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koods said: ( on 07/02/20 ) Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain attended the Trump rally in Tulsa 12 days ago. Today he was admitted to the hospital with covid. 12 days is the sweet spot for time from infection to hospitalization...
"Herman Cain, a former Republican presidential candidate, died at age 74 from COVID-19 complications, a spokesperson confirmed on Thursday..."https://thehill.com/homenews/news/509761-herman-cain-dies-at-74-from-covid-19-complications
Dumbass should have just worn a mask.  I wonder how many other people he poisoned with his Covid breath.
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Imagine dying because you chose to go to a pep rally for a slumlord reality TV host during a viral pandemic
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Friend in icu has been put on a ventilator
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: vinsue]
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Wow
What an idiot. That guy was still tweeting about not wearing a mask on his death bed
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Is he a coworker? Something like 25% of new cases are healthcare workers
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Sorry to hear that Morrowasted, that is very dire. I hope he'll pull through
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
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Is he a coworker? Something like 25% of new cases are healthcare workers
No, a family friend ever since... well, before I was born. We would go to one anothers' family gatherings and so forth. His wife caught it too but thus far is asymptomatic. He has an ICD and heart failure though. in his mid 70s. I doubt he is gonna pull through. my parents are really torn up about it
In my sisters' facility the workers are catching it left and right but most aren't getting sick. for the most part they're just finding out they have it during the weekly testing and never would otherwise have known. She works for a shitty for-profit system with that doesn't supply the workers with the right PPE. They've been using those same shitty KN95s that were posted here. The facility is now paying the price as more and more patients and workers are catching it.
Where I'm at not as many workers seem to be catching it. Back towards the beginning someone where I work landed in the same ICU he works in but that was back when stringent protocols weren't in place. Now we all have custom fitted N95s + surgical mask, face shields, full gowns, double gloves, shoe protectors, hair nets.
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https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/houston-texas-covid-coronavirus-workers-health-15443477.php
COVID taking emotional, physical toll on Houston health care workers
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As a nurse, LaTonya Rafe has developed a sense of knowing when death is closing in. She felt it the moment she walked into the room of one of her favorite COVID-19 patients, the one she was sure would beat the virus overtaking her small Houston hospital.
Not him, too, she thought. The team at United Memorial Medical Center rushed in to try to save the Hispanic man in his 60s as his blood pressure dropped. Their hospital is ground zero in Acres Homes, one of the city’s hardest-hit neigbhorhoods. Rafe speaks no Spanish, her patient spoke no English. She worried he would be frightened, so she scrolled through her phone to find Spanish-language ballads on YouTube to calm him. She stroked his hand because no family was there.
“Friend,” she said, “I brought you as far as I can take you. It’s OK to let go.”
Time of death: 4:16 p.m. July 15. On that same day, Texas shattered a record for new cases of COVID-19, rising nearly 11,000 in a single day. More than 10,000 were hospitalized statewide. In the Houston region that day, the overall death count was 1,391, according to a Houston Chronicle analysis of state data. By Wednesday, the number of deaths had climbed to 1,570.
“It is relentless,” said Rafe. June was worse than May, July worse than June. The 50-year-old veteran nurse wept last week for the first time for the patient she lost the week before, finally allowing herself to grieve. “I’m just so, so tired.”
Nearly five months into this health crisis, another, more hidden toll is emerging as those on its front line are becoming exhausted, overworked and overwhelmed both physically and emotionally.
The strain has hit everyone up and down the medical chain in hospitals, from doctors to support staff. They all say they feel it, disheartened by a pandemic with no finish line. Often, though, the brunt is being borne most by the hands-on workers, those who hover after the doctor has left the room, monitoring conditions, administering medication, stepping in as surrogate family.
Nursing shifts are sometimes stretching 17 hours or longer with few if any days off because there are often not enough staff at some facilities to relieve them.
Fear of bringing the virus home to family or falling sick themselves is a constant. At Harris Health System, for instance, which operates the city’s two safety-net hospitals, just over 5 percent of the nearly 9,000 overall employees have tested positive since the beginning of the pandemic, officials there said.
At United Memorial, an intensive care unit nurse was recently hospitalized in her own unit after falling critically ill.
The unpredictability of a disease that can worsen without warning requires heightened vigilance, and that leads to a continuous reshuffling of resources — be they in beds, protective equipment or people. There were nursing shortages before the crisis, health officials said, and the pandemic has only sharpened them.
“We play this game of musical chairs where you never get to sit down,” said Roberta Schwartz, executive vice president and chief innovation officer at Houston Methodist.
In May, she said her hospital’s flagship location in the Texas Medical Center had two units devoted to COVID-19 patients. Now there are 10 with 30 beds each.
There is concern that the unyielding pressure may leave scars even within a profession where long hours and high stress come with the territory.
“It’s traumatic,” said Cindy Zolnierek, CEO of Texas Nurses Association. “It’s like white-knuckle driving all the time.”
