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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26819566 - 07/12/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 11
#26819588 - 07/12/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cant tell if this is a joke or trolling 
He was joking. Not JSB specifically (he has always taken this seriously), but I am noticing that people in general have moved from denial ("it is fake") to dismissal ("it is not that bad and will go away on its own or not affect me") or anger ("losing my right to not wear a mask or stand close people or go clubbing is worse than old people dying") to acceptance. Even most of my younger friends in their upper 20s who had been continuing to have house parties and stuff up through june are finally biting the bullet and holing up as best they can. I dont know a single person anymore who doesnt have a close friend or family member that has either been hospitalized for an extended period of time or died from covid19. The process is similar to how people overcome racism or homophobia, once people start having members of their family marry a different race or come out as gay, their empathy for the family member erodes their ability to continue to be in denial or be hateful. And it starts in the city and gradually works its way out into rural areas from there. Either way, there doesnt seem to be an end in sight. If things continue as they are through this upcoming week- and i fully expect them to- I am betting the governor of texas will issue another lockdown. It is too bad he didnt listen the first time. I will not be surprised if texas elects a democrat for governor in the next election and votes blue in the presidential election. I anticipate that biden will win in a landslide.
Those of you stubbornly insisting that this problem isnt as bad as they are saying or they predicted, you are right: it is worse. If you think you are immune, think again. I have seen people younger than I am (30) die from covid now. Was told a story from a colleague about a fairly in shape 30 year old without heart problems or diabetes who went to a covid19 party to intentionally contract the virus. After more than a week of laying in a bed halfway sedated with a tube stuck down his throat and a machine breathing for him in ICU, he died this week, surrounded by nurses, with no family present. He thought they had exaggerated the seriousness of covid19. Please believe us when we say this is not how you want to die, and we dont want to watch you die this way, no matter how arrogant and dismissive you have been. No one deserves this. This is not the kind of situation where anyone will enjoy saying "told you so".
I myself was skeptical in this thread that the pandemic would ever become as much of a problem as it has turned out to be in hot places like texas. I was wrong. Koods "told me so", but I myself went through that denial and dismissal for months. I always wore a mask and stayed home when possible myself, but I may have unintentially thrown gasoline on a fire by repeatedly vocalizing my skepticism that it would be as bad as the media or the task force claimed it would be, especially because of my occupation.
Smart people learn from their mistakes, but the smartest people learn from the mistakes of others. Dont make the same mistake I made.
I appreciate the kind words and support. At the end of the day though, the words of support are not necessary. Being repeatedly called a hero gets nauseating after a while, because healthcare workers are simply people doing a job, and most never anticipated being in a situation like this. It is one thing when there is enough protective equipment and the ability to isolate people with contagious disease, but at present it feels like being a soldier because of the danger and trauma that had become inherent to the job. The best way you can support healthcare workers right now is to do everything in your power not to get sick and need to be taken care of.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: morrowasted]
#26819617 - 07/12/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have taken this seriously once the first cases outside of Wuhan popped up, but I could do better, 1 outta 10 trips to the store I forget to wear my mask, and I have no idea what im gonna do when it gets cold, the mask fogs up my glasses, I got my mask on April 2, and there was a couple days that were cold enough to fog up my glasses, im going to have to get contacts, but I hate taking them in and out, plus even though they say breathable, I cant see them being good for your eye
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: gopher]
#26819674 - 07/12/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Contact lenses get way easier to put in after the first few times. Just make sure you put them in the right side in. If they're inside out, you WILL know. Lmao.
Just make sure to take them off every night, even night and day ones, to give your eyes a chance to rest. I've worn contacts only for 25 years, haven't looked back once.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Psion]
#26819682 - 07/12/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Something about infectious diseases and touching my eyes doesnt sit well.
I'll stick with fogging glasses.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: mushboy]
#26819853 - 07/12/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You don't touch your eyes except for the start and end of the day, pretty much. Wash your hands with soap and your good. Use a proper lens cleaning solution.
Honestly, I find wearing circles of glass set in frames of thin pointy metal set constantly inches away from my most dominant sense to be a recipe for disaster waiting to happen. One errant impact the wrong way, and yay, its happy stabby shards of glass and twisted metal poking time!
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Psion]
#26819871 - 07/12/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive had a few thankyous from people I sent the early "I really hope i'm wrong but if i'm not heres a few actions to take" messages too.
I found my peers late 30s were the first to really be able to accept the reality which is just as important as an intellectual understanding. The sweetspot of young enough to learn old enough to be at risk and not so entrenched that you couldn't change. The young as always felt immune and in some cases they were right. The middle age have never experienced a problem that couldn't be fixed and have seen many scare campaigns amount to nothing. The elderly have lived through it all and changing behaviours is almost impossible and redundant..
If it weren't such a tradgedy and we could gaze with impartial eyes this has been one hell of a study in human behaviour.
How and why each acts when presented with a clear and present danger.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: pineninja]
#26819928 - 07/12/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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NYC had no covid deaths today for the first time since March
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods] 2
#26820654 - 07/13/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doctors believe that even the youngest and mildest infected are at risk of their lives being changed forever, and it could take years to become apparent. Whole workforces could become less productive as a consequence.
