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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26759910 - 06/20/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'd say man has done a pretty good job at fighting death.

Folly in the end for sure but the society we have is a result of stalling death.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #26759916 - 06/20/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I disagree because it hasnt and wont kill millions. yall said it was going to kill millions back in February.



That’s because we did something about it 🤦‍♂️


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: feevers]
    #26759922 - 06/20/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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We're literally the product of an evolutionary drive based upon survival and reproduction.




That's fucking. Fucking isnt trying to control death like say, praying to imaginary beings or taking fish tank cleaner.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26759932 - 06/20/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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mushboy said:
I disagree because it hasnt and wont kill millions. yall said it was going to kill millions back in February.



That’s because we did something about it 🤦‍♂️




You mean, the masks no one wears correctly?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26760021 - 06/20/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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would people think its funny if scientists released a statement that anyone who has contracted covid19 is now sterile?




Of course not.  It would be awful.  What is your point?




Was not trying to make a point. Just asking a question..

Though I suppose to squeeze a point out of it, there are still a lot of unknowns, and a something 'down the line' discovery - though maybe not as exaggerated as sterility, would really make the population think twice about what in retrospect seems to have been a haphazard and disorderly approach to this entire situation (of which I am certainly guilty at times as well). I think the covid levity would stop right quick at the discovery of something like this - it would be interesting to see how the world collectively responded.

Though to be clear, I hope its just a really shitty cold with no lingering effects...


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26760115 - 06/20/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
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I disagree because it hasnt and wont kill millions. yall said it was going to kill millions back in February.



That’s because we did something about it 🤦‍♂️




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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26760118 - 06/20/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I’ve never seen people take larping as far as dying on a ventilator.  Must be a dedicated bunch.  Also, edited for flaming.




I was not aware that someone in this thread was also dying on a ventilator.

Also, to those throwing around big death toll numbers, remember there are over 7,500,000,000 humans on the Earth right now, so that is only 0.006% of the population.  1 million people is only 0.013%.  It isn't that dramatic on a global scale.  Discussing numbers is not wishing ill on anyone.  The point here is that reactionary policies put in place driven by panic and fear with lack of foresight is negatively impacting at least 90% of the global population.

Just read in the USA, that guess who is effected most negatively by the lockdown?  Minorities, women, and low income earners. 


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26760170 - 06/20/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I disagree because it hasnt and wont kill millions. yall said it was going to kill millions back in February.



That’s because we did something about it 🤦‍♂️



So our miserable failure of a response at a country, state, county, city, and individual level was good enough now. God damn you're hard to follow.
Because it was deplorable a couple replies ago, but now it's a useful excuse.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26760208 - 06/20/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Dude I was thinking the same thing..not about koods but just in general.

At one time it's our savior and other times it's a disaster:shrug:

I just think it's a disaster:lol:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: mushboy] * 2
    #26760226 - 06/20/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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We're literally the product of an evolutionary drive based upon survival and reproduction.




That's fucking. Fucking isnt trying to control death like say, praying to imaginary beings or taking fish tank cleaner.




Reproduction (fucking) alone isn't nearly enough to counteract death. Another element is needed. Multiple elements, truth be told. one must struggle against death to even reach reproductive age. Survival of the fittest, and all that.

But there's another element needed, and that's nurturing. we are born helpless and unable to fend for themselves. Cooperation allows creatures to fight death far more effectively than they can alone. Survival of the friendliest. Here's a fascinating article about it, in fact:

http://m.nautil.us/issue/75/story/survival-of-the-friendliest-rp

People have been indoctrinated in the every man for himself, macho man, do everything mindset all their lives, not realizing the ridiculously MASSIVE power of cooperation compared to the individual. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. There's a reason why technology has advanced at a dramatic pace since the internet was invented.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26760246 - 06/20/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
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koods said:
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mushboy said:
I disagree because it hasnt and wont kill millions. yall said it was going to kill millions back in February.



That’s because we did something about it 🤦‍♂️



So our miserable failure of a response at a country, state, county, city, and individual level was good enough now. God damn you're hard to follow.
Because it was deplorable a couple replies ago, but now it's a useful excuse.




