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TheFakeSunRa said: I’m doing everything in my power but I’m pretty sure it’s too late now.
Accepting that we’re all going to have this virus replicating in our bodies is very quickly moving into the things we cannot control category.
And I so big time agree with you and I’m so disappointed in America and our response to this was my tipping point but even my therapist who is also terrified of this virus said that we’re close to the point where as an individual it’s one of those things that we will almost certainly need to accept as just a fact of life (or death- she didn’t say death).
It’s really fucking sad.
Do you think from what you've read that it’s something you can catch multiple times?
I’m afraid it is and our quality of life and life expectancy will be permanently diminished. And anti-vaxxers are still a huge problem here. Plus, health care debt. A trip to the ICU is a ticket to bankruptcy for millions here and they still won’t clear your medical debt.
Plus no sick leave at work. Our situation is very VERY dire.
And what broke my heart is that we had the resources to beat this thing but it wasn’t worth it to us because we are a very sick society with a horrifying culture.
I’ve been getting heat for saying this but we’re rotten man. To the core.
Idk things are going pretty well around here. We all wear our masks and aren’t being stupid. It’s not that hard.
Arizona just announced 5,000 new cases. Per capita that is likely the largest daily increase of cases of any place in the world ever
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
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TheFakeSunRa said: I’m doing everything in my power but I’m pretty sure it’s too late now.
Accepting that we’re all going to have this virus replicating in our bodies is very quickly moving into the things we cannot control category.
And I so big time agree with you and I’m so disappointed in America and our response to this was my tipping point but even my therapist who is also terrified of this virus said that we’re close to the point where as an individual it’s one of those things that we will almost certainly need to accept as just a fact of life (or death- she didn’t say death).
It’s really fucking sad.
Do you think from what you've read that it’s something you can catch multiple times?
I’m afraid it is and our quality of life and life expectancy will be permanently diminished. And anti-vaxxers are still a huge problem here. Plus, health care debt. A trip to the ICU is a ticket to bankruptcy for millions here and they still won’t clear your medical debt.
Plus no sick leave at work. Our situation is very VERY dire.
And what broke my heart is that we had the resources to beat this thing but it wasn’t worth it to us because we are a very sick society with a horrifying culture.
I’ve been getting heat for saying this but we’re rotten man. To the core.
Idk things are going pretty well around here. We all wear our masks and aren’t being stupid. It’s not that hard.
Arizona just announced 5,000 new cases. Per capita that is likely the largest daily increase of cases of any place in the world ever
Unless your state decides to drop out of the union and wall up you’re still fucked imo.
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What are you even basing that off of tho? Cuz the news said 'EVERYBODY IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET IT! THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL!'? The news says a lot of crazy shit man. I dont really see any evidence to support that corona will have a long-term deterimental effect on society aside from the consequences of the extreme reaction to it.
Really bizarre time in history. Historians will ponder over the coronavirus hysteria for centuries. It really is a very important mass case study on the psychology of the modern human, the impact of media on society, and the ability to transform society overnight and how you get most people to be okay with it. I dont think people truly realize how huuuuuuge of an event this is, and even if they do it's usually for the completely wrong reasons like 'wow most people were inside long time. Crazyyyyyyy. People wear masks now it craaaaazyyy.'
When you really stop and think about all the factors of this pandemic, the reaction to it, and the absolutely uunbelievably extreme effect it had on society, you really start to realize how fucking absurd it is. Honestly tho.
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koods said:
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TheFakeSunRa said: I’m doing everything in my power but I’m pretty sure it’s too late now.
Accepting that we’re all going to have this virus replicating in our bodies is very quickly moving into the things we cannot control category.
And I so big time agree with you and I’m so disappointed in America and our response to this was my tipping point but even my therapist who is also terrified of this virus said that we’re close to the point where as an individual it’s one of those things that we will almost certainly need to accept as just a fact of life (or death- she didn’t say death).
It’s really fucking sad.
Do you think from what you've read that it’s something you can catch multiple times?
I’m afraid it is and our quality of life and life expectancy will be permanently diminished. And anti-vaxxers are still a huge problem here. Plus, health care debt. A trip to the ICU is a ticket to bankruptcy for millions here and they still won’t clear your medical debt.
Plus no sick leave at work. Our situation is very VERY dire.
And what broke my heart is that we had the resources to beat this thing but it wasn’t worth it to us because we are a very sick society with a horrifying culture.
I’ve been getting heat for saying this but we’re rotten man. To the core.
Idk things are going pretty well around here. We all wear our masks and aren’t being stupid. It’s not that hard.
Arizona just announced 5,000 new cases. Per capita that is likely the largest daily increase of cases of any place in the world ever
Unless your state decides to drop out of the union and wall up you’re still fucked imo.
