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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: HamHead]
#26775339 - 06/22/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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pineninja said: Vitamin c helps him which is fine.
Wearing a mask may not only help him but also others...This is a fundamental violation of his LiBeRtY.
See, that's my point. You assume I am infected. And a mask is not helping me, you all have pounded that into my ham head many times, it's about me protecting you, remember?
So, if you already assume everyone is infected, why is there a need for a vaccine if everyone has it and developed antibodies. Isn't that what vaccines do, infect more people with a virus which we think will be a problem, many times missing what strain is actually circulating.
Nobody is assuming you are infected and nobody is assuming everyone is infected. Where the fuck do get this shit?
And you also have no clue what a vaccine is, apparently.
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#26775341 - 06/22/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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pineninja said: Vitamin c helps him which is fine.
Wearing a mask may not only help him but also others...This is a fundamental violation of his LiBeRtY.
See, that's my point. You assume I am infected. And a mask is not helping me, you all have pounded that into my ham head many times, it's about me protecting you, remember?
So, if you already assume everyone is infected, why is there a need for a vaccine if everyone has it and developed antibodies. Isn't that what vaccines do, infect more people with a virus which we think will be a problem, many times missing what strain is actually circulating.
So to your conceptual understanding there are two options.
We either all have it. Or None of us do.
You're a danger to others.
/hide moron.
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koods said: Yeah this idea that something has to work 100% perfectly or it’s useless is pretty fucking prevalent on a lot of topics around here. If you can’t save every life then what’s the point. People will still get shot despite gun control, so what’s the point. That guy isn’t wearing his mask right, so what’s the point.
I know, it's quite fascinating isn't it?
I can't figure it out at all.
Oh it’s easy to figure out. It’s how they attempt to undermine efforts to attain a certain goal because they are either too lazy or cynical to participate in the effort or are against attaining the goal.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26775361 - 06/22/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Nobody is assuming you are infected and nobody is assuming everyone is infected. Where the fuck do get this shit?
And you also have no clue what a vaccine is, apparently.
You assume I am infected when you tell me I have to wear a mask to protect others from being infected.
Get it?
Why don't you educate us on how vaccines work, koods.
Share your knowledge on vaccines.
I have a feeling you won't. Too lazy?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 7
#26775369 - 06/22/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Of course if you’re endlessly complaining about participating in a collective effort which takes almost zero personal effort that could have a major impact like preventing deaths on a massive scale, then you’re just a morally bankrupt piece of shit.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26775378 - 06/22/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: you’re just a morally bankrupt piece of shit.
And I honestly don't feel I am complaining. I've been posting all sorts of info, none of it read by you, that has nothing to do with mask.
I don't see many others trying to figure this shit out, only telling others to wear a mask and they're wrong and a public health hazard for not doing so.
When I go out and see overweight people filling grocery carts with junk food, yet I am responsible for their health by wearing a mask? GTFO.
I take care of my body and have zero worries about others not wearing mask because I have confidence in my immune system. Now, don't be smart and tell me to lick door knobs, because only ignorant toddlers do that sort of thing, and for good reason.
What were to happen if a baby grows up in a sterile bubble? And then is taken out of it's bubble without building an immune system and exposed to our world of bacteria and viruses?
Come on, play along in the pub.
What happens to that baby?
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#26775512 - 06/22/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I take care of my body and have zero worries about others not wearing mask because I have confidence in my immune system.
How do you not get that you getting infected is not just about you? Your infection is a danger to everyone else you come in contact with, and on top of that you have decided that you’re not gonna wear a mask because other people make poor health decisions. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 5
#26775518 - 06/22/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What were to happen if a baby grows up in a sterile bubble? And then is taken out of it's bubble without building an immune system and exposed to our world of bacteria and viruses?
Come on, play along in the pub.
What happens to that baby?
Jesus Christ you post some epically moronic shit
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26775523 - 06/22/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: What the fuck is wrong with you?
Simply your assumptions that I am infected.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26775535 - 06/22/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What were to happen if a baby grows up in a sterile bubble? And then is taken out of it's bubble without building an immune system and exposed to our world of bacteria and viruses?
Come on, play along in the pub.
What happens to that baby?
Jesus Christ you post some epically moronic shit
Yup. Because I am an ignorant toddler that can not think its way out of a wet paper bag.