In the past three weeks, the Texas Department of State Health Services has made 750 contract nurses available to hospitals in the region to help fill staffing gaps, said Darrell Pile, CEO of the Southeast Texas Regional Advisory Council, which coordinates the region’s emergency medical responses, including during Hurricane Harvey.
“I’ve never known of a situation where that volume of nurses has been needed,” he said.
The U.S. Army also recently sent a specialty medical unit of about 85 doctors, nurses and other health care workers to Houston to set up in an empty wing of United Memorial to help take transfers from other hospitals in the city. The Army has provided few other details about its Houston relief operation.
Dr. Joseph Varon, chief medical officer at United Memorial, said that while he welcomes the reinforcements, he worries it still might not be enough.
As of Wednesday Varon had worked 132 days straight.
“I’m living on adrenaline,” he said, “and running on fumes.”
In recent days, Houston medical officials have reported glimmers of stabilization as the number of new cases statewide have showed a marked decrease. So, too, have reported hospitalizations. The word “plateau” has entered the conversation, just as it did in April.
But health officials warn even a flattened mountaintop is still high.
“This virus is still fiercely among us and remains at once-unthinkable levels,” said Pile, cautioning against any overly optimistic assessment that some corner has been turned.
He worries that if people let their guard down, even a little, the worst could come roaring back.
“Everyone remains a potential COVID victim,” he said.
For instance, internal SETRAC counts, shared with the Chronicle, show that as of Wednesday, even as number of hospitalizations were starting to go down, there were still 144 patients in the region waiting for a hospital bed, including 28 who needed intensive care. Those patients presumably were stuck in hospital emergency rooms, in hallways, or in special isolated areas, waiting for specialized care, Pile said. It is unknown how many of those may be infected with the virus, a SETRAC official said.
Since the start of the summer surge in Texas, there has been growing concern among front-line medical workers and public health officials that the publicly reported “available” beds sounds reassuring but is potentially misleading.
On Wednesday, the Texas Department of State Health Services listed on its website just over 12,200 available beds statewide. Similarly, Texas Medical Center data, compiled from area hospitals with headquarters in the city’s medical complex, showed that as of Wednesday there were slightly more than 2,700 “available (unused) beds.”
“But just because you have a bed does not mean you have the staff, or the right staffing, for it,” said Dr. Esmaeil Porsa, CEO of Harris Health System, which includes Ben Taub Hospital and Lyndon B. Johnson Hospital. “All beds are not created equal.”
An ICU patient requires more medical technology and specially trained staff. Generally, the standard is a 1-to1 or 1-to-2 nurse-to-patient ratio. In other COVID acute care units, one nurse now cares for up to six patients, depending on the seriousness of the case.
Lately, though, as ICUs have reached or even topped their capacity to take COVID patients, some who might otherwise be admitted to intensive care are instead placed in other units.
“These ‘non-ICU’ beds are equipped with monitors, supplies, and other resources needed; however, they aren’t designed for the level of monitoring required by the sickest patients,” said Zolnierek at the Texas Nurses Association. “It is a less-than-ideal environment, but nurses are making it work — they have to.”
Zolnierek called it “meaningless” to count how many beds potentially can be pressed into service without also addressing staffing.
One Houston nurse put it this way in a now-deleted social media post: “We only have the nurses we have,” she wrote. “It’s like opening up 3 extra lanes at the grocery store but with no cashiers.”
Chris Van Deusen, director of media relations for DSHS, said last week his agency had no plans to change the way available beds are reported to the public.
Reji Cherian, a respiratory therapist at United Memorial, and his 17-year-old son have been living on separate floors in the same house since March out of fear the infection will follow him home. Sleep remains elusive, maybe four to five hours at best, he said. He has noticed a short temper that was not there before, and even when he is home he can’t seem to turn off what is happening at the hospital.
The hardest part is there is no end in sight.
In the beginning of the pandemic, the tributes to health care workers were effusive, from the nightly applause in New York City to the flood of television commercials honoring warriors doing battle. Now, nearly five months in, that adoration seems to have waned.
“During the initial surge, everybody loved health care workers,” said Schwartz at Houston Methodist. “That was the sprint, but that doesn’t last for the marathon.”
Zolnierek said the trees in her Austin neighborhood were once covered in white ribbons. Those are now gone.
Christina Mathers, a nurse at United Memorial, said she was recently photographed for NBC News during a 14-hour shift, crouched in front of a portable air conditioner, exhausted and drenched in sweat under layers of protective clothing. When the picture began circulating on the network’s Twitter account, some mocked the severity of the virus and accused her of staging the picture, one person even speculating she was merely tired from making TikTok dance videos.
Pace yourself. Get sleep. Eat well. Take vitamins. That is the advice Kelly Rodrigue gives to the nurses in their huddles at the beginning and end of shifts. The clinical nurse and interim director of emergency services at Memorial Hermann The Woodlands Medical Center sees the toll on her staff - and herself.