The advice from Italy is simple: Don't get infected.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-warning-from-italy-effects-of-covid-19-could-be-worse-than-first-thought-12027348
I still feel like so few people I talk to are aware of just how many people are showing back up in hospitals in rough shape days, weeks, and months after COVID clears their system.
Even those who never have symptoms can show lung damage after the fact (54% or 41 out of 76 in the diamond princess case study).
This fall is gonna be a wild one, once school and childcare centers reopen so will the floodgates of new cases, a whole lot of people who were previously staying bunkered down will be getting exposed. It looks like there may be some real pushback by teachers unions, many of the older or at risk teachers will not want to take the risk.
Meanwhile France is currently able to have pro sports with fans and New Zealand is at zero cases and reopening everything.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: feevers] 2
#26820664 - 07/13/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Get your flu shots people
Get the flu and covid together = no bueno
Dems sum bad hombres
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: feevers]
#26820688 - 07/13/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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feevers said:
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-warning-from-italy-effects-of-covid-19-could-be-worse-than-first-thought-12027348
I still feel like so few people I talk to are aware of just how many people are showing back up in hospitals in rough shape days, weeks, and months after COVID clears their system.
Quoting from that article:
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The long-term effects of COVID-19, even on people who suffered a mild infection, could be far worse than was originally anticipated, according to researchers and doctors in northern Italy.
Psychosis, insomnia, kidney disease, spinal infections, strokes, chronic tiredness and mobility issues are being identified in former coronavirus patients in Lombardy, the worst-affected region in the country.
The doctors warn that some victims may never recover from the illness and that all age groups are vulnerable.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante]
#26820723 - 07/13/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why does it seem like everyone who gets the flu shot usually gets the flu? I have literally never had the flu shot but maybe when I was a young kid when you’re required for school? I do not remember. I have had the flu one time in my life when I was a teen.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: FSHuntings] 1
#26820732 - 07/13/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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FSHuntings said: Why does it seem like everyone who gets the flu shot usually gets the flu?
People who are more likely to get the flu are probably more likely to get the shot as well. Many teachers/students and people who work in health and childcare are required to have it. In theory even if it doesn't keep you from getting the flu, it can lessen symptoms.
I've gotten the flu shot 3 or 4 times, never had the flu though as far as I know.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: feevers]
#26820765 - 07/13/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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FSHuntings said: Why does it seem like everyone who gets the flu shot usually gets the flu?
People who are more likely to get the flu are probably more likely to get the shot as well. Many teachers/students and people who work in health and childcare are required to have it. In theory even if it doesn't keep you from getting the flu, it can lessen symptoms.
I've gotten the flu shot 3 or 4 times, never had the flu though as far as I know.
Ah interesting. Thanks for the comment on the subject.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: FSHuntings] 2
#26820810 - 07/13/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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FSHuntings said: Why does it seem like everyone who gets the flu shot usually gets the flu?
they dont, if you control for variables like occupation. Some people get mildly uncomfortable after getting a flu shot. Getting a flu shot certainly doesnt gaurantee you wont get the flu but it also definitely doesnt make you more likely to get it. I get one every year bc it is required and have not had the flu in 19 years. I would get one even if it werent required
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: morrowasted]
#26820822 - 07/13/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I worked as a server at many restaurants in my days and never got the flu while working there. Restaurants have to be the most diseased ridden places. Constantly in front of people and touching their plates. I have considered getting it before but I don’t really see too much of a point in my case.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: FSHuntings] 3
#26820844 - 07/13/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I certainly dont go out of my way to advocate that everyone get a flu shot. It is kind of a personal decision. I never got one before i was required and the only reason i would get it if not required now is that i get regular reminders of how much it sucks. Patients sick with the flu invariably wish they had gotten immunized because they are in a lot of pain, but it is not as bad as covid. I would always recommend the flu shot to the elderly, but when there is a safe and effective covid vaccination you can bet your ass I will recommend it to everyone, because ad much as the flu sucks, covid is in fact much worse
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26820913 - 07/13/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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First, the trajectory of a moderate initial infection followed by a severe reinfection suggests that this novel coronavirus might share some tendencies of other viruses such as dengue fever, where you can suffer more severe illness each time you contract the disease.
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
If this guy is right even the most pemmisitic projections are probably too optimistic. If it ping pongs and gets worse every time you catch it and it spreads throughout the entire planet the death toll could be billions not millions.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: FSHuntings] 2
#26820935 - 07/13/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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FSHuntings said: I worked as a server at many restaurants in my days and never got the flu while working there. Restaurants have to be the most diseased ridden places. Constantly in front of people and touching their plates. I have considered getting it before but I don’t really see too much of a point in my case.
you dont see a point until you get it I guess... I got the flu once and I was literally bedridden for 2 weeks. Could barely get up to piss. Im in pretty good shape and even then lost like 20-30 pounds.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: ManianFH] 1
#26820976 - 07/13/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had a plain old cold that somehow progressed into double viral pneumonia. The experience was fucking traumatizing.
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