont even be thinking about weed lol. Thoe it sucks not having any when you tripp.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26445188 - 01/21/20 08:28 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Yes! What a great chance at a personal experiment even if it's by "force".


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics] * 2
    #26445317 - 01/21/20 10:04 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

100% yes.

When i drop Acid, i feel like I dont need another drug. Same with shrooms. Sometimes i toke up some herb at the end of an Acid trip but not always.

Drop away and enjoy :yesnod:


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26445375 - 01/21/20 10:49 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

I usually forget about weed when I trip alone  :acidcat:


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Mr Solo Dolo] * 1
    #26445379 - 01/21/20 10:52 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Weird al should do a remake of I drink alone but instead use I trip alone, lol!


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 2
    #26445666 - 01/22/20 05:57 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Absolutely. I dknt even smoke weed anymore. But when I trip I dont mind smoking a few hits and calling it good. But it's just because I don't smoke often and when I do the mushrooms hit me like a truck at that point.

But I'm completely fine without smoking. Give me some music and ice water and let let cuddle up and play in my head:lol:


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26445676 - 01/22/20 06:02 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

off weed for the week
had 1/4 tab yesterday which was good but would have been more indulgent and sensual with weed.

at higher doses, absolutely not necessary at all


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #26445697 - 01/22/20 06:31 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

I feel sometimes weed can cloud thinking when combined. But it can also take you deeper sometimes.

The pure experience definitely offers its own niche.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26445701 - 01/22/20 06:34 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Back when i could smoke i use to make a point of putting my weed up before trips because id smoke it all and really not add any extra to the experience besides being pissed i was outa weed on the comedown.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26445704 - 01/22/20 06:36 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

I should clarify thats was for Lsd trips


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26445706 - 01/22/20 06:40 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Im definitely an avocate for the pure experience. Its just better that way in my opinion.

However i do like mixing Shrooms with Acid, but i feel like thats a different subject altogether.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26445720 - 01/22/20 07:02 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Doing anything without weed is worth it.

It seems awfully close-minded of mind-opening experience to tether yourself to normality or habit.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: footpath]
    #26445724 - 01/22/20 07:04 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Whole reason I’m here is because I get tested for work. One the few things I can enjoy without fear of losing my career.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: D3_Myc] * 1
    #26445950 - 01/22/20 09:38 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Whole reason I’m here is because I get tested for work. One the few things I can enjoy without fear of losing my career.



It’s the ultimate insult from ”The War on Drugs”! I mean, we’re productive members of society, we turn up for work, what’s with all the big brother. There was a meme on Facebook recently that might upset a few people, but here goes anyway: it went along the lines of, if the fuel tanker driver has to be tested for work, why aren’t welfare claimants tested in order to collect their dole money?

I smoke too much weed. My intentions this year are to cut it out, and only smoke it while tripping; I find it has such a synergy with psilocin. I couldn’t imagine tripping without weed....

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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26445972 - 01/22/20 09:46 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Whole reason I’m here is because I get tested for work. One the few things I can enjoy without fear of losing my career.



Exactly the same thing brought me here brother cant belive i went damn near 10yrs b4 i thought of shrooms though to be honest ive come to realize i enjoy the hobby more than the trips and really only find myself wanting to dose a handful of times a year simply because they just dont have that recreational feel to me


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26445994 - 01/22/20 09:59 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Its a shit world we live in DJ Ed i get the idea behind the meme but at the same time wish the man didnt just want to fuck everybody on the one hand you can have some skillful job where you dont have to worry much about being tested once your in the door or you can have shit jobs make little money and smoke weed as much as you can afford. Or like me be working with and or around heavy equipment get payed a living wage but becuase my jobs considerd saftey sensitive and under gov contracts strict drug policies are enforced its shit. I can drink myself to death as long as im sober there they dont give a shit but a little thc in my pee my ass is fired no questions asked becuase they cant tell if im sober or not that is bullshit


