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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] * 3
    #26797873 - 07/01/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

so basically you're admitting that manufacturers in your country and in France are subject to greed and supply/demand forces as well

got it


not interested in arguing anymore, take care


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26797883 - 07/01/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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so basically you're admitting that manufacturers in your country and in France are subject to greed and supply/demand forces as well




Yes, am admitting that while the US monopolizes things,
Canada and France try to continue to supply their allies while supplying their own countries
when the US cut the export of masks to Canada, Canada kept exporting the product to the US necessary for them to make those masks for US citizens

that thing the US is not doing because it alienates its allies on the basis of presumed specialness

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morrowasted said:
got it




then suspect you will never again state that the US monopolizing product and keeping it out of hands of their allies is remotely the same behaviour

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not interested in arguing anymore, take care




It was never an argument on my end, simply educating you
but thank you for giving up arguing on your end and taking some time to learn, if you actually have
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26797893 - 07/01/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Dear Americans, pay close attention:

The First Wave is getting a second wind in your country:





If you were in Europe you could argue its the vsecond wave, but in the US the first wave never really receded.

So, the FIRST WAVE IS PICKING UP AGAIN.

Over here in Holland which was more infectede than the US in places, we got off the first wave mostly with ISOLATING AND SOCIAL DISTANCING. The masks only came later.

I ask of you: If you are in any way sick or less than well, either with COVID or a comorbidity that acts poorly with COVID

1) Isolate
2) Social Distance
3) Mask up

YOU GOT TO STICK WITH THE PROGRAM.

Look at that graph, is it over in the US? In ANY way?

Take the proper precautions.

Shop strategically.

Get ready for some serious TROUBLE in the US and RESPECT EACH OTHER ENOUGH TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

As you can see by the graph, Trump policy nonwithstanding, THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

This might not seriously harm you but it sure can do so for your elderly or sickly relatives, or just for your rotund relatives because BEING FAT IS A RISK FACTOR FOR SERIOUS COVID.

Battlestations guys, if you can buy guns and boxes of redundant ammo while you in your life probaly will end up killing less people than you have guns, you can SOCIAL DISTANCE.

This is an enemy foreign and domestic because the pandemic is Domestic and it consist of a foreign body infecting yours.

Don't react with bullets but with good sense.

Unless you want to take part in ethnic cleansing in a mad max wasteland, you have enough bullets.

DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING AND SOCIAL DISTANCE FOR EACH OTHER.



Look half of us know know all this and your preaching to the choir the other half would litterally die then agree with a Democrat or put a piece of cloth on their faces mainly because they eat up crap that its not as big a problem as it is. In my eyes they're the biggest part of our extremely dire state with infections deaths and over 20 states having to shut down because people want to say deaths are inflated,major disinformation about masks not working, they want to stick it to the democrats without thinking of the well being of the citizens of the country and it will be our inevitable downfall.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26797895 - 07/01/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hrm. So what happened? massive protests and gatherings, and a couple weeks later massive outbreak of a VIRUS?


Can we please see the reasoning here.


And the whole mask debate is useless. Yes it HELPS but the virus particles are small enough to slip through even n95 masks.





So yeah. Cancel the election rallies, stop talking politics in this thread, stop school from going back and PLEASE stay home unless you really need essentials.




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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Fiery]
    #26797897 - 07/01/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

think it was GOD big homie


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Fiery]
    #26797899 - 07/01/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Fiery said:
And the whole mask debate is useless. Yes it HELPS




Agreed, not sure why there is debate on the issue beyond that
people want to claim it is too much inconvenience for too little help
but it is the little things that make all the difference


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Fiery]
    #26797906 - 07/01/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Fiery said:
Hrm. So what happened? massive protests and gatherings, and a couple weeks later massive outbreak of a VIRUS?


Can we please see the reasoning here.


And the whole mask debate is useless. Yes it HELPS but the virus particles are small enough to slip through even n95 masks.





So yeah. Cancel the election rallies, stop talking politics in this thread, stop school from going back and PLEASE stay home unless you really need essentials.




