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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #26798709 - 07/02/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Depends on what you think of as 'having ones guard up'.

I think it is entirely espoused by Trump style opinions that 'we don't need to worry about this virus/the US is fine/why should I wear a mask, it's oppressive/the virus is a hoax/etc/etc'

What do you think it means?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 3
    #26798717 - 07/02/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

For me having 'guard up' means keeping my distance from people(really hard at my job), always in the freakin' mask. And not doing any extracurricular social actives.

Honestly it's not that hard because I cant stand people:lol:

Seems like for some people guard up is either being a karen or hoarding supplies ....or doing nothing:shake:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #26798720 - 07/02/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Same. Having ones guard up means they are on the defensive not the offensive.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26798721 - 07/02/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I think it is entirely espoused by Trump style opinions






Stop talking about political stuff and start stocking up on beans and rice, because you seem poor and in need of a good meal cooked over a fire,


In this pandemic, you get to sit over by the tree while we eat.



It's ok though. You might get angry .



Learn to control it.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #26798759 - 07/02/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Speaking of Karen, she recently appeared in Montclair, NJ.:blush:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/505533-students-protest-outside-home-of-white-woman-seen-in-video
"The Montclair, N.J., woman, who is white, confronted Fareed and Norrinda Hayat on Tuesday, demanding to know whether they had a permit for the(stone patio) construction...


:protest::popcorn: . . . :peace:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Fiery]
    #26798778 - 07/02/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Fiery said:
Hrm. So what happened? massive protests and gatherings, and a couple weeks later massive outbreak of a VIRUS?


Can we please see the reasoning here.


And the whole mask debate is useless. Yes it HELPS but the virus particles are small enough to slip through even n95 masks.





So yeah. Cancel the election rallies, stop talking politics in this thread, stop school from going back and PLEASE stay home unless you really need essentials.




:facepalm: :picard:





Pretty sure the protests did create an rise in rates. It wasnt the protests that is causing the rise in cases.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: snoot]
    #26798797 - 07/02/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

...:awesketch:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26798805 - 07/02/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Tantrika said:
:cheers:



you are being insufferably pretentious.

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Dr. Penny Ward, who teaches pharmaceutical medicine at King’s College London, told the Science Media Centre it would be “unreasonable” to expect the U.S. government to “deny their population access to drugs manufactured in the USA,” especially when America has way more COVID-19 infections than any other country in the world.


If we had 10 million doses of remdesivir, we would not have bought it all. We don't. We have enough to treat about 100,000 people. If you guys were shipping supplies to us at any point, it is ONLY because you had more than you needed and NOT because your government is somehow more "kind hearted" than ours is. The USA provides enormous amount of medical aid to foreign countries; the entire reason remdesivir got off the ground in the first place is because of the US's involvement in the ebola outbreak in africa 7 years ago. My personal intention is to give my skills away as charitably as possible in developing countries that need help, once I have completed my advanced practice degree. I know many Americans who have traveled to Africa, Latin America, SE Asia with non profit medical organizations to do exactly this.


The willingness of french vaccine manufacturers to sell their supplies to non-French governments because those governments are able to outbid the French government specifically speaks to the fact that that manufacturer is subject the same supply and demand whims as any other manufacturer, regardless of nationality.



I am glad we have enough remdesivir to go around considering that our ICU is at 100% capacity. We are shipping patients out to hospitals 30 miles away because we can't hold them anymore. How is your ICU doing?  Oh wait, you don't work in one, you are just a self-righteous dilettante browsing twitter.

If you don't like it, start a pharmaceutical company in your own country and manufacture complicated experimental drugs.


Anyway I love you all and hope you stay well. :heart:


Edited by morrowasted (07/02/20 08:39 AM)


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26798809 - 07/02/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
Depends on what you think of as 'having ones guard up'.




some people are having a hard time adapting to life during the pandemic without unnecessary stress,
like there's no middle ground between "fight or flight mode" and "idgaf, it's just a flu anyway"


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26798818 - 07/02/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
Quote:

Tantrika said:
:cheers:



you are being insufferably pretentious.

