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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods] 1
#26804764 - 07/05/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If i am coming home from work, I disrobe in the garage, put it all into a garbage bag, carry it into the laundry, and immediately shower.
If i am just doing a grocery run i dont bother. Maybe i should but meh
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods]
#26804772 - 07/05/20 07:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Opinion without any backup.
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clean petri dish grows bacteria better than a dirty contaminated one.
This is the most ridiculous excuse for being a dirty slob I’ve ever seen
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I fear older overweight people in demanding jobs forced to wear a mask is more detrimental overall than a possible 8-10 day sickness
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Hunter hunter]
#26804779 - 07/05/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The article addresses showering daily. Find one that addresses showing once a week
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods]
#26804791 - 07/05/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I work in a kitchen, a daily shower is necessary unless I want to stink and have disgusting greasy skin and break out.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Psion]
#26804831 - 07/05/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psion said: you gotta remember, natural flora and fauna are mostly bacteria and fungi, not viruses. they have a much more complicated outer layer that resists plain old hand soap, as well as things like biofilms to help cling to surfaces. they ain't gonna freak out over a bit of dove and hand washing. antibacterial soap maybe, but there's no need to break out the big guns here for your whole body. ;3
Just a fun fact for people who didn’t know, the ingredient in antibacterial soaps that makes them “antibacterial”, triclosan, is not recommended for general use by many medical professionals. Some say it should only be given by prescription to immunocompromised individuals. It’s believed to be a significant contributor in the development of antibiotic resistant bacteria. Plus you have to leave it on your skin for a couple minutes for it to even be work beyond the normal mechanism of soap. It’s also been shown to mess with hormones so I avoid it when I can.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods]
#26804838 - 07/05/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: The article addresses showering daily. Find one that addresses showing once a week
Lol now I didn’t say I don’t “clean up”. Certain things need attention daily. Lol but to “shower” daily in hot soapy chemical whatever you use is not necessarily a good thing. I’ve read somewhere or it was in microbiology class that you could even skip washing certain areas of your body to “keep” the natural flora.
I love a sauna and a day using water therapy. Fucking love it. Love me a shower. And my wife chuckles whenever I’m out in public people are like DAAMN you smell good. Lol. She’s like no If they only knew
https://www.considerable.com/health/healthy-living/shower-health/amp/
Edit they mention once or twice week. Not trying to derail this thread; but I mention this because, since this pandemic I have noticed a lot of really red and dry cracked hands from people using waay too much hand sanitizers. People are destroying their skin and any natural barrier they have. Good ol soap and water. Wash your hands etc... but please stop being ocd about that hand sanitizer. You’re doing more harm than good. Try bathing in hand sanitizer every day see how healthy you become.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Hunter hunter] 1
#26804842 - 07/05/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No you should totally shower every day. You dont have to wash you hair every day but don't be stinkfuck
I wish my city would require masks on public transit, the train is sketchy and it seems more crowded every day
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: viraldrome]
#26804849 - 07/05/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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viraldrome said: No you should totally shower every day. You dont have to wash you hair every day but don't be stinkfuck
I wish my city would require masks on public transit, the train is sketchy and it seems more crowded every day
Ok. Opinion. I’ve backed up my claim. Who can back up the daily shower in hot water antimicrobial fad?
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Hunter hunter]
#26804861 - 07/05/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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gimme like 2 hours ill be around. i think they're trying to destroy my orchard trying to see if there's anything salvageable
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: SonicTitan]
#26804889 - 07/05/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That sucks. I’ve heard that working next to a fryer shortens your lifespan by ten years. Have not looked for any peer reviewed articles on that. You need hazard pay. You are being coated inside and out in oils that should not be consumed, especially not inhaled for hours on end day after day. That has got to be bad for your health. Not to mention the film it creates on your skin.
Also healthcare workers should probably decontaminate as well.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Hunter hunter] 2
#26804983 - 07/05/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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 not all toxins are created equal..
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: MadMuncher] 1
#26805175 - 07/05/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those double flowered daturas are trippy looking.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: psi] 1
#26805326 - 07/05/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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WHO discontinues hydroxychloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir treatment arms for COVID-19 4 July 2020 News release
WHO today accepted the recommendation from the Solidarity Trial’s International Steering Committee to discontinue the trial’s hydroxychloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir arms. The Solidarity Trial was established by WHO to find an effective COVID-19 treatment for hospitalized patients.
The International Steering Committee formulated the recommendation in light of the evidence for hydroxychloroquine vs standard-of-care and for lopinavir/ritonavir vs standard-of-care from the Solidarity trial interim results, and from a review of the evidence from all trials presented at the 1-2 July WHO Summit on COVID-19 research and innovation.
