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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: mushboy] 2
#26892253 - 08/21/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll never understand how people can understand perfectly well that viruses can spread easily and kill people, we watched this virus spread easily and kill people in Europe and China, but the second it starts spreading easily and killing people in America people just lose their fucking mind and go whole hog into denial trying to convince anyone they can that it's a liberal hoax or whatever.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
#26892258 - 08/21/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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feevers said: I'll never understand how people can understand perfectly well that viruses can spread easily and kill people, we watched this virus spread easily and kill people in Europe and China, but the second it starts spreading easily and killing people in America people just lose their fucking mind and go whole hog into denial trying to convince anyone they can that it's a liberal hoax or whatever.
This is the first time they've lived through a viral pandemic that's affected society this much. It's presumably affecting them in some undesirable way, so they have psychological reasons for coming up with stories about why things don't "need to be" affecting them negatively as much as they are. They want to believe that their suffering is due to the malice and incompetence of other people, because then if you can just figure out who those people are and what they're doing wrong, they won't have to suffer in this way anymore. This is my guess.
In truth, viral pandemics are a fact of nature just like fires and hurricanes, and we've been lucky to have stopped as many in their tracks as we have prior to this one. Up until the last century, pandemics that wiped out 20%-30% of the entire population of continents happened on a regular basis, and the only reason they didn't wipe out 20-30% of the world population was that intercontinental travel wasn't as common.
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morrowasted said: First, tell me how you think a doctor goes about committing medicare fraud. What, specifically, do they do? Now explain to me how you think those things that they do in order to commit fraud are occurring specifically within the context of caring for covid patients.
i didnt say all that i was just agreeing and expanding on a point about how fraud and corruption are rampant. especially when the federal govt is involved. especially now.
youre referring to the hospital like 'the church'. its creepy. im just agreeing that people within our beloved systems rip it off and are evil assholes.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: gopher]
#26892266 - 08/21/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doctors round her running fuckin pill mills. Wrighting scripts to the junkies that get free meds from the Gov then they go sell em and buy crack.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: mushboy]
#26892269 - 08/21/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: First, tell me how you think a doctor goes about committing medicare fraud. What, specifically, do they do? Now explain to me how you think those things that they do in order to commit fraud are occurring specifically within the context of caring for covid patients.
i didnt say all that i was just agreeing and expanding on a point about how fraud and corruption are rampant. especially when the federal govt is involved. especially now.
youre referring to the hospital like the church. its creepy. im just agreeing that people within our beloved systems rip it off and are evil assholes.
We've already established that "Fraud exists, therefore specific type of fraud X is definitely happening" isn't a valid argument. Multiple times.
I would counter that you all are acting as though hospitals are maliciously trying to gobble up as much money as they can, even if it means blatantly mistreating and lying to patients, employees, and the public. There are undoubtedly individual people who take advantage of their positions for personal gain, but the idea that it's "standard practice" for hospitals to make as much money as possible at the expense of the health of patients and employees alike is absurd. There are investors who probably don't give a shit, but they get pushback from the staff- we do give a shit. They can't just get away with anything and everything. I work for a nonprofit hospital, and part of training for ALL STAFF includes how to detect and report fraud.
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Shroomhunts said: Doctors round her running fuckin pill mills. Wrighting scripts to the junkies that get free meds from the Gov then they go sell em and buy crack.
That is an extremely small percentage of doctors. Pain management is one field of medicine that attracts bad actors. Another one is endocrinology. Ironically, one of the doctors HamHead loves to cite with his alternative-medicine covid youtube videos is both a pain management and endocrinology doctor. Docs working in hospitals don't make money in the same way that those clinicians do.
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we have??
dude relax im not on this threads pulse.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: mushboy] 1
#26892286 - 08/21/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushboy said: we have??
dude relax im not on this threads pulse.
I am relaxed. The fact that I'm not just saying "ya mean who knows ur probably right" doesn't mean I'm not relaxed. It just means I have some free time and I'm willing to explain what I see as being the truth. Don't take it personally. Nothing I post in here is about "proving people wrong" or "making people feel stupid", I just happen to have a perspective on this issue that I believe is reasonably well substantiated, and sometimes I have enough time to explain that substance.
but yes, we have established it.