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26446016 - 01/22/20 10:09 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Yup heard that.... Michgan here still gettin fucked


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26446017 - 01/22/20 10:09 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Its a shit world we live in DJ Ed i get the idea behind the meme but at the same time wish the man didnt just want to fuck everybody on the one hand you can have some skillful job where you dont have to worry much about being tested once your in the door or you can have shit jobs make little money and smoke weed as much as you can afford. Or like me be working with and or around heavy equipment get payed a living wage but becuase my jobs considerd saftey sensitive and under gov contracts strict drug policies are enforced its shit. I can drink myself to death as long as im sober there they dont give a shit but a little thc in my pee my ass is fired no questions asked becuase they cant tell if im sober or not that is bullshit




Same here, in the oil and gas industry. Damn DOT, they need to federally legalize and deschedule


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26446036 - 01/22/20 10:18 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Deffinatly cant be fucking around with rescheduling either its all or nothing. At least it cool to grow it though my old lady can smokeit at least i can farm it


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26446051 - 01/22/20 10:25 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Worth it? Sure!

Optimal? No.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26446055 - 01/22/20 10:27 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Deffinatly cant be fucking around with rescheduling either its all or nothing. At least it cool to grow it though my old lady can smokeit at least i can farm it




Only medical patients are allowed to grow here which really sucks. I have all the equipment but I know if I was growing I’d have a hard time not smoking.


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    #26446127 - 01/22/20 10:57 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Its a shit world we live in DJ Ed i get the idea behind the meme but at the same time wish the man didnt just want to fuck everybody on the one hand you can have some skillful job where you dont have to worry much about being tested once your in the door or you can have shit jobs make little money and smoke weed as much as you can afford. Or like me be working with and or around heavy equipment get payed a living wage but becuase my jobs considerd saftey sensitive and under gov contracts strict drug policies are enforced its shit. I can drink myself to death as long as im sober there they dont give a shit but a little thc in my pee my ass is fired no questions asked becuase they cant tell if im sober or not that is bullshit



That’s exactly where I was coming from, folks. I work in a security controlled sector, and the place I’m currently contracting at has just introduced random drug testing! I’ve got about 10 weeks left to go, then I’ll be looking for other work....

Ifs fucking utter bollocks, people. Apologies for my French!

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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26447263 - 01/22/20 09:55 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

I only noticed when tripping that I feel the weed a lot more and just go into a trance staring at the weed before smoking Didn’t enjoy smoking with a lot of people while on a trip Mostly enjoyed smoking alone


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Rangiku]
    #26447367 - 01/22/20 11:28 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Im honestly really excited for this trip :psychsplit:
Dont really have much planned but im gonna need some shit to do to fill in my time rather than smoking weed.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26447588 - 01/23/20 03:51 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

It will be a new challenge for you. I highly recommend quiet CEV time where u just lay down in a dark room and close your eyes in silence. Its really something special.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics] * 1
    #26447677 - 01/23/20 06:19 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

I like a long shower during almost the whole come up lol.

Then I get in bed like Logical Chaos


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: The Mycologist] * 1
    #26447710 - 01/23/20 06:48 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Long showers are epic on shrooms and Acid. Gives great CEV effects. The sound of water running/falling around you is a trip.

It just sucks when you run out of hot water :lol:


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26447725 - 01/23/20 07:05 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

I’m new what’s CEV stand for?


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: D3_Myc] * 1
    #26447728 - 01/23/20 07:06 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Closed Eye Visuals





Edit: also,  OEV is Open Eye Visuals


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26447732 - 01/23/20 07:13 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

And Logical, how long are you closing your eyes in the shower? For a few seconds or like 10 minutes? I would worry about falling and hurting myself. Your balance must be really good.... I can imagine the water streaming over your body helps orient and keep upright. I will try it next time.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26447739 - 01/23/20 07:23 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Ohh got ya, never had a problem with those. It’s been a good 15 years since I’ve tripped and still have OEV if I relax my vision a little.