I saw a Texas license plate in the parking lot of the store today and thought twice about going in
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Plus, health care debt. A trip to the ICU is a ticket to bankruptcy for millions here and they still won’t clear your medical debt.
Plus no sick leave at work. Our situation is very VERY dire.
And what broke my heart is that we had the resources to beat this thing but it wasn’t worth it to us because we are a very sick society with a horrifying culture.
I’ve been getting heat for saying this but we’re rotten man. To the core.
"Donald Trump has said he would maintain the protections for people with pre-existing conditions, but has not said how it would replace the existing rules if the ACA was invalidated".
I'd be interested see some comments on this>
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/27/obamacare-trump-covid-health-insurance
Is the man resposible for many more getting sick with this, going to pull away the safety net?
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Ya'll seem like you consume way too much journalistic media. They successfully and easily trapped you into their cycle of self-perpetuating news stories. Ya'll are walking ads.
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#26796746 - 07/01/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: Ya'll seem like you consume way too much journalistic media. They successfully and easily trapped you into their cycle of self-perpetuating news stories. Ya'll are walking ads.
'2ez, noobs' - journalism outlets to the american population
What an edgy and original take.
Some of us are actually living in reality and directly dealing with the consequences of the virus every day. Feel free to block your ears and cover your eyes until it actually hits close to home for you as well.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
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Does anyone know someone personally that has covid?
Not a friend of a friend or anything like that. Not a friend who's a nurse or doctor treating people.
Someone you actually know?
I've yet to meet someone.
- Not denying any of the info in this thread. Just genuinely curious..
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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koods said:
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TheFakeSunRa said: I’m doing everything in my power but I’m pretty sure it’s too late now.
Accepting that we’re all going to have this virus replicating in our bodies is very quickly moving into the things we cannot control category.
And I so big time agree with you and I’m so disappointed in America and our response to this was my tipping point but even my therapist who is also terrified of this virus said that we’re close to the point where as an individual it’s one of those things that we will almost certainly need to accept as just a fact of life (or death- she didn’t say death).
It’s really fucking sad.
Do you think from what you've read that it’s something you can catch multiple times?
I’m afraid it is and our quality of life and life expectancy will be permanently diminished. And anti-vaxxers are still a huge problem here. Plus, health care debt. A trip to the ICU is a ticket to bankruptcy for millions here and they still won’t clear your medical debt.
Plus no sick leave at work. Our situation is very VERY dire.
And what broke my heart is that we had the resources to beat this thing but it wasn’t worth it to us because we are a very sick society with a horrifying culture.
I’ve been getting heat for saying this but we’re rotten man. To the core.
Idk things are going pretty well around here. We all wear our masks and aren’t being stupid. It’s not that hard.
Arizona just announced 5,000 new cases. Per capita that is likely the largest daily increase of cases of any place in the world ever
Unless your state decides to drop out of the union and wall up you’re still fucked imo.
I saw a Texas license plate in the parking lot of the store today and thought twice about going in
Fricken Texan Frackers gonna go home for the holidays and visit their infected kin and come back and spread the infection to rural Appalachia.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: falcon]
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Yeah I’ve got several family members and neighbors who’ve either had it or has it now. 2 are on deaths door right now.
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Herbologist said: Does anyone know someone personally that has covid?
Not a friend of a friend or anything like that. Not a friend who's a nurse or doctor treating people.
Someone you actually know?
I've yet to meet someone.
- Not denying any of the info in this thread. Just genuinely curious..
I know three, one was in a coma for around a week and is recovering now, strange considering he’s actually fairly healthy activity and diet wise. My cousin is quarantined at home with my uncle and his family right now too because someone at work tested positive. They’re not exactly the picture of perfect health. Shits scary man.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
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Near Dylan said: Ya'll seem like you consume way too much journalistic media. They successfully and easily trapped you into their cycle of self-perpetuating news stories. Ya'll are walking ads.
'2ez, noobs' - journalism outlets to the american population
What an edgy and original take.
Some of us are actually living in reality and directly dealing with the consequences of the virus every day. Feel free to block your ears and cover your eyes until it actually hits close to home for you as well.
It hit my area crazy hard but we really quickly got shit together and got testing to be really easy and cheap/free and hospitals started prioritizing better nad managing better and things kinda evened out to a level like the flu where it's hella dangerous and spreads but is treatable and not a world-ending issue. But society is still shut down completely and the economy has been absolutely donkey-dicked into never before seen levels of extreme drop lmao. To combat a pandemic... a bad one, granted. A new one. But nothing world ending, bro. We ended the world over it.