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i think some of you guys need a hobby
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: mushboy] 2
#26892300 - 08/21/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i think some of you guys need a hobby
I'm capable of doing more than one thing. I actually have quite a few hobbies, you can find me posting in gardening discussion threads, bodybuilding threads.
If that's the kind of thing you are passionate about and feel like an authority on relative to most of the people on this form, by all means, talk to people about it. Share your views. I've learned as much as I care to learn about that topic for my purposes.
The kind of thing I am passionate about and feel like an authority on relative to most of the people on this forum is how hospitals treat COVID patients. So I talk to people about it.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: mushboy] 3
#26892319 - 08/21/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Imagine, if you will, that growing mushrooms suddenly became an inescapable aspect of living.
Suddenly, everyone has an opinion about growing mushrooms. They're sharing those opinions. A person you've never seen posting in Mush Cult starts making a new thread every other day containing controversial ideas about the best way to grow mushrooms (see HamHead).
You've been at it for quite some time. You think that many of the opinions these new growers don't make a lot of sense.
Since you can't stop people from taking an interest in growing mushrooms because it's now an aspect of existence they can't totally escape, you try to take the time to explain what you believe you've learned over the years, in order to help the people with the opinions that don't make sense understand why they don't make sense.
This is essentially the position I find myself in.
Peace
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I'm way more of an asshole about it tho because I've been at it longer and I'm more jaded.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Doc9151] 1
#26892340 - 08/21/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said: Here a link that gives an idea of the price being charged. keep in mind, this only for the test, doesn't matter if its positive or not. This price doesn't count all the other cost facilities can add.
Medicare is the only one with fixed pricing, for some its set by their insurance and the uninsured get fucked.
I really don't care if you believe me or not, it's a fact that the system is being extorted. robbed, whatever you want to call it.
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-test-prices-and-payment-policy/
edit: Those prices are only from 79 facilities that reported. It all depends upon how bill8ng writes it up and you can bet your ass that they will maximize profits
What exactly is the problem? Aside from the federal mandate that insurance plans cover the cost Of testing, there’s nothing weird about providers charging for testing. How is this a conspiracy?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26892374 - 08/21/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bruh I had a spiritual connection with that frog. the fuck.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26892418 - 08/21/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think my oxygen is a little low, but I forget the number, even in highschool we had firefighters do a visit and they took our oxygen and they asked me if im a smoker, I said no but was in denile, I put a ton of tobacco in my pot like all day everyday
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers] 1
#26892431 - 08/21/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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feevers said: I'll never understand how people can understand perfectly well that viruses can spread easily and kill people, we watched this virus spread easily and kill people in Europe and China, but the second it starts spreading easily and killing people in America people just lose their fucking mind and go whole hog into denial trying to convince anyone they can that it's a liberal hoax or whatever.
Because trust in science has eroded thanks to our failed education system.
It seemed pretty black and white eazy peazy to me. Soon as it started to spread I said to myself "good thing I like sitting at home playing on my PC all day already" and locked the fuck down. lmao.
Stupidity will always be the downfall of our species.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: mndfreeze]
#26892457 - 08/21/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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you cant trust in science when you dont know it
most science is bought and paid for anyway, scientists only get rich if they keep their mouth shut and study how to extract resources.
'science' is mostly used for evil, like creating viruses and sucking oil.
most have no morals and especially no back bone, you have to be a complete sell out if you want to get anywhere.
its the universities playing middle man for corporate jobs
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: mndfreeze]
#26892460 - 08/21/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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feevers said: I'll never understand how people can understand perfectly well that viruses can spread easily and kill people, we watched this virus spread easily and kill people in Europe and China, but the second it starts spreading easily and killing people in America people just lose their fucking mind and go whole hog into denial trying to convince anyone they can that it's a liberal hoax or whatever.
Because trust in science has eroded thanks to our failed education system.
It seemed pretty black and white eazy peazy to me. Soon as it started to spread I said to myself "good thing I like sitting at home playing on my PC all day already" and locked the fuck down. lmao.
Stupidity will always be the downfall of our species.
So do you just print your own money?
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