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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: vinsue] 1
#26829086 - 07/17/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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TOLD U SO
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
#26829164 - 07/17/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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When the crisis is caused by politics....
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
#26829231 - 07/17/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Earlier today I was at the airport and I’m happy to say that 9/10 people were wearing masks 🎭. However, one mask-less lady became belligerent with the staff to the point that she had to be escorted out of the airport in handcuffs...(NC, USA)
Also, apparently anyone coming into Puerto Rico is required to do a 14 day quarantine or have documentation proving ones test results as pos/neg.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass] 3
#26829338 - 07/17/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26829565 - 07/17/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/news/20190411/cdc-americans-are-dying-from-kratom-overdoses#5
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In extreme cases, kratom overdose can put a person into a coma, stop their breathing or cause kidney failure.
Were you taking kratom? Maybe a high dose plus strep?
kinda off topic to respond to this in this thread,and im a little late cause I havnt checked this thread in a couple days, but kratom in no way did this too him, I dont even care if he took 100 grams, webmd is full of shit, kratom has killed about as many people as weed has, if you check out the statistics they are severely skewed, one guy was shot in the chest and they found kratom in his system and it was officially listed as a kratom death, and it says kratom can affect breathing, which it cant do, now dont quote me on this since its been about a year since I read the science, but if I recall correctly opiates affect breathing through b-arrestin, and kratom dosnt affect b-arrestin at all
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I found something, coming from the guy who knows the most about kratom on reddit, for what thats worth
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In addition, kratom contains multiple types of compounds that are known to inhibit tolerance to mu opioid receptor agonists. Unlike classic opioids, mitragynine doesn't recruit b-arrestin, which in addition to playing a role in some of classic opioids side effects such as respiratory depression, also plays a role in tolerance. Mice who are unable to produce b-arrestin don't develop tolerance to morphine. When mitragynine is co-administered with morphine, it prevents tolerance to morphine. Given all of this, it's possible that if mitragynine truly does act similar to caffeine at the adenosine receptors, it's tolerance, dependence and withdrawal symptoms may have much more in common with caffeine than with opioids.
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I thought Id give him a shout out if you want to go through his post history about kratom
https://www.reddit.com/user/AzulKat
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: gopher] 4
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Asante]
#26829569 - 07/17/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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left the urologist n my bladder still isnt voiding completely. i gave them a large sample and then they did an ultrasound and said I still had 3 cups in my bladder. i still have the bladder infection apparently a week later. I’m so frustrated about this situation if I was never catheterized I wouldnt be sitting here fighting off a bladder infection it even says in my paperwork i refused medication but was given the IV wtf? i think the doc covered her ass by signing over my power of attorney n almost killed me. this is unreal. i even remember the tech in the hospital telling me they “bodied” me by giving me the catheter. they even took my MRI copy. glad im still alive for now. i still feel like shit! im just glad all these docs are proving me right. i have a whole month of billls i missed because of this. fucking unreal.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Gorlax]
#26829661 - 07/17/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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why did you have seizures and go unconscious to begin with?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: morrowasted]
#26829698 - 07/17/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
#26829966 - 07/17/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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the events were laid out like this.
go to dispensary have a seizure. return home no hospital n 5 hours later i wake up to my roommate freaking out and paramedics make me go to the hospital. i said I was fine and discharged next day completely fine no seizure activity. i slowly get motion sickness. fever. chills. and confusion. I get rushed to hospital and they think I’m high on something as my mom told them my past and they ask for a blood sample for toxicology. i give them one and they find nothing but kratom n seizure meds from day before hospital visit. my bladder feels extremely weird and I started to get insane cramps and back pain.
they then ask for a urine sample and I am only able to pee a tiny bit. they do an ultrasound of my bladder and found it was close to no return. i couldnt stay still the pain was so bad. they tell me they need to void my bladder. i get foley cathed n it evacuates my bladder almost instantly. its red. i remember them saying my kidneys were fucked n i needed dialysis. i was so fucking confused the whole time. i thought the kratom wrecked my kidneys but i remember waking up and my cath dripping blood and the tube full of puss. i guess my bladder got infected and the cath forced the infection to my kidneys. which made me go on emergency dialysis. they put i had bladder spasms on discharge but urologist said it was an infection cuz they treated me with antibiotics. i dnt remember anything between the straight cath n dialysis. i woke up 10 days later totally confused.
im pretty sure kratom gavd me the seizure n then the hospital gave me an infection. somewhere between that i was given a super powerful sedative cuz I don’t remember shit.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26829973 - 07/17/20 11:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Texas Honey Badger] 2
#26830106 - 07/18/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks to Ima Trooper, now with COVID responsible PPE avatar!
