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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: trees]
#26893433 - 08/22/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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trees said: I need a good at home remedy for corona, i might have it atm. Not dying but lungs amd throat suffering this week, hurts to smoke weed 
Drink water and go outside.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26893444 - 08/22/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Truly effective antiviral drugs are extremely rare.Quote:
Doc9151 said: I did not say that all doctors are criminal, you just said that. I said that they are not above committing fraud, you said that doctors and nurses wouldn't risk their licenses and I said that they do it every day. That is the jist of that conversation. Since then, several others have tried to defend your position. I did say that the fraudsters are stealing covid19 funds and that will come out time, wait and see. My whole point is that when 3 Trillion dollars in federal funding is pumped into any disaster the theives are in midst. This all started because:
1. Several of you decided that you didn't appreciate my comments about unscrupulous doctors and decided to defend something you are either blind too, know nothing about or just talking shit.
2. My initial comment was on articles in local newspapers, i posted a link from one that gave the price as ranging from $12,000 to 132 000,yes. I was wrong when I said it was 14,000-132,00.
Why do you think fraud isn't happening? I don't understand why you all are so upset that I'm pointing out something that is definitely happening. I understand that you guys working on the Frontline are having a hard time, but come on, you are obviously either so dedicated that you are blinded by what is going on, you know but don't think its as big as it really is or you're part of the problem.
I don’t think anyone is saying fraud isn’t happening. What I’ve heard is people saying that you can’t simply assume it’s happening because it’s possible. It’s like saying you’re guilty of murder because you have the capability to murder. The real question is whether there is fraud on a level that significantly skews the data. There no evidence of this at all.
Wait and see, the data is still being collected, the audit is still to come. I'm not the only one out there saying this happening. I'm going off what I already know about the system. why would this situation be any different?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Shroomhunts] 1
#26893485 - 08/22/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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trees said: I need a good at home remedy for corona, i might have it atm. Not dying but lungs amd throat suffering this week, hurts to smoke weed 
Drink water and go outside.
And stay away from other people
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: trees]
#26893503 - 08/22/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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trees said: I need a good at home remedy for corona, i might have it atm. Not dying but lungs amd throat suffering this week, hurts to smoke weed 
Drinks hot liquids, and eat a lot of fresh fruit, and vegetables.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: 1234go] 2
#26893567 - 08/22/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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even if you don't have covid, this is a good time to make some edibles and stop smoking for a while
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 2
#26893632 - 08/22/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Truly effective antiviral drugs are extremely rare.Quote:
Doc9151 said: I did not say that all doctors are criminal, you just said that. I said that they are not above committing fraud, you said that doctors and nurses wouldn't risk their licenses and I said that they do it every day. That is the jist of that conversation. Since then, several others have tried to defend your position. I did say that the fraudsters are stealing covid19 funds and that will come out time, wait and see. My whole point is that when 3 Trillion dollars in federal funding is pumped into any disaster the theives are in midst. This all started because:
1. Several of you decided that you didn't appreciate my comments about unscrupulous doctors and decided to defend something you are either blind too, know nothing about or just talking shit.
2. My initial comment was on articles in local newspapers, i posted a link from one that gave the price as ranging from $12,000 to 132 000,yes. I was wrong when I said it was 14,000-132,00.
Why do you think fraud isn't happening? I don't understand why you all are so upset that I'm pointing out something that is definitely happening. I understand that you guys working on the Frontline are having a hard time, but come on, you are obviously either so dedicated that you are blinded by what is going on, you know but don't think its as big as it really is or you're part of the problem.
I don’t think anyone is saying fraud isn’t happening. What I’ve heard is people saying that you can’t simply assume it’s happening because it’s possible. It’s like saying you’re guilty of murder because you have the capability to murder. The real question is whether there is fraud on a level that significantly skews the data. There no evidence of this at all.