I have no doubt that corona is bad and there are areas with less treatment options for it and it's a nuanced issue. But damn near the whole world just shut down for a pandemic that wasnt even comparable to the severity of other more dangerous pandemics that didnt get anywhere near the level of reaction and didnt have anywhere near as devastating an effect on society. I just dont see how this seems to be kinda not that sketchy to so many people, ya kno? Either something is kinda up, or humans are really fuckin wildinnnnn dude. Our psychology has gotten body-slammed by modern society and mass culture. Regardless of if you know no one who got corona or your whole family died from it, it's undeniable that shit got wayyyyyy crazier in response to this pandemic than it even has in history. And it aint cuz the pandemic is the most dangerous thing to sweep across mankind.
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Living in reality. Some estimates say 16-17% of all America adults are on antidepressants. Clear view of reality........ Yea ok.
Heck even if 10% of people needed/wanted antidepressants it strongly suggests the problem is people not any real physiological dysfunction.
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Near Dylan said: Ya'll seem like you consume way too much journalistic media. They successfully and easily trapped you into their cycle of self-perpetuating news stories. Ya'll are walking ads.
'2ez, noobs' - journalism outlets to the american population
People think the people who don't make politics and news what their life around don't "see reality" and all that other absolute bullshit to rationalize their own habits.
I'll get called a racist for saying the protests are ridiculous. My lift driver is black. He doesn't protest either. He's been called a coon and uncle tom by his peers because he gave a fuck about having financial stability and a nice looking home.
People get this idea that they have to follow this status quo and fit in. I go to work and give a bunch of minorities opportunity and empowerment. I've advocated for raises on people's behalf before they asked for one themselves. I've trained people that barely speak any English how to get past their entry level jobs and start to do some of the work the supervisor or management would take care of.
Meanwhile there's plenty of people protesting that can't even lend a helping hand to themselves let alone other people in society.
I think actions speak louder than words. A lot of people think their masks, closures, and protest signs are these powerful actions. being actually able to help out your community is a powerful positive action. Holding a sign or belittling people who disagree with your policies and opinions is definitely not. America and the world more than anything need a great awakening of the mind. People really need to start being able to think for themselves.
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bodhisatta said: Living in reality. Some estimates say 16-17% of all America adults are on antidepressants. Clear view of reality........ Yea ok.
Heck even if 10% of people needed/wanted antidepressants it strongly suggests the problem is people not any real physiological dysfunction.
Not sure how you used my quote about a common-sense pandemic response to start a rant against antidepressants and the chemical nature theory of depression. If anything that further amplifies what I'm saying, a lot of people would prefer a switch where they can just turn off a problem and ignore it, instead of doing the difficult work of understanding it and tackling it head on.
I also don't know why you're getting defensive about not being a racist in a thread about a pandemic.
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People think the people who don't make politics and news what their life around don't "see reality" and all that other absolute bullshit to rationalize their own habits.
I get my information from the source, my wife is an MPH working in population health for one of the hospitals that's leading the way on COVID research, and had 400+ Covid patients at the peak, with over 100 in their covid-specific ICU at any given time. That was with the economy effectively shut down and an estimated less than 5% of people in the state being exposed, and dozens of neighboring hospitals filling up as well. Even in the suburbs, it was sirens all day every day. If we didn't shut down, or even shut down a week later, it likely would have crippled the hospitals and lead to far more deaths. They have conference calls daily with the researchers, doctors, management and government discussing what's actually going on, and compiling the data about what is/isn't working.
Media will spin shit as they always do, but no one with an actual background in these things is arguing against social distancing and gradual economic reopening with masks heavily incorporated when distancing is difficult. Even World Economics and Goldmans Sachs have sent out thorough reports that mask wearing and phased reopening will drastically reduce the economic hit going forward that simply opening the flood gates would cause.
But random people on the internet think that because they don't like something, they can just pretend they're above it, and that they know more than the people that are actually working to do something about it. You're making it out to be an either or thing, when in reality you're probably an outlier if you're someone who actively does positive work in your community but are unwilling to wear a piece of cloth over your mouth and distance when possible, as part of a relatively simple group effort to slow the spread of a pandemic.
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Herbologist said: Does anyone know someone personally that has covid?
Not a friend of a friend or anything like that. Not a friend who's a nurse or doctor treating people.
Someone you actually know?
I've yet to meet someone.
Not denying any of the info in this thread. Just genuinely curious..
Yeah but how many people do you know? Both people I know who had it were "internet friends" in the USA that I never met in IRL. Both almost died and both were younger than me. I don't know any locals with it, but my area in Canada got it almost under control pretty quickly. America is posting insane numbers of cases now, you will probably know someone soon. I mean you could be living in rural bum fuck nowhere county and not encounter it too, we don't all live the same lifestyle or have same risk level.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Near Dylan]
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Near Dylan said: Ya'll seem like you consume way too much journalistic media. They successfully and easily trapped you into their cycle of self-perpetuating news stories. Ya'll are walking ads.