Quote:

Dr. Penny Ward, who teaches pharmaceutical medicine at King’s College London, told the Science Media Centre it would be “unreasonable” to expect the U.S. government to “deny their population access to drugs manufactured in the USA,” especially when America has way more COVID-19 infections than any other country in the world.


If we had 10 million doses of remdesivir, we would not have bought it all. We don't. If you guys were shipping supplies to us at any point, it is ONLY because you had more than you needed and NOT because your government is somehow more "kind hearted" than ours is. The willingness of french vaccine manufacturers to sell their supplies to non-French governments because those governments are able to outbid the French government specifically speaks to the fact that that manufacturer is subject the same supply and demand whims as any other manufacturer, regardless of nationality.



I am glad we have enough remdesivir to go around considering that our ICU is at 100% capacity. We are shipping patients out to hospitals 30 miles away because we can't hold them anymore. How is your ICU doing?  Oh wait, you don't work in one, you are just a self-righteous dilettante browsing twitter.

If you don't like it, start a pharmaceutical company in your own country and manufacture complicated experimental drugs.




:rofl:

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the US kind of needs any edge it can get since the overall response has been so bad
but it is just another step by the Trump administration to alienate US allies
ironic that it takes a global pandemic for the UK to decide that maybe it should just go with generics from countries that ignore US patents tho :lol:
:shrug:




cry more about your justifications for American Exceptionalism tho
the place it is showing most is in your citizens thinking you are exceptional and above the need to wear those masks you stockpiled
and above this fake virus impacting the world

fully agree y'all have done so badly with this whole thing that you basically need to stockpile the remdesivir to catch up and am also glad you have access to it
genuinely hope it makes your job on par with the difficulty it ought to be in the first place
:cheers:

meanwhile the Canadian government will likely take the same route as the UK and buy generics and provide them to citizens in need for free


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] * 5
    #26798820 - 07/02/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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fully agree y'all have done so badly with this whole thing that you basically need to stockpile the remdesivir to catch up and am also glad you have access to it


"I" didn't do "badly". "I" have been doing everything in my power to help people who are too poor to help themselves. These people HAVE to go to work because our president is a dumbshit unwilling to suspend the economy and provide financial assistance. we HATE him. jesus christ


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26798823 - 07/02/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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:cheers:

meanwhile the Canadian government will likely take the same route as the UK and buy generics and provide them to citizens in need for free




Generics that will only exist precisely because we don't impose the same rules on pharmaceutical companies that you do and we suffer as a result of it most of the time. Give us this one thing, jesus


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Fiery] * 3
    #26798827 - 07/02/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
Quote:

Tantrika said:
:cheers:



you are being insufferably pretentious.



I would highly, highly recommend you not engage with Tantrika at this point morrow. For one, I am INCREDIBLY fucking grateful to have you back here, and, considering the stress you must be under right now, getting involved in her manner of diatribe/debate is only going to push you further into stress, IMO. Certainly best off avoided at present. I've promised myself to do the same, FWIW.


Quote:

Primal Glitch said:
Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Depends on what you think of as 'having ones guard up'.




some people are having a hard time adapting to life during the pandemic without unnecessary stress,
like there's no middle ground between "fight or flight mode" and "idgaf, it's just a flu anyway"



In a country so damn polarized between 'left/right' and 'lib/dem' I'm not surprised most people here find it so hard to find a middle ground. Perhaps that's a benefit offered to me as a foreigner living amongst it; I'm not dragged in to any of it by friends/family (although friends here are very much into it). To me, it looks quite bizarre to not be able to stay calm yet not be self-righteous and stock up/refuse to take others safety into account.


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Stop talking about political stuff and start stocking up on beans and rice, because you seem poor and in need of a good meal cooked over a fire,
It's ok though. You might get angry .
Learn to control it.