We have said repeatedly and very explicitly that healthcare fraud happens. If you put out an idea, you can't be upset when people say "Yeah I don't agree with that, what are your reasons for believing it?
I went for a swim and thought this up..
How Doc Apparently Thinks the History of People Changing their Minds Looks
Plato, speaking at an open forum in Ancient Greece: "So hey guys I think all this apparent physical stuff just like a bunch of shadow versions of the true version of each kind of that stuff in another realm."
Ancient Greeks, gesturing at their eyes and ears: yeah that doesn't seem intuitive to me at all based on my experience. Kinda just seems like the stuff I experience is the only stuff there is. what makes ya think this stuff I experience is less real than this other stuff you just came up with?
Plato, speaking to Ancient Greeks and immediately losing his patiece while vigorously gesturing around at nothing in particular, and then at things that dont make his counterintuitive claims any less counterintuitive to other people: OMG do yall really need me to hold your hand and walk you through this? Do your own homework, jesus.
Ancient Greeks, bowing down to Plato in reverence: OMG plato not only are you entitled to just come into the public forum and proclaim ideas that are totally counterintuitive to us without expecting to be challenged on them but, like, since you were so incredibly smart and convincing when you said it we are totally gonna gonna make sure people remember and talk about how smart and convincing you were when you said them
An actual history of how people's minds get changed in the real world:
Morrowasted, proclaiming an idea in an open forum: well at least this virus will probably go away in the summer here in houston since other common respiratory viruses seem to follow a seasonal pattern and therefore they probably dont do well in hot and humid clients
Koods, gesturing to various statistics about the expanding rates of said virus in some of the hottest and humid clients in the USA like lousiana and Florida: IDK morrowasted it kinda seems like you might be wrong because of this specific evidence
Morrowasted, stubbornly whistling in the dark, looking for any reason at all not to believe it: IDK koods I still think Texas is gonna be the exception b/c it's only probably only that bad in florida and lousiana because of mardi gras and spring break partiers
Mid June-July, massive undeniable explosion of covid patients sick and dying making the truth impossible to avoid: Here ya go
Morrowasted, to grumbling to self, not even giving koods the satisfaction of winning the argument until weeks later during a guilt-ridden trip full of self-reflection in which he realizes his ideas may have been damaging to public perception: well damn, I guess I was wrong
Long story short dude you totally might be right but you haven't presented anything compelling. Just don't take it personally when people don't just read your ideas and accept them straight away, particularly when you can't straightforwardly answer the questions they have about those ideas. We argue here. We have opinions. I'm used to having people try to tell me mine suck. Sometimes they do suck. Sometimes they don't. No hard feelings.
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To be fair koods wasn't exactly right see this is the problem with u people. You move goal post so much everyone forgets. I mean Dr Fauci was wrong at every turn except for maybe the mask thing. But he's the last word in epidemiology now and hailed as some genius hero.
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He seems pretty right from where I am sitting. I went from having literally no covid patients to having virtually all covid patients in the time between when I made the original comment, which was probably in March, and mid July
haven't had a single flu case since like february either
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Shroomhunts said: Hospitals are businesses that profit from sick people. Effective healthcare is the opposite of profitable healthcare.
there are 2,937 not for profit community hospitals in the USA
there are 1,296 for profit, investor-owned hospitals in the USA
there are definitely differences between them. when the pandemic hit, staff at for profit hospitals got absolutely shafted on PPE. the staff who work there still want the patients to recover
this isn't a perfect system by any means but most doctors and nurses care about people and want sick people to get well
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big pharma is definitely shady though
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morrowasted said:
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Shroomhunts said: Hospitals are businesses that profit from sick people. Effective healthcare is the opposite of profitable healthcare.