I remember my first time taking shrooms I bought a quarter at a party and asked how much to take. They told me to eat the whole thing. I’d done shit tons of cid but that was a whole nother trip. The visuals got so intense I had to turn off all my lights and sit in the dark. Beautiful closed eye visuals, like a rollercoaster of colors but man, around peek I had to take a piss. Tuned on the lights and about had a heart attack. Think I only heard a few splashes as I tried to chase the toilet back and forth it was swaying so hard


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Shr00mEater] * 1
    #26447759 - 01/23/20 07:40 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

About half the time in the shower. I dont get vertigo from closing my eyes, either sober or tripping. If u do get vertigo from closing your eyes sober, do not close your eyes in the shower while tripping!

But laying down on a couch or bed, close dem eyes and drift away to the internal scenery.....


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    #26447912 - 01/23/20 10:02 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

I “expiremented” a few weeks ago when an album ended. I closed my eyes for 15 mins and left the music off. I have to pronounce my amazement when within a minute, the music was back on! Where the hell did it come from? It’s persuaded me to try a complete trip without music........

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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26447922 - 01/23/20 10:07 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Hey mr dj put a record on....:smirk:


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26447931 - 01/23/20 10:14 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

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Hey mr dj put a record on....:smirk:




Lol you couldn’t,make it up! As Morpheus once said; “the bitter irony of it”!

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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26448011 - 01/23/20 11:28 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

So the music turning back on was a paranormal experience during a mushroom or LSD trip?


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    #26448033 - 01/23/20 11:36 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

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So the music turning back on was a paranormal experience during a mushroom or LSD trip?




Yes, completely. But the music must have been in my head! The music was quite “alien”, is the only way I can describe it. Totally unorchestrated. Concluded a full trip in silence must be real deep.....

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    #26448144 - 01/23/20 12:44 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

There were a couple times on Aya where i had something interesting with music happen, outside the usual interestingness that is. The first time i was just sitting there on Aya, listening to music with headphones, i was playing a song called Holographic Universe by Thievery Corporation, and i was just there chillin' listening to it, and started hearing something in the background, at first it was faintly noticeable, and then as it caught my attention it become clearer, it sounded like 2 people were talking, and then they just stopped for a moment, and then i heard "i didn't know he could hear spirits", and the other voice said, "i didn't know he could either", and the voices went away. The other time, i was on Aya in silence, and out of nowhere i heard what sounded like classical music coming from inside my head, i thought somehow my computer or mp3 player was playing some music but i don't really listen to classical music, and i checked everything and nothing was playing, and i couldn't pinpoint the source until i realized it was coming from inside my head lol. Weird, but interesting.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26448190 - 01/23/20 01:16 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Muuusic, peeeople, togetherrr........yeeeeeaaaahhh....


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    #26448846 - 01/23/20 07:02 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Right I was playing an electric guitar and doing some free styling over the track just jammin by myself with the music trippin on LSD.  I was listening to some Thievery Corporation song and I was playing my own solo notes on the guitar while it felt like time was being to a slow and I played a chord I felt like time was standing still with all the notes just ringing out to the song. Very intense vibes

Don’t remember the name of the song.  It was like probably 7-10 minutes long by Thievery Corporation.  I felt like part of the song but I wasn’t playing the exact notes.  Can’t remember and this was approx. 7 years ago


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26448900 - 01/23/20 07:51 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Very cool! Ive also hewrd the shrom music/SFX. Its a very trippy soundscape and very quiet.

Thats awesome Rangiku. I often wonder what it was like to be Jimmi Hendrix flying on Acid, hittin those groovy riffs. :headbang:


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    #26448918 - 01/23/20 08:00 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Oh yeah.  This summer I did some shrooms out on my patio at night and listening to rave music was good especially liked listening to S3RL - Better Off Alone, but lying in the grass with the music turnt up stargazing on my back the bass was noticeably more thumping while I was on a shroom trip.  The bass from the rave music felt like a forcefield that encircled me


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Rangiku]
    #26448951 - 01/23/20 08:30 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Nice!

