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    #26444151 - 01/21/20 01:06 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Could it be that we are eternal and that life is really a simulation of death.
We dive into this "simulation" so that we can gain perspective. The boundaries that life and death create could inspire aspects of eternity. Maybe we can't understand love without death.


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Re: Could it be [Re: Revelation88]
    #26444422 - 01/21/20 07:58 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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Revelation88 said:
Could it be that we are eternal and that life is really a simulation of death.
We dive into this "simulation" so that we can gain perspective. The boundaries that life and death create could inspire aspects of eternity. Maybe we can't understand love without death.




:nodofunderstanding:
Short and insightful.. LOVE is mystical.

A good simulation thread incase.


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Re: Could it be [Re: Revelation88]
    #26446046 - 01/22/20 10:24 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Revelation88 said:
Could it be that we are eternal and that life is really a simulation of death.
We dive into this "simulation" so that we can gain perspective. The boundaries that life and death create could inspire aspects of eternity. Maybe we can't understand love without death.




Sounds like reincarnation.


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Re: Could it be [Re: Revelation88]
    #26446101 - 01/22/20 10:48 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Revelation88 said:
Could it be that we are eternal and that life is really a simulation of death.
We dive into this "simulation" so that we can gain perspective. The boundaries that life and death create could inspire aspects of eternity. Maybe we can't understand love without death.




The only problem with that is if we are eternal, then death doesn't exist.


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Re: Could it be [Re: Forrester]
    #26446232 - 01/22/20 12:05 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

I remember that in the scriptures (gen) and (romans 5:12) j-man had mentioned that doesn't originally exist in a man. And there are actually two forms of it.. i was thinkering moreof transition.

thanks for mentioning the (future, past and now) on the other thread. i had a glimpse of it by reviewing my MEANING OF LIFE thread.


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Re: Could it be [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #26446345 - 01/22/20 12:55 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

That's the point i'm trying to make. If death doesn't really exist but we put ourselves in a state to believe it does than it bring more meaning to eternity.


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Re: Could it be [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #26447265 - 01/22/20 09:57 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

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I remember that in the scriptures (gen) and (romans 5:12) j-man had mentioned that doesn't originally exist in a man. And there are actually two forms of it.. i was thinkering moreof transition.

thanks for mentioning the (future, past and now) on the other thread. i had a glimpse of it by reviewing my MEANING OF LIFE thread.




I will have to read that thread when I have some time!

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That's the point i'm trying to make. If death doesn't really exist but we put ourselves in a state to believe it does than it bring more meaning to eternity.




Ah yes, that does make sense.  I didn't mean to imply anything was wrong with the way you said it before :smile:  It is curious to ponder why we have the need to make ourselves believe death is so real...
I'm not sure if eternity/God/love really NEEDS anything to bring more meaning to it, I think when experienced in it's totality it becomes clear that there isn't anything else BUT (God/love).  I agree that while here in the physical we need polarity, ie; without sadness, happiness doesn't exist - but I think it's a bit different once the veil has been lifted.  But that's just the non-dual philosophy if you believe it, there are certainly other interpretations :peace:


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Re: Could it be [Re: Revelation88]
    #26447457 - 01/23/20 12:37 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

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Could it be that we are eternal and that life is really a simulation of death.
We dive into this "simulation" so that we can gain perspective. The boundaries that life and death create could inspire aspects of eternity. Maybe we can't understand love without death.




This is probably closer to Truth than any of us can realize on this level of awareness.


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Could it be that we are eternal and that life is really a simulation of death.
We dive into this "simulation" so that we can gain perspective. The boundaries that life and death create could inspire aspects of eternity. Maybe we can't understand love without death.




The only problem with that is if we are eternal, then death doesn't exist.




Depends on where you're anchoring your perspective for the definition of that word/concept, though. Everything you ever know/think/etc. is from this locked existential frame of self-aware consciousness. Past, future, and even present are psychological concepts. All that actually "IS" is your consciousness anchored as an existential singularity.


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Re: Could it be [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26447602 - 01/23/20 04:09 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

:breakthrough:  :alphabrain:


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Re: Could it be [Re: Mr Solo Dolo]
    #26447623 - 01/23/20 04:39 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

So eternity and the soul exist forever..

Than what is death, but an intermediate state of consciousness...

The problem of being reborn..isn't that your mind loses the knowledge of your past reincarnations...But the fact that you have to be born and learn all the physical things you need to live again..like walking and talking..


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Re: Could it be [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26447634 - 01/23/20 05:00 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

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Sounds like reincarnation.




This is why resurrection is much appealing for me rather than reincarnation in a new form eg. A cow. Or other form.

Being Reborn as ourself in the middle of the crossroads with vast direction. So that we can/become master ourself with the help of GOD/UNIVERSE.


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Re: Could it be [Re: Forrester]
    #26447736 - 01/23/20 07:18 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

I agree with you.  I guess it's not that I think it brings more objective meaning. More like it brings meaning through perspective. 
The waterfall was is and always will be in it's full form of beauty. There are ways to learn to appreciate it's beauty. Its not that the waterfall is anymore beautiful it's just the perspective you have on it. 

If we never put any boundaries on eternity than it makes it easier for us to take all that eternity and oneness is for granted.

A lot of ancient philosophies have this idea of a separation from God and most of the time this is matched with negative connotations. I don't know that the "fall of man" was necessarily a bad thing. I think it's something we did on purpose. We knew that putting boundaries on ourselves would benefit us in the long run.

Just to be clear I'm not married to this whole philosophy. I think what we perceive is objective and we just have different ways of communicating our interpretations of the same thing.
I had this idea and thought maybe it would inspire and provoke some interesting thoughts in others.
Probably most of what I'm intending to communicate is being received differently by most people that read this post.

Some may not be able to get passed the idea that a simulation has something to do with computers for example so that could limit their understanding of the point I'm really trying to make.

I just wanted to maybe add some clarity to my point and elaborate a little more on my perspective. I like the ideas you guys are sharing I feel like maybe I'm not so alone in dabeling in existential philosophy.


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Re: Could it be [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26447740 - 01/23/20 07:23 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Life and death are both intermediate states(one in the same thing) from my perspective. There is only really life because there is death. True existence isn't living and dying. True existence is eternal oneness at least that's how I perceive it.
I absolutely want to continue to reiterate that I'm positive I really have no idea. Life and death are much more complex than this idea. I had but I do feel like it brings some perspective. I remember before tripping I was absolutely terrified of death. ,they say there is no death after the first.


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Re: Could it be [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26447742 - 01/23/20 07:26 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

So very eloquently written. I could not agree more.


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Re: Could it be [Re: Revelation88]
    #26449267 - 01/24/20 03:08 AM (4 years, 5 days ago)

If you think it then it will come?


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