'2ez, noobs' - journalism outlets to the american population
What an edgy and original take.
Some of us are actually living in reality and directly dealing with the consequences of the virus every day. Feel free to block your ears and cover your eyes until it actually hits close to home for you as well.
It hit my area crazy hard but we really quickly got shit together and got testing to be really easy and cheap/free and hospitals started prioritizing better nad managing better and things kinda evened out to a level like the flu where it's hella dangerous and spreads but is treatable and not a world-ending issue. But society is still shut down completely and the economy has been absolutely donkey-dicked into never before seen levels of extreme drop lmao. To combat a pandemic... a bad one, granted. A new one. But nothing world ending, bro. We ended the world over it.
I have no doubt that corona is bad and there are areas with less treatment options for it and it's a nuanced issue. But damn near the whole world just shut down for a pandemic that wasnt even comparable to the severity of other more dangerous pandemics that didnt get anywhere near the level of reaction and didnt have anywhere near as devastating an effect on society. I just dont see how this seems to be kinda not that sketchy to so many people, ya kno? Either something is kinda up, or humans are really fuckin wildinnnnn dude. Our psychology has gotten body-slammed by modern society and mass culture. Regardless of if you know no one who got corona or your whole family died from it, it's undeniable that shit got wayyyyyy crazier in response to this pandemic than it even has in history. And it aint cuz the pandemic is the most dangerous thing to sweep across mankind.
Many restaurants and small businesses in Boston were shutting down the week before the government issued any guidance. Universities and even some public school systems too. Similar in NYC from what I heard at the time. All big events cancelled, pro sports shutting down, etc. My cousin's a hair stylist and her salon had to shut down because the staff was all sick, for a month. Things very well likely would have shut down on their own, but without government stimulus and pandemic unemployment, which is what's barely getting millions of people through this. We'll see it play out later this month, as the $600 checks stop coming but most businesses are shutting down or laying off because their customers are staying home.
Even if we were to say fuck it and let the young and healthy fend for themselves, ignoring the fact that many hospitals are filled with plenty of "young and healthy" people at the moment, there are still older and immunocompromized people in most work places. 40% of people are obese and more at risk. The likelihood of death may not be that worrisome for most, but hospitalization, months of being sick, and crippling after-effects are a common reality right now. I've heard people say we could keep at risk people at home, but who's to define who's at risk? Would the same americans who won't even wear a mask be perfectly okay with their coworkers getting paid to stay home while they had to stay and work?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: viraldrome]
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Yeah I understand everyone knows different amounts of people and areas vary in population.
I have a lot of clients, family and friends. None that have been sick, yet.
Was just wondering. I worry for my grandparents, parents and their siblings.
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Herbologist said: Does anyone know someone personally that has covid?
Not a friend of a friend or anything like that. Not a friend who's a nurse or doctor treating people.
Someone you actually know?
I've yet to meet someone.
- Not denying any of the info in this thread. Just genuinely curious..
I'm not on social media so I likely missed a bunch, but so far for me:
Great uncle: Had it then passed away from pneumonia as a result Great aunt: survived it, but is on hospice now. She had a ton of preexisting conditions Cousin #1 (30yo)- Hospitalized for a week, sick for 2+ months, still has breathing issues Cousin #2 (32yo)- Floored for a month Cousin #2's husband- Floored for a month. Mother in law: flu symptoms for a month, lack of smell for multiple months Wife's uncle: Hospitalized for a week now, he's fairly young but was already on dialysis Patient at my work: Passed away
Those are the confirmed ones I know. Quite a few more, including my mother, are suspected to have had it but their doctors are waiting for an accurate antibody test.
I think my county was like #6 in the world at one point for either cases or deaths. Pretty much every grocery store you went to you could google the name and it would say "____ Market workers test positive for COVID-19." Living with at-risk people, the paranoia is real.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Near Dylan]
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Near Dylan said: Ya'll seem like you consume way too much journalistic media. They successfully and easily trapped you into their cycle of self-perpetuating news stories. Ya'll are walking ads.
'2ez, noobs' - journalism outlets to the american population
I'll have you fukin know that I only ever listen to the BBC. They don't do ads.
Commercial tv and radio are garbage by comparison with their endless repeats of the same shite commercials selling the consumer dream.
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I got an email from corporate this afternoon that if we plan on using public transit (plane, train, or bus) or if we plan to travel to "hot spots" (California, Texas, Arizona, or Florida) we must notify HR.
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