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Asante]
#26830186 - 07/18/20 05:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Swedish nursing homes have been giving morphin to patients without need. Causing death because Respiratory depression on patients with some respitory infection all ready. 4 Swedish doctors made noise about this. Now Finnish nurse working in Sweden is blowing the whistle on this one too.
Fuckking pure evil to do non consensual eutanasia on elders!
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: LeningradCowboy] 1
#26830323 - 07/18/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gorlax, it is hard to follow the sequence of events in your posts, but it sounds like your kidneys were failing for some reason, but it sounds like they were failing as a result of your inability to pass urine, which must have had a cause of its own. I have heard of it happening from kratom before but obviously I cant promise you that is what happened. Maybe the strep you previously mentioned spread to infect your meninges or something? That can cause urinary retention. In any case, from your description, you had kidney pain and an inability to urinate before you were ever catheterized. Medical personnel do make mistakes and people getting infections from catheters certainly does happen, though. Whatever happened sorry you had a bad experience.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: morrowasted]
#26830426 - 07/18/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Only an Illinois thing? Probably not
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Dr. Ezike explained that anyone who passes away after testing positive for the virus is included in that category.
"If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death." Dr. Ezike outlined.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26830467 - 07/18/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not the case here in texas. many people in hospice end up contracting covid but covid is never cause of death for a hospice patient here. Likewise, you cannot list covid as cause of death without a "confirmed" (rather than "presumed") diagnosis, and almost all confirmed cases involve a positive covid test. Many people dying of covid never receive a test and therefore are not included in the stats. The stats here are lagging way behind the reality of the death toll. It may be the case that the number of deaths was a bit "inflated" in places like new york where presumed cases who died before received a confirmed diagnosis ended up being listed. Given the number of deaths from all causes this year in new york relative to a typical year, it is clear that SOMETHING had a major impact. Some of that may have been the changes in EMT policy regarding cpr in the field, but a lot of it was covid. In any case, the stats here are very much "deflated."
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: morrowasted]
#26830645 - 07/18/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's recently been admitted that the UK may be overestimating the Covid related deaths in England. The other three countries, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland, that make up the UK, use different criteria when collating their Covid fatalities.
"By this PHE (Public Health England) definition, no one with COVID in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness. A patient who has tested positive, but successfully treated and discharged from hospital, will still be counted as a COVID death even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later".
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: deucedbi9] 1
#26830680 - 07/18/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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My moms friend was over playing tennis yesterday and her brother works at NIAID and says that moderna is mass producing doses of their vaccine in anticipation that it will work
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: deucedbi9] 4
#26830684 - 07/18/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If true, I do agree that such a policy for counting mortality is dumb. I cannot anecdotally speak to how bad things are anywhere but here, but I work with flu patients and the number of deaths from flu during the season is far less than the number of covid deaths at present. I mean it when I say the morgue filled up and a fridge truck was brought in to house the bodies. Poor policy in other places aside, I have never seen anything like this before. I dont bother to watch the news anymore. They are possibly doing as much harm as good by competing with one another for ratings by trying to find the scariest story to pitch the public. It is basically fear pornography, and the public gets to choose its fetish- will you be afraid than you need to be of the government, or will you be more afraid than you need to be of the virus? Despite arguably 40 hours of weekly exposure to areas high in known covid positive individuals, I have still mananged to not catch it, probably by using PPE like face masks adequately (good nutrition may also contribute). But the virus is real, people are dying from it in far greater numbers than people die of the flu, and it is possible to protect yourself from it, if you want to.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: bodhisatta] 3
#26830688 - 07/18/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Only an Illinois thing? Probably not
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Dr. Ezike explained that anyone who passes away after testing positive for the virus is included in that category.
"If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death." Dr. Ezike outlined.
The amount of people that just happen to die during the 7-21 days(avg) that they have test-confirmed COVID in their system, but their death had nothing to do with the pandemic virus in their system, is so small that it's statistically insignificant, as opposed to the tens of thousands of unreported deaths from people dying outside the hospital or with no diagnosis, or from the now widely reported indirect and after-effects.
That is one of the dumber hoaxer talking points, which is saying a lot.
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