I love it when people here get me 100% wrong. Classic. It's rare enough as to be an enjoyable novelty at this point.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26798831 - 07/02/20 08:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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fully agree y'all have done so badly with this whole thing that you basically need to stockpile the remdesivir to catch up and am also glad you have access to it


"I" didn't do "badly". "I" have been doing everything in my power to help people who are too poor to help themselves. These people HAVE to go to work because our president is a dumbshit unwilling to suspend the economy and provide financial assistance. we HATE him. jesus christ




it's a national identity that you can be proud of taking part in when it is convenient for joining non-profits
and one you can abscond in an instant when you realize it ties you to anything bad

look forward to you getting yourself out of that hole and in to an African country where you can be consistently proud, good luck :heart:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26798840 - 07/02/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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:cheers:

meanwhile the Canadian government will likely take the same route as the UK and buy generics and provide them to citizens in need for free




Generics that will only exist precisely because we don't impose the same rules on pharmaceutical companies that you do and we suffer as a result of it most of the time. Give us this one thing, jesus




Generics that will only exist because there are countries in the world that ignore your patent laws

as previously stated, this action of buying up the supply and limiting allies access
is going to drive up the prescription price for your citizens
fully recognize how the US taking actions that hurt allies also hurts the US


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #26798846 - 07/02/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Tantrika said:
look forward to you getting yourself out of that hole and in to an African country where you can be consistently proud, good luck :heart:



See this is why you shouldn't respond morrow. This is nothing more than antagonistic and bitchy baiting at this point. Be the bigger person!!


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26798847 - 07/02/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
Quote:

Tantrika said:
:cheers:



you are being insufferably pretentious.



I would highly, highly recommend you not engage with Tantrika at this point morrow. For one, I am INCREDIBLY fucking grateful to have you back here, and, considering the stress you must be under right now, getting involved in her manner of diatribe/debate is only going to push you further into stress, IMO. Certainly best off avoided at present. I've promised myself to do the same, FWIW.




Highly agree
as jsb has learned by being called out for spouting hatred in the manner that drove you off in the first place
if someone does not start going after me for my making truthful statements about the way the world works
they do not have to put up with me responding to their ridiculous replies to me

it really is as easy as not attacking me for speaking simple truths

:cheers:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26798852 - 07/02/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Quote:

Tantrika said:
look forward to you getting yourself out of that hole and in to an African country where you can be consistently proud, good luck :heart:



See this is why you shouldn't respond morrow. This is nothing more than antagonistic and bitchy baiting at this point. Be the bigger person!!




he said:
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My personal intention is to give my skills away as charitably as possible in developing countries that need help, once I have completed my advanced practice degree. I know many Americans who have traveled to Africa, Latin America, SE Asia with non profit medical organizations to do exactly this.




my hope was that he gets through this whole Covid mess and makes it to his dream
you call me antagonistic and "bitchy baiting" because you have to refer to women through misogynistic terms
even tho Asante told you to lay off that shit


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] * 5
    #26798855 - 07/02/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Y'all need to calm down and get this thread back on track.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] * 3
    #26798858 - 07/02/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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:cheers:

meanwhile the Canadian government will likely take the same route as the UK and buy generics and provide them to citizens in need for free




Generics that will only exist precisely because we don't impose the same rules on pharmaceutical companies that you do and we suffer as a result of it most of the time. Give us this one thing, jesus




Generics that will only exist because there are countries in the world that ignore your patent laws




The generic can only exist because Gilead made the non generic! If Gilead hadn't made it, there would be nothing to steal!

My attitude has nothing to do with "american exceptionalism". There are pros and cons to each health system. One pro of our system is that companies are ABLE to produce these experimental drugs. One con is that I have to explain to multiple people every week that they are going to die unless they actually go buy insulin I KNOW they will never be able to afford.

This country is NOT a shithole. We have too many populists and nationalists but we also have MANY kind hearted people who donate their money and time to helping the developing world. What our government does is NOT representative of the American people. Healthcare workers and first responders are currently being left to pick up the pieces of failed US government policies (our prize: "You're a hero!", by the way, here's a 10% paycut because the hospital can't do elective surgeries) and WE ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT, but I'd be lying to you if I said I'm not at least GRATEFUL that the government bought what LITTLE supply that exists of a drug that may have save the lives of patients, because handing an ipad to a patient so that they can explain that they probably aren't going to live to their families via facetime fucking sucks.


:heart: I really need to step away.


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