“I tell them every day we will be dealing with this for a long time,” she said. “I tell them they are no good to our patients if they are not well themselves.”
What haunts them most are the deaths.
Unlike patients who were sick for a long time and death was probable, these deaths are often jarring, now striking young adults and the middle-aged who days or even hours before were walking and talking.
When a patient dies, Rodrigue said, everyone in the room stops and falls silent. They call it a sacred pause. But then they close the door and move on.
Other patients are waiting.
I feel very lucky our hospital has been able to contract with travel nurse agencies to keep staff numbers up. Even so, it's getting to be very taxing. I was looking around at jobs and apparently you can make $25/hr doing nothing but covid testing for the county. You have to stand out in the heat all day but I'm seriously considering it. I would really guilty about walking away. But I might
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26853823 - 07/30/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Talking about hippocrat bullshit here.
Yesterday, You, Morrowasted: Get out of the armchair on to the work!
Today: This is hard, I think I quit.
Serious dude?
Can somebody please quote this if i´m on ignore.
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Dude just go away
Nobody likes you
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: budmanman]
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Gorlax said: Well the source of COVID-19 actually is very important.
I can't see why the source is important in anything you say after this.
The source doesn't seem to be very important in all the other pandemics in history, so why this one?
Every outbreak we find or try to find patient zero. It is literally important in every other pandemic in history lol.
Historically the worst super spreaders have come after the initial outbreak, much like Typhoid Mary. She infected massive amounts of people with typhoid through cooking. Should be fired at one job quarantine for a while and then go back to cooking again each time infecting mass amounts of people. In that context I feel patient zero isn't nearly as important as the people like typhoid Mary that made a horrible situation worse. Now we have 30% of the country being typhoid Mary's because of undying loyalty to Trump over humanity. I guarantee if Trump would've encouraged his supporters to wear masks from the beginning it wouldn't be as catastrophic as it is now and his supporters would've gladly worn maga masks
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26853871 - 07/30/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL @ lenningrads shilling bullying
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: cannabinated] 1
#26853879 - 07/30/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just gonna go on record saying I'm glad I took mushboy's advice and put LG on ignore
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: morrowasted] 6
#26853909 - 07/30/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am just mentioning that I don't really know anyone who likes a fight more than me, but I m very uncomfortable reading "haha die covid breath" and "my friends are dying of covid" in the same thread.
If *I* can stfu, it can't be that hard for the rest of you. I won't be back in this thread, and I won't ever think many of you are decent human beings again either. Certain of you are fake assholes, who only want peace in the world if it comes by getting everything you want 100% of the time.
I sincerely and deeply apologize to anyone who needed to share their fears, grief, or covid stories, who saw me spewing shit all over the thread.
I love and pray for everyone, even the ones I just called indecent. I recently lost a loved one, my wife, and not to Covid, but if anyone feels I might be able to offer them something from my experience with death, my inbox is open. Even if I don't have insight, I have compassion.
Covid will go away, but how you treated others during this time will be a scar you'll always carry.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Srirachi]
#26853941 - 07/30/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: cannabinated] 4
#26854109 - 07/30/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MODERATION NOTICE:
One of the mission statements of the Shroomery is to stop the spread of dangerous misinformation. Initially this pertained to the substances we voluntarily put into our bodies, but COVID-19 is something that may involuntarily end up in the bodies of our members and their loved ones.
The media are a mess of propaganda and the Internet is a jungle which someone not versed in medical lingo and medical principles can easily get lost in.
Because some Shroomerites depend on this thread to help them make sense of the actual situation and what best to do - we will moderate this thread more strictly now and will issue post deny's to the more disruptive members.
Its OK to differ in opinion but we must ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION here.
The preferred moderating action will be a Post Deny for repeat offenders.
This very important and initially highly information dense thread is devolving into a dumpster fire, to the detriment of all who have a vested interest in this thread to be a collective voice of reason in making sense of what to do in these times.
Lets drop the offtopic, the conspiracy theories and the assigning of blame and focus on purifying our understanding, each by interacting with those voices in the discussion we have confidence in.
This thread may SHORTEN THE R.I.P THREAD OF 2021.
Let's NOT mess that up.

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#26854252 - 07/30/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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herman cain deserved it
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Srirachi] 4
#26855380 - 07/31/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Srirachi said: I am just mentioning that I don't really know anyone who likes a fight more than me, but I m very uncomfortable reading "haha die covid breath" and "my friends are dying of covid" in the same thread.
When I was a kid and adults would always talk about how politics are nasty and vile, and how it's always best to avoid discussing politics -- even with friends and family, I never really understood what was so bad about it.
Now I do.
Seeing both political bases openly root for each other to die...really in general, but particularly when it comes to this pandemic, it really has revealed and unmasked just how many sick and twisted individuals we have in this country.
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