If u like listening to bass while tripping, check out Psy-Bass music. It will definitely bring u into those trances.


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    #26448981 - 01/23/20 08:46 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

I might even give up combining the two because I always seem to have a worse time after combining weed with LSD. Sure, it makes the visuals better and stronger, but I feel like it makes the overall experience worse somehow. I always expect it to improve the trip, but it seems to take it in the wrong direction for me, making things duller, simpler, less enjoyable. My mind feels fuzzier, it just isn't a good combo for me. It has taken good trips headed in good directions and made the experience highly mediocre for me at times.

The only positive thing it does do for me is dramatically increase the amount and quality of the visuals, which is hard to give up, but I'm tired of weed making my trip shitty.

I would say overall that if you take a reasonably good dose of LSD, weed will actually make it worse.


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    #26449021 - 01/23/20 09:20 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

I’m definitely going to remember and listen to some Psy-Bass in the future.  Experiencing the difference of LSD and shrooms: I find shrooms more like a mix of ecstasy and smoking dmt while LSD is more of an extended dmt trip


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: nooneman]
    #26449302 - 01/24/20 04:32 AM (4 years, 5 days ago)

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I might even give up combining the two because I always seem to have a worse time after combining weed with LSD. Sure, it makes the visuals better and stronger, but I feel like it makes the overall experience worse somehow. I always expect it to improve the trip, but it seems to take it in the wrong direction for me, making things duller, simpler, less enjoyable. My mind feels fuzzier, it just isn't a good combo for me. It has taken good trips headed in good directions and made the experience highly mediocre for me at times.

The only positive thing it does do for me is dramatically increase the amount and quality of the visuals, which is hard to give up, but I'm tired of weed making my trip shitty.

I would say overall that if you take a reasonably good dose of LSD, weed will actually make it worse.



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    #26449583 - 01/24/20 08:49 AM (4 years, 5 days ago)

Yeah dude I couldn’t think of decent words so just said “alien like”!. SFX soundscape describes it much better....... ❤️


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26449771 - 01/24/20 11:05 AM (4 years, 5 days ago)

Weed is useless


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: grati]
    #26449849 - 01/24/20 11:54 AM (4 years, 5 days ago)

What kind of question is this? It's stupid.
  IF IT'S WORTH DOING ON WEED THEN ITS WORTH DOING WITHOUT.

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    #26449898 - 01/24/20 12:21 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

No, it really isn’t. But it also depends on when you smoke it.

It all started with me, because I promoted DMT use as if I based my life on it. But that just made people want to do more acid and mushrooms.

See Terence about the weed. Quitting is nice, especially when your tolerance is low. It isn’t all about getting f’d up, but people like how it makes them think more Socratic.

You need to get to the point where you’ve seen it all.

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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: grati]
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Weed is useless



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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26450061 - 01/24/20 01:44 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

If you're going to say weed is useless then you're going to have to say all psychotropics are useless.
None of them are integral to our existence; they're all superfluous aspects of our being.
However, any of them can have an auxiliary impact that enhances our time alive.
Any of them can be used to see the unnecessary - but fascinating and expansive - realms of existence.
They're all beautiful and many people find value in each one.
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    #26450094 - 01/24/20 02:00 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

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What kind of question is this? It's stupid.
  IF IT'S WORTH DOING ON WEED THEN ITS WORTH DOING WITHOUT.

We are not nannies.



What do you mean "we" you just signed up a year ago. Cant really say youre part of the community yet.


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    #26450114 - 01/24/20 02:08 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

I was just riffing on a post. I believe weed has many uses, recreational and medical. I have been smoking on and off since I was 12-13yo. (not good I know, but I was 12 in 1977)

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    #26450121 - 01/24/20 02:11 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

Oh, my bad. I meant to quote the other duder.

I completely agree that use is weedless.