:facepalm: :picard:



No Texas opened and they had wise spread consensus that masks didn't work now they are the hotspots in the US. Sure protests contribute but its clear the state's that opened without meeting criteria and got bit in the ass for it. Texas and Florida weren't the mass protest areas but they are the hotspots. This is the case for 20+ states now


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Re: Global Coronavirus Outbreak 2020 - Phase II [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26797911 - 07/01/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, I will put u down for "English Green" :takingnotes:

I heard somewhere that this Phase 2 (Re-Opening) is worst then Phase 1 in some areas. Couldnt believe it....


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika]
    #26797912 - 07/01/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

People high in arrogance will do anything but what they're told they should do, even if it's for the good of others.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: HamHead]
    #26797917 - 07/01/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Canadians do not want the US border reopened
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When Leger Marketing asked Canadians in May when they thought Canada should reopen its border with the United States, 47 per cent of respondents said "not before the end of the year." With more than 2.6 million cases now in the United States, it's unlikely Canadians' enthusiasm for welcoming our American neighbours has increased since then.

An exemption for "essential" travel significantly reduced the disruption to the Canadian economy. "Canadians continue to get the food, medicine, commercial goods, and other essential supplies they need to live and work, and Canadian exporters for the most part have not suffered disruption," said Goldy Hyder, president and CEO of the Business Council of Canada.

But the decline in traffic across the border has still been precipitous. According to data obtained by Postmedia, between June 15 and June 21 just 170,998 people entered Canada at a land crossing with the United States — and 104,247 of those people were truck drivers. Over the same period in 2019, more than 1.2 million people traveled through a land crossing from the U.S. into Canada.

Based on those numbers, the pandemic is going to leave a deep mark on the Canadian tourism industry and on border towns like Windsor and Sarnia, Ontario. Hyder and the Business Council have called on the federal government to extend its wage subsidy for the tourism sector through the rest of the year.



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With the United States adding 40,000 new cases of COVID-19 each day, the European Union is leaving the U.S. off a list of 15 countries whose citizens soon will be allowed to visit its 27 member nations. In Canada, there seems to be no great desire to quickly reverse the unprecedented border restrictions that were imposed in March.

The question for Canadians is how much longer the virtual wall will have to be in place — and how much it might hurt to keep it there.

"My guess is it's going to have to stay closed for more than 12 months," Colin Furness, an epidemiologist at the University of Toronto, told CBC News this week. "It's hard to imagine what's going to happen in the United States until we have a vaccine or until the population has been sufficiently infected that you have herd immunity."



https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-u-s-border-pandemic-covid-coronavirus-1.5633650

this is difficult, because a lot of the Canadian economy is reliant upon free and open trade and travel with the US
with various tourist sites even being set up along the border with attractions on both sides
but it is also pretty expected given how hard Canadians have been working to get ourselves off lockdown
while the US has been having issues of spreading further and faster

there were a bunch of jokes on Canada Day threads on imgur today about how this is the first year
where we don't have to worry about cleaning up after people for the 4th of July tho :lol:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26797919 - 07/01/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Look half of us know know all this and your preaching to the choir the other half would litterally die then agree with a Democrat or put a piece of cloth on their faces mainly because they eat up crap that its not as big a problem as it is. In my eyes they're the biggest part of our extremely dire state with infections deaths and over 20 states having to shut down because people want to say deaths are inflated,major disinformation about masks not working, they want to stick it to the democrats without thinking of the well being of the citizens of the country and it will be our inevitable downfall.




the other halfish of people are the kind who believe that 5G towers are emitting radioactive cancer mind-control waves. or something. and the worst part? you think they're totally normal people - your friends, your co-workers, your family - until one day you trigger a landmine in conversation and they go TOTALLY OFF THE DEEP END and you realize you didn't know this person at all. it's terrifying. one moment you think you were talking to a pretty reasonable human being.

the next, you realize they've got some serious brainworms that need killing or something. it's almost enough to make me believe there's a chemical agent or virus or something that's affecting people's cognitive capabilities and overall health, causing obesity rates to skyrocket. not necessarily intentional either - it might've been something innocuous that no one realized is affecting health, or a common cold virus that no one realized is secretly sabotaging people's health overtime with repeated infections.

i know some of it has to be the culture of america, (lack of affordable produce and the only healthy food being ultra processed, a culture of stupidity), but i feel like that can't explain nearly all of it, especially considering how ridiculously easy it is to put on weight yet it's neigh impossible to get rid of it. if a calorie is a calorie, it should be nearly as easy to get rid of a pound as it is to add it on, but i can personally attest that it takes one cookie to gain 10 lb and 10 days of fasting to lose 0.1 lb. =,= (very mild exaggeration here. no seriously. damn you, metabolic syndrome.)


