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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tripsurfer] 2
#26532929 - 03/13/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: Here everybody panicked today. Our PM told people not to hoard. This obviously triggered massive hoarding 
Leave it to the VVD to stimulate the economy
Actually, this is a good thing, as you took that picture near closing time (I assume, for most AH's) so if they every evening clear out the whole store and every morning stock it right up again, the population is downloading supplies at maximum capacity. Its what the manager likes to see, but also, with the epidemic, its good to see that supplies are being made. The store is being utilized to full capacity to distribute groceries.
People won't eat more than they eat so, the population gets a buffer for the hard times ahead.
Groceries are USELESS boxed up in the warehouses, or even in the store, when people are so sick that going from your bed to the toilet is a journey. All that counts is that those people have it in their homes, immediately accessible.
From an efficiency standpoint empoty storeshelves near closing time are optimal.
Also reduces the number of looters, later on.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 1
#26532930 - 03/13/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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US cases over 2000 now
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 2
#26532932 - 03/13/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 1
#26532934 - 03/13/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shaking hands is fine if you wash your hands and don't touch your face. Talk to anyone who works in healthcare.
Cutting out handshakes is retarded
The risk of a handshake, though, is related to hand hygiene practices, says Lisa Maragakis, senior director of infection prevention in the Johns Hopkins Health System
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koods said: Immunity is based on the amino acid sequence in the protein coating. You don’t know what you’re talking about
Take it how you want, but many more people are recovering than dying...which obviously hints at some kind of immunity.
That might be the dumbest thing I’ve heard in this entire thread
Here’s an interview of an incredibly highly regauarded infectious disease expert don’t listen to me listen to someone that spent 30-40 years studying everything from the Spanish flu to Zica virus and some scary ones in between like SARS and MERS which are directly related. This guy predicted all of this down to the letter.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: bodhisatta] 2
#26532939 - 03/13/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Shaking hands is fine if you wash your hands and don't touch your face. Talk to anyone who works in healthcare.
Talk to anyone in healthcare around here and the FIRST thing they'll tell you is to NOT shake hands. Duh.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante]
#26532940 - 03/13/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im assuming the hoarding will continue for a few days and then slow down. People who missed out today are going to stockpile tomorrow for sure. But as houses fill up this should slow down
You dont want stores looking like this for days in a row. That will cause problems for sure
Wat that picture of massive supermarket queues in Italy posted here already?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: bodhisatta] 4
#26532945 - 03/13/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Shaking hands is fine if you wash your hands and don't touch your face. Talk to anyone who works in healthcare.
Cutting out handshakes is retarded
Why carry on a useless social ritual that requires you to desinfect your hands after during a pandemic?
You're so contrarian throughout this thread.
"spitting in their throat as a greeting is perfectly fine if you gargle with bleach after."
How about we don't
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: bodhisatta] 4
#26532947 - 03/13/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya I'm certain he went right in and washed his hands.
If you're the president of the US you should be taking every available precaution. And shaking hands is a bad idea. It's so easy to touch you face, even if you have good discipline you shake hands with 5 people an you have there germs and they have yours. If those 5 people all shake each other's hands and one is infected it's so easy to spread.
Not shaking hand isn't retarded, good lord.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#26532951 - 03/13/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: Im assuming the hoarding will continue for a few days and then slow down. People who missed out today are going to stockpile tomorrow for sure. But as houses fill up this should slow down
Definitely and thats soon enough, but then tons upon tons of storable groceries have been distributed in the community so the task will have been accomplished.
We all need a months supply any time through the year. Almost none of us did and they're now catching up.
Your posh AH (I shop there too) can always take the discounter supermarket approach of parking pallets of boxes for customers to unpack or take whole
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audiophoenix said: Ya I'm certain he went right in and washed his hands.
If you're the president of the US you should be taking every available precaution. And shaking hands is a bad idea. It's so easy to touch you face, even if you have good discipline you shake hands with 5 people an you have there germs and they have yours. If those 5 people all shake each other's hands and one is infected it's so easy to spread.
Not shaking hand isn't retarded, good lord.
Kids were ahead of this already with fistbumps replacing the traditional handshake:
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#26532962 - 03/13/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Amazing news out of Italy
If you're under 50 and have no preexisting medical conditions you have a near zero chance of dying
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: bodhisatta]
#26532973 - 03/13/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Amazing news out of Italy
If you're under 50 and have no preexisting medical conditions you have a near zero chance of dying

That's not really news, just kind of confirmation of what's been said.
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It's also a reason for pretty much the whole of our community here, and for the vast majority of people, to stop bloody panicking.
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This store is the closest grocery store to The National Insitutes of Health. A lot of the people in this neighborhood work there.
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@koods-Some people's MHC genes will be better at creating an acquired immunity than others though, which is partially due to inheritance.
You're right, the major concern with the avian/swine flus was that they were zoonotic, and were able to evolve outside a human population.
Is it really known if this is was strictly animal virus that suddenly mutated to infect humans? Seems like it could have been passed back and forth too, since we are susceptible to coronaviruses already. My understanding is that even experts on infectious disease still have questions about the origins of covid19...
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audiophoenix said: That's not really news, just kind of confirmation of what's been said.
It's also a reason for pretty much the whole of our community here, and for the vast majority of people, to stop bloody panicking.
I don't think anyone here is afraid of dieing from the virus. I mean some are, but most are afraid of an extended halt on trade and commerce that brings us goods and provides our stable lifestyle we have become accustomed to.
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I mean, I'm pretty sure the deal is that most of us know someone over 50 with a preexisting condition that we would prefer not die because some other people couldn't bear to stop shaking hands for a month or stay a couple feet away from people as often as possible
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: ballsalsa] 3
#26533027 - 03/13/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: I mean, I'm pretty sure the deal is that most of us know someone over 50 with a preexisting condition that we would prefer not die because some other people couldn't bear to stop shaking hands for a month or stay a couple feet away from people as often as possible
That too. Or under 50 with medical conditions. There's so many people kept alive by modern medicine
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: ballsalsa]
#26533030 - 03/13/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The panic is the most detrimental, watch people getting injured and killed because of this fear and panic
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ballsalsa said: I mean, I'm pretty sure the deal is that most of us know someone over 50 with a preexisting condition that we would prefer not die because some other people couldn't bear to stop shaking hands for a month or stay a couple feet away from people as often as possible
The cumulative risk of death % by any means to those individuals 50+ with existing conditions. I would wager is insignificantly changed by this.
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