there are 2,937 not for profit community hospitals in the USA
there are 1,296 for profit, investor-owned hospitals in the USA
there are definitely differences between them. when the pandemic hit, staff at for profit hospitals got absolutely shafted on PPE. the staff who work there still want the patients to recover
this isn't a perfect system by any means but most doctors and nurses care about people and want sick people to get well
You know that there is quite a list of nurses and doctors who turned out to be serial killers. Those are just the ones who get caught.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: budmanman]
#26894153 - 08/22/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol, ok
you caught us
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: gopher]
#26894155 - 08/22/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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gopher said: big pharma is definitely shady though
some pharma companies are shady and some are not. there are people shelling out a lot of their personal money to develop drugs that will almost certainly never turn a profit just because they are important to develop. and there are other people re-packaging the same old bullshit into new formulations and trying to act like it's a brand new drug so they can turn a profit. it's probably true that the more profitable ones tend to do shadier bullshit than the less profitable ones but that is really just a function of the market and the lack of regulations around the industry
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: trees]
#26894310 - 08/22/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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trees said: I need a good at home remedy for corona, i might have it atm. Not dying but lungs amd throat suffering this week, hurts to smoke weed 
besides stop smoking weed, as already mentioned (lol), zinc lozenges. make sure they have around 20-25 mg per lozenge or so from what i recall, and take one every few hours. you don't want some wishy-washy zinc lozenge with like 3-5 mg in it - those are worthless. and you must. suck. on it. you can't cheat and just chew it down then get it over with. the point is to slowly coat your throat with the ions.
and the faster you do this, the sooner you take them as soon as you start feeling the symptoms of the cold, the more effective it is at helping. it reduces the severity and duration of colds by about a third on average, (so a couple of days usually) but it works its magic best if you catch it early.
side effects may possibly include a bit of nausea (best to take with a bit of a snack beforehand to help keep your stomach settled if possible, but you want to avoid drinking or eating anything after for a lil while to keep the ions coating your throat), or more often, a burning desire to not take it because zinc lozenges tend to be gritty and slightly unpleasant tasting. :P this is also not really a preventative medicine, just a treatment. don't go sucking on them every day to prevent coronavirus - it really is too much zinc to take for everyday dosing, just for fighting an infection if you have one. it's fine for several days, but if you were to take that much for weeks on end you'd suffer from copper deficiency i think.
i've taken zinc lozenges several times before whenever i've had a cold or flu and they really do work - usually i suffer a week and a half or so of coughing and misery, itchy eyes and sneezing and all around suffering. with them though, the symptoms are drastically reduced to mild coughing and sneezing, a mild headache, and i usually feel almost better within about 4-5 days, and back to myself within a week. way better use of my money than any cough syrups, though delsym is helpful too.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Psion] 1
#26894344 - 08/22/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I heard zinc makes you nut more
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Shroomhunts] 1
#26894505 - 08/22/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just a reminder that we funded the wuhan CDC and the WIV and it coulda been the US that leaked it.
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I'm restocking my freezer to full capacity, 25 lbs of oatmeal will be dumped in the oatmeal vat, rice, lentils, quinoa, freezedried veggie mix and egg powder are stocked to capacity, got my tomato concentrate, tuna, instant mashed potato, unsweetened applesauce portions, sugarfree cough lozenges, acetaminophen, my oils and butters.. BRING ON THE SECOND WAVE.

The Second Wave, brought to you courtesy of ICU Code Black, Mass Graves, Its Not Going To Be So Bad Asante but with 90% extra Fuck You It Will Be 
Society will go on.
There will be electricity, water and gas.
Stores will for the most part be supplied but it will not be advisable to visit them.
Its going to be an "interesting TV" fall, a "holy shit I never thought it would be anything like THIS" fall, an "Emergency Lockdown" fall, "Biohazard Suit" fall and an "I hope I nor my loved ones will fall" fall.
Be prepared.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante]
#26895257 - 08/23/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinda sad talking to the old people that haven't been outside in 4 months. lot of them fear for their lives.
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if anything its the stock market creating the second wave for record profits
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