Yet, I keep posting relevant info.
No one seems to read anything posed by HamHead because I don't wear a mask. Therefore, I am dumb and should be ignored.
Amirite?
As I'm seeing this on China in Focus.

It's no wonder we are seeing spikes in cases, look at all those test. Over 500,000 test and only 567 positives? 0.96% positive?
Whose numbers are these?
That curve looks awfully familiar, almost like a flu season. I can dig some of those pictures up too, to compare and contrast like scientists do.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: HamHead] 2
#26775907 - 06/23/20 05:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante]
#26775916 - 06/23/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shits taking off down south guess those idiots are as smart as they thought. I guess my state has the lowest infection rates and now we might have to close the borders even after all the infectes people from NYC came here now we have idiot snowbirds down south coming up just to be assholes cuz thier states not only are getting infected loke crazy i guess they're saying they don't have money or hospitals. So now we have a bunch idiots trying to mooch off our shit cuz they thought it was a good idea not to pay taxes.
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The New Yorkers flocked to Florida when they started locking down that state.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: HamHead] 3
#26775959 - 06/23/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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*BIG SIGH*
1. You provide numbers without context. That graph appears to be NY, which is not representative of the nation. You know why? THEY WORE FUCKING MASKS. THEY SHUT DOWN. THEY STAYED INSIDE. THEY WASHED THEIR GODDAMN HANDS.
2. China In Focus was started by members of Falun Gong who were exiled from China due to their spiritual beliefs. They have been branded as "right leaning". They have a vested interest in making China look bad and presenting the "CCP Virus" in the worst possible light. Not saying they don't post relevant information, but it should be taken with a grain of salt and independent research should occur to form a properly informed opinion.
3. I don't see a 500k number anywhere on that picture you posted.
4. I read the whole post and I don't understand how a graph of the flu season as a whole will accurately compare to NY alone as the "evidence" you have posted below.
5. You have invested a ton more energy into not wearing a mask and defending that position than you would wearing that mask for the 5 minutes you're inside the grocery store.
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No a fuckload of them came to connecticut. Every other car on the road at one point was ney york or new jersey. Back then we didn't shut the borders where as rhode island had border roadblocks telling out of state people to either turn back or drive straight thru without stopping. They had cops pulling over out of state plates and issuing tickets. Shit was pretty nuts cuz back then it was right at the peak and it was hard to get solid information on actual mortality and infections or even any idea what was going on. At the time it was very hard to get to Florida from anywhere in the tri state. Where as it seems like anyone with a car left Manhatten to jump the boarder to CT. We also had to shut everything down even tho most ppl were social distancing cuz we had our stuff open and everyone just jumped the boarder and mobbed us and that was that.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: HamHead] 3
#26775976 - 06/23/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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HamHead said: I am an ignorant toddler that can not think its way out of a wet paper bag.
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HamHead said: I am dumb and should be ignored.

And here I was, thinking you were incapable of rational thought.
Progress!
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
#26775978 - 06/23/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lol theyre saying down south the infection rate could be as high as 15%. Maybe u shouldn't have been talking shit this whole time huh red states?
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We had cops at our borders too, chief. Stopping NY or NJ plates, taking their information, and asking them to quarantine. We had 100+ flights a day come in from NYC. Connecticut wasn’t the only one that got flooded.
Here’s a map from the New York Times proving my point.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/16/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-moving-leaving.html
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Well now we have a bunch stinky north Carolina people everywhere. Stay out of my state rona dodgers!
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Yeah, PA got flooded too. We always get flooded with people from NY and NJ looking to escape their urban hells(...no offense to urban hells, I'm quite fond of them) so it made sense that we'd get flooded with the same set and probably more during the rona panic.
Hasn't been an issue though. The New Yorkers and New Jerseyans have been keen to quarantine and aren't pitching fits about masks, so I don't care. A good portion of people in state definitely commuted over there for work and brought it back anyway, there's just so much travel between the northeast that it made sense that we were initially trying to go about the reopening pact. Seems like for the most part it's been upheld and things are on the decline.
Honestly as much as I love to bitch about NY and NJ, I cannot complain being their neighbor - I would not want to be in Georgia or Oklahoma near the FL/TX borders tho. Things might get bad again, but we know how to flatten the curve and we'll probably do it better and more efficiently next time here in the northeast, I hope.
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