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    #26450130 - 01/24/20 02:16 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

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I might even give up combining the two because I always seem to have a worse time after combining weed with LSD. Sure, it makes the visuals better and stronger, but I feel like it makes the overall experience worse somehow. I always expect it to improve the trip, but it seems to take it in the wrong direction for me, making things duller, simpler, less enjoyable. My mind feels fuzzier, it just isn't a good combo for me. It has taken good trips headed in good directions and made the experience highly mediocre for me at times.

The only positive thing it does do for me is dramatically increase the amount and quality of the visuals, which is hard to give up, but I'm tired of weed making my trip shitty.

I would say overall that if you take a reasonably good dose of LSD, weed will actually make it worse.



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    #26450303 - 01/24/20 04:26 PM (4 years, 5 days ago)

Apparently I'm in the minority, but I've never tripped with weed. It's been very worthwhile to me.


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    #26451077 - 01/25/20 01:32 AM (4 years, 4 days ago)

Never tripped without weed. But last night got very close to a clean trip; no red wine and no munchies, plenty of water. And the first time I’ve tried psychedelic trance music (Infected Mushroom, 1200 Micrograms, Hallucinogenic, Etc.).

Not very strong visuals, but such an amazing headspace, absolutely breathtaking music. It was like the best lying down rave i’ve ever been too. Will stay with me for a long time.

At 5 and 1/2 hours in, when I was still peaking strong, I started to get moments of clarity, but realised there and then I could barely remember the previous few hours! I can normally remember a trip during the first 24 hours afterwards; must have been a real large one 👍🏻

Didn’t sleep well though; body and head racing, and one of my dogs was lonely so woke me up at 4am. And it’s been almost 24 hours since I ate; maybe that’s why I feel like my head and body have been dragged through a hedge backwards this morning 😱

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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26451523 - 01/25/20 09:32 AM (4 years, 4 days ago)

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Yeah dude I couldn’t think of decent words so just said “alien like”!. SFX soundscape describes it much better....... ❤️




Both work! To me, it sounds like an organic alien SFX soundscape :awesome:


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    #26456913 - 01/28/20 01:59 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I’ve been thinking about this for a while, and the way I see it is: “What else is there to do except trip when you don’t have any weed?”


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Rangiku]
    #26456927 - 01/28/20 02:08 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

You could ride a bike. Have some tea. Talk to people. Dig a hole. Sleep for 15 hours. Build a snowman. Breathe. Exist.
I don't think any of those necessitate weed or tripping. But maybe that's where I've gone wrong in my life... :strokebeard2:


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    #26457316 - 01/28/20 05:51 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I smoke weed all day but, like many others, when tripping I can ride the whole thing without weed really entering my mind. Very much worth it.  Crank up the dosage some and you really won't be thinking about weed


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    #26457627 - 01/28/20 08:46 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Questions like this make me feel like all human beings do is smoke weed


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    #26457791 - 01/28/20 11:27 PM (4 years, 21 hours ago)

Those silly Humans and their weed smokin' :bongload:


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    #26458408 - 01/29/20 11:41 AM (4 years, 9 hours ago)

Who the fuck are you? the gate keeper? Shut the fuck up. We was being used in general not just the shroomery.

  Lol you seem to think because a neighbor just moved nextdoor you have some sort of seniority? Please. Many people here were deep into psychedelics before they found the shroomery. Curb that ego.

And my bad some do choose to be nannies to these children.


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    #26458414 - 01/29/20 11:47 AM (4 years, 9 hours ago)

Yeah all those activities are fun without the use of drugs.

  It's like when people take psychedelics to enhance the music but the music sounds beautiful without and the I think one should experience these things while tripping. It adds to life experience. But the core of the weed/psychedelic experience lies within your mind and no external stimuli is needed. But it's not unwelcome.


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    #26458566 - 01/29/20 01:37 PM (4 years, 7 hours ago)

I personally don’t like to trip without weed. It takes the edge off of most things for me. Including any tryptamine, phen, even coffee. It ALSO has this effect where if I took like 1 smaller lsd dose (say 60ug) or small mdma dose of also say 60-80mg, etc, it would be like lighting the fuse and the real trip would kick in. It wouldn’t feel mild anymore.