These interim trial results show that hydroxychloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir produce little or no reduction in the mortality of hospitalized COVID-19 patients when compared to standard of care. Solidarity trial investigators will interrupt the trials with immediate effect.
For each of the drugs, the interim results do not provide solid evidence of increased mortality. There were, however, some associated safety signals in the clinical laboratory findings of the add-on Discovery trial, a participant in the Solidarity trial. These will also be reported in the peer-reviewed publication.
This decision applies only to the conduct of the Solidarity trial in hospitalized patients and does not affect the possible evaluation in other studies of hydroxychloroquine or lopinavir/ritonavir in non-hospitalized patients or as pre- or post-exposure prophylaxis for COVID-19. The interim Solidarity results are now being readied for peer-reviewed publication.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante]
#26805353 - 07/05/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edit they mention once or twice week. Not trying to derail this thread; but I mention this because, since this pandemic I have noticed a lot of really red and dry cracked hands from people using waay too much hand sanitizers. People are destroying their skin and any natural barrier they have. Good ol soap and water. Wash your hands etc... but please stop being ocd about that hand sanitizer. You’re doing more harm than good. Try bathing in hand sanitizer every day see how healthy you become.
using hand sanitizer right now isn't about overall health, it's about preventing yourself from contracting a specific virus. nobody is saying you should bathe in it. it's for disinfecting the specific surfaces that have come in contact with potentially contaminated objects. when at work I use hand sanitizer at least 100 times per shift. agreed that soap and water is a better option but that option isn't always realistic, especially in a hospital setting. as long as I use lotion periodically it has never been a problem for me personally, although it does seem to be a problem for some people. maybe one of the few instances where being an oily ginger has worked in my favor
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: morrowasted]
#26805375 - 07/05/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I’m not sure there’s much of a difference between hand sanitizer and soap in terms of what it does to your hands. They both dissolve fats. At least the hand sanitizer doesn’t wash them away like soap and water does.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods]
#26805384 - 07/05/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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in terms of how effective they are against you catching a virus there isn't much difference if either is correctly. the general population is more likely to use soap in an effective way because they can feel it when it hasnt been washed off a specific part of their hands; the same isn't true of hand sanitizer. but it does seem to be true that hand sanitizer dries out peoples' hands a lot more than soap. when you are nursing school they encourage you to use soap and water when possible and to use lotion periodically if you can't because hand sanitizer can dry out your hands so much
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante]
#26805386 - 07/05/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hand sanitizer contains compounds that physically destructs micro organisms (but also harms hands in the long run) but just a good soap will carry off the mico-organisms together with the top layer of fat on your hands.
If absolutely no sanitizer or hand soap can be had, soft-for-the-hands name brand strong dishwashing detergent does a good job too.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante]
#26805456 - 07/05/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hand sanitizer has a certain amount of non volatile material that is left behind on your hands when it dries out.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: feevers]
#26805719 - 07/05/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I post in this thread I notice a moderator will soon follow with a warning post, so I hope this response is allowed. I have no problem not participating here in compliance if that is the intent.
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feevers said: When did facts become a narrative though? There's nothing apocalyptic being said here, we're discussing real-life events as they unfold.
You choose which facts to repeat and which to ignore to support a narrative.
How so? I've had multiple posts about family members who've recovered, many posts about how well the state I'm in has responded, I've shared promising therapeutics and vaccine research, optimism about quality of care and outcomes, etc. The fact that you want to pigeon hole me into some narrative that only you can see is odd.
I thought it was self evident. Talking of millions dead and the economy crashing...
So, to take you at face value, it is unfortunate that your family and friends have been unduly harmed by this pandemic. The vast majority of the population remains under a very minor threat.
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Nothing apocalyptic?
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feevers said: Hundreds of thousands will die, millions will get sick for weeks and months, an undetermined number will suffer long-term and even lifelong consequences, nearly every economist is predicting a massive recession or even depression.
No. Reality.
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So is this a horrible future I need to be concerned about or not?
Concern seems healthy and logical in the current climate, yes. I personally am not afraid or panicked, but I am deeply concerned about the well being of many people I love who have already been affected, and others who are at risk. I'm also troubled by having a government who's response so far has prioritized political gain over the wellbeing, both physically and financially, of its citizens.
I am more deeply concerned about the well being of humanity
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Who are those ones? Nihilism doesn't tend to get much done.
The ones in this thread, in the media, in government offices etc who downplay a pandemic because it's easy to say "that's life", or simply turn a blind eye to what is staring us in the face.
I am also against them. Luckily, we are strong.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: InfiniteDreams] 2
#26805732 - 07/05/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So, to take you at face value, it is unfortunate that your family and friends have been unduly harmed by this pandemic. The vast majority of the population remains under a very minor threat.
The vast majority of the population has never encountered the virus... because of the lockdowns.
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