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26797927 - 07/01/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

All I have to say about that is stock up NOW.

Imagine if a nuclear bomb were to go off during a major virus outbreak. Get iodine pills, get a good gas mask,


stock up food for when all the grocery store workers die or quit and the chain of supply collapses. Get a safe plan to evacuate and protect yourself.



If you think the looting and chaos was bad during an outbreak of a virus, imagine something else on top of that.



People have decided to "chillax" and are letting their guard down when now is the time to do the exact opposite.


Stop being complacent and make a difference for your own future by being ready for the next waves of this virus.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Psion] * 3
    #26797934 - 07/01/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Fiery]
    #26797939 - 07/01/20 09:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Fiery said:
All I have to say about that is stock up NOW.

Imagine if a nuclear bomb were to go off during a major virus outbreak. Get iodine pills, get a good gas mask,


stock up food for when all the grocery store workers die or quit and the chain of supply collapses. Get a safe plan to evacuate and protect yourself.



If you think the looting and chaos was bad during an outbreak of a virus, imagine something else on top of that.



People have decided to "chillax" and are letting their guard down when now is the time to do the exact opposite.


Stop being complacent and make a difference for your own future by being ready for the next waves of this virus.




Yeah, I get that feeling as well. My state (Connecticut) has been doing very well in the last 6 weeks, but I have a terrible feeling it's not going to last for very long.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: qman]
    #26797948 - 07/01/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Fiery said:
People have decided to "chillax" and are letting their guard down when now is the time to do the exact opposite.





People keeping their guard UP is exactly what led the US to the state it's in now.

I would argue that more of the same is a foolish tack.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: qman]
    #26797955 - 07/01/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, I get that feeling as well. My state (Connecticut) has been doing very well in the last 6 weeks, but I have a terrible feeling it's not going to last for very long.




I got that feeling too at first wind of a virus and luckily I got 2 gallons of everclear and a bunch of isopropyl and food before it got crazy.


Now a days having groceries brought out to you though is easy.


I think the $2 an hour increase a lot of grocery store workers are getting is a slap in the face. It should be WAY more.

And also all the people not being safe are a slap in the face to nurses and everyone else risking their lives and families to provide essential services for everyone.



I think the more that we get away from being reliant on "essential services" to being reliant without them, the better off we will be and also the essential workers.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Fiery]
    #26797980 - 07/01/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

what 2$ an hour increase? where's my 2$ an hour increase? i want a 2$ an hour increase! ;_; im still getting minimum wage shit here. our boss just gave us a daily few bucks to spend on a snack and drink for a couple months then cut that off.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: qman]
    #26798282 - 07/02/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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qman said:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/07/01/i-dont-need-his-advice-anymore-texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-says-of-top-covid-19-expert-dr-fauci/

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-lt-governor-criticizes-fauci-as-cases-surge/2398919/

Wow, no wonder the US is screwed.  :huxleyfacepalm:




This is the stuff you'd expect from undeveloped nations - government denial of science.

Good luck USA, unfortunately I think you'll need it.


Edited by Guy1980 (07/02/20 01:57 AM)


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: zZZz]
    #26798450 - 07/02/20 03:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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zZZz said:
think it was GOD big homie







goto 0.58 for that "They want to throw God's wonderful breathing system out the door"

I get her point though about rebreathing carbon dioxide, It's not pleasant.

Wanted to repost this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/alexdstuckey/status/1276653523636273152

Is this just stubborn American refusal to use metric. Two meters? I'ma use good ole 'merican feet. goddamn.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26798641 - 07/02/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
Quote:

Fiery said:
People have decided to "chillax" and are letting their guard down when now is the time to do the exact opposite.





People keeping their guard UP is exactly what led the US to the state it's in now.

I would argue that more of the same is a foolish tack.




This is one most delucional lines in this thread.

If us would had the guard up on time, the situation would not be like this. BLM rallys in middle of pandemia dont help either :shrug:


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