So for example one time I took a tab and I felt the come up but not much after that, and thought I didn’t have anything to smoke. But then I found just a little bit, hours later, smoked just a little, and suddenly the experience really started. The friend I was with said the same thing. Pretty spent every minute after that tripping balls.

HOWEVER with higher doses of things, I guess you don’t Need weed, like taking 150-300ug on an altoid, when it kicks in, it fucking kicks in, whether I smoked or not. But if I smoke it kicks in like right when I get high. Hopefully this could be useful to you, though everyone is different but that’s how it is for me.


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    #26458652 - 01/29/20 02:54 PM (4 years, 6 hours ago)

taking out the trash.


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    #26458815 - 01/29/20 05:14 PM (4 years, 3 hours ago)

Weed makes everything literally worse for me.  Used to love it, smoked regularly, then in my mid 20's it started making me paranoid now and then, then more frequently, now its just not worth it and I retry once a year or so and it's always the same.  Anxiety city.  Different strokes for different folks.


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    #26458837 - 01/29/20 05:36 PM (4 years, 3 hours ago)

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Weed makes everything literally worse for me.  Used to love it, smoked regularly, then in my mid 20's it started making me paranoid now and then, then more frequently, now its just not worth it and I retry once a year or so and it's always the same.  Anxiety city.  Different strokes for different folks.




Yeah I'm pretty much the same way now.

I only smoke on once in a great while -- and when I do I gotta be very careful. Less is more (much more) for me when it comes to weed. If I cross that line (and it's easy to cross) then like you it makes things worse for me.

As far as tripping with weed -- I always like to have some weed on hand as an enhancer, but again one decent pull off a bowl will keep me good for a couple of hrs easy. If I smoke too much then it could ruin my trip.


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Who the fuck are you? the gate keeper? Shut the fuck up. We was being used in general not just the shroomery.

  Lol you seem to think because a neighbor just moved nextdoor you have some sort of seniority? Please. Many people here were deep into psychedelics before they found the shroomery. Curb that ego.

And my bad some do choose to be nannies to these children.



When you come into a new community and start spewing toxicity someone in that community is bound to call you out on it and humble you.

You seem to be the one with an ego issue just by looking at how you responded to be being calmly called out on your blatant rudeness. Go eat some fruits or a few hundred mics, self reflect and come back here when you've learned a bit about yourself.


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    #26459163 - 01/29/20 08:56 PM (4 years, 12 minutes ago)

Icky. So gross.

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    #26459220 - 01/29/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

See this is why i dont frequent TPE, too much immaturity from all the new members. It seems like everyone had something positive to add except you two.


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Immature is right.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26459280 - 01/29/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Im not getting angry here im literally just standing up for myself why in the world would i let someone talk to me like that. The fact that you care enough about some other dude on the internet to be in my pm's calling me a faggot and a bunch of other shit is honestly pretty weird and suspicious :puppet:


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26459292 - 01/29/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Is tripping without crack worth it? Asking for a friend


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: dk-1]
    #26459306 - 01/29/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Nah fam


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26459326 - 01/29/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

( opens a bag of good weed )

*sniff* hmmmmmmmmmmm


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26459557 - 01/30/20 04:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

eww smells like skunk


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26459681 - 01/30/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You’re right, dude said it was supposed to smell that way.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26460004 - 01/30/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Geesh. No need for that. I know you were being really high and mighty about your seniority on the shroomery but there's no need for faggotry.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26460306 - 01/30/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Shr00mEater said:
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redgreenvines said:
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nooneman said:
I might even give up combining the two because I always seem to have a worse time after combining weed with LSD. Sure, it makes the visuals better and stronger, but I feel like it makes the overall experience worse somehow. I always expect it to improve the trip, but it seems to take it in the wrong direction for me, making things duller, simpler, less enjoyable. My mind feels fuzzier, it just isn't a good combo for me. It has taken good trips headed in good directions and made the experience highly mediocre for me at times.

The only positive thing it does do for me is dramatically increase the amount and quality of the visuals, which is hard to give up, but I'm tired of weed making my trip shitty.

I would say overall that if you take a reasonably good dose of LSD, weed will actually make it worse.



use a smaller bowl




Truth



Just as a quick follow up to this, the size of the bowl is not the problem in my case. I've smoked very small amounts, only a single hit or two from a very small amount, and had the same issue. Aside from the visuals, weed makes LSD worse for me, in any amount.


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: nooneman]
    #26460497 - 01/30/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I can hear what all you folks are saying about weed making psychedelics worse. I understand and yes I have been there. But here’s my take on it.

I got interested after listening to Terence McKenna. He rolls up “bombers” (guess he means “joints”?) while he’s coming up. When he feels the first signs, at about an hour in, he smokes his first bomber, then lies back and trips. I can’t do that anymore, or at least don’t want to. A few trips back, I’d run out of grass, so scraped the corners of my tubs out, and used the stuff at the bottom of my grinder. It was really potent weed, and caught me out. As usual, I smoked the first joint when I felt the mushrooms at about 25 mins in. It was so strong I couldn’t finish it, and the come up stopped!!! For like 2 hours. I thought the mushrooms were duff. Then the trip started; was a really weird one all the way through. Didn’t like it..

So since then I don’t smoke on the come up anymore!

But I continue to do the following, and continue to reap benefits and really enjoy. I smoke when I am firmly in the peak. Generally 2 hours after drinking Lemon Tek tea. A joint will potentiate the trip for about an hour. I roll 4!. But even then, I have to be careful. If the mushrooms and / or the weed is strong,, it can get really wild really quickly. If you stop smoking, it subsides in 5 minutes; but that can feel like a long time!

I certainly enjoy weed on mushrooms. My aim for this year is to cut out weed except for ceremonial like reasons. Which for me is while tripping.

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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26461030 - 01/30/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

lsd is spectacular (sometimes)
and weed is separately spectacular in a different way
tonight no weed, and spectacular, sparkling, fluid and real.
wish I did not have a stuffed nose and cough, but so happy to be


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26461047 - 01/30/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I almost just crave weed during a comedown on psilocybin,  but this is curbed smoking at the beginning of the trip.  If I had more patience for smoking then I would wait until the comedown which is when I start to notice my nerves reacting.  I guess it’s like coming back to reality and that weed smooths out.  I have also had trips where it was just hard to smoke


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26461429 - 01/31/20 03:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If makes you think the x was shit when people are just metaphysically not even offering you some


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26461460 - 01/31/20 03:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You should probably want to be trippin hard if you smoke weed and smoke a blunt as heavy as the pyramids


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics] * 2
    #26461644 - 01/31/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

isn't there a rule about posting pasted word salad that even the poster cannot read?


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26461792 - 01/31/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

:dafuq:

What the heck are you talking about?

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    #26462431 - 01/31/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26462787 - 01/31/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I don’t smoke blunts anymore since last year, but I want some hemp wraps which look like them.  I had some before and they have a fresh smoke imo


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: Rangiku] * 1
    #26464312 - 02/01/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Every time I go deeper than I never went before, I never want to go any less deep.  Weed pushes me deeper.  Thus I would say no.  Also, the second half of a trip ( the “afterglow) is wasted without weed


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: individualist]
    #26464354 - 02/01/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

not wasted, sometimes it is just glorious, like you deserve to feel excellent


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Re: Is tripping without weed worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26464362 - 02/01/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Every time I go deeper than I never went before, I never want to go any less deep.  Weed pushes me deeper.  Thus I would say no.  Also, the second half of a trip ( the “afterglow) is wasted without weed



So true its exactly why I smoke weed when tripping.


Im thinking about tripping tomorrow for superbowl but im supposed to be sober cause im in rehab so it kinda feels weird.


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