Where did I say it was good enough? We’ve had 20,000 cases a day for months.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26760258 - 06/20/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I’ve never seen people take larping as far as dying on a ventilator.  Must be a dedicated bunch.  Also, edited for flaming.




I was not aware that someone in this thread was also dying on a ventilator.

Also, to those throwing around big death toll numbers, remember there are over 7,500,000,000 humans on the Earth right now, so that is only 0.006% of the population.  1 million people is only 0.013%.  It isn't that dramatic on a global scale.  Discussing numbers is not wishing ill on anyone.  The point here is that reactionary policies put in place driven by panic and fear with lack of foresight is negatively impacting at least 90% of the global population.

Just read in the USA, that guess who is effected most negatively by the lockdown?  Minorities, women, and low income earners. 



Cigarettes kill a half a million people a year in just the US...:shrug:

CDC says they kill more than 8 million people a year worldwide...


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Amanita86]
    #26760291 - 06/20/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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InfiniteDreams said:
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The Blind Ass said:
I’ve never seen people take larping as far as dying on a ventilator.  Must be a dedicated bunch.  Also, edited for flaming.




I was not aware that someone in this thread was also dying on a ventilator.

Also, to those throwing around big death toll numbers, remember there are over 7,500,000,000 humans on the Earth right now, so that is only 0.006% of the population.  1 million people is only 0.013%.  It isn't that dramatic on a global scale.  Discussing numbers is not wishing ill on anyone.  The point here is that reactionary policies put in place driven by panic and fear with lack of foresight is negatively impacting at least 90% of the global population.

Just read in the USA, that guess who is effected most negatively by the lockdown?  Minorities, women, and low income earners. 



Cigarettes kill a half a million people a year in just the US...:shrug:

CDC says they kill more than 8 million people a year worldwide...




Have you ever been to a hospital with 300 people (100 in the Intensive Care) at one time admitted for inhaling second-hand cigarette smoke?

If so, did this still somehow occur during a time where your government had either urged or mandated people to stay away from public areas where people would be exhaling cigarette smoke towards each other?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams] * 1
    #26760309 - 06/20/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Just read in the USA, that guess who is effected most negatively by the lockdown?  Minorities, women, and low income earners. 




So, the same people that are negatively effected by most things in the current system we have?

A viral pandemic is a perfectly predictable event. You could fill a book with the amount of peer-reviewed journal articles warning that this, and worse, were and are inevitable.

The lockdown wasn't handled optimally at all, but virtually everyone educated in virology and epidemiology agrees it was the right choice.

The fact that we have a system that is rigged so the rich prosper more and the poor lose more any time there's a crisis shouldn't be an excuse to forgo public health action.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams] * 4
    #26760319 - 06/20/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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The Blind Ass said:
I’ve never seen people take larping as far as dying on a ventilator.  Must be a dedicated bunch.  Also, edited for flaming.




I was not aware that someone in this thread was also dying on a ventilator.

Also, to those throwing around big death toll numbers, remember there are over 7,500,000,000 humans on the Earth right now, so that is only 0.006% of the population.  1 million people is only 0.013%.  It isn't that dramatic on a global scale.  Discussing numbers is not wishing ill on anyone.  The point here is that reactionary policies put in place driven by panic and fear with lack of foresight is negatively impacting at least 90% of the global population.

Just read in the USA, that guess who is effected most negatively by the lockdown?  Minorities, women, and low income earners. 



Who gives a turtle shit about the population of earth when you're burying family members fuck off


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26760334 - 06/20/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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InfiniteDreams said:
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The Blind Ass said:
I’ve never seen people take larping as far as dying on a ventilator.  Must be a dedicated bunch.  Also, edited for flaming.





Just read in the USA, that guess who is effected most negatively by the lockdown?  Minorities, women, and low income earners. 



Who gives a turtle shit about the population of earth when you're burying family members fuck off




I'm not burying family members, are you?  I don't agree with you that emotional debate should triumph over abstract reasoning.  You realize emotion doesn't have a place in  mathematics?

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So, the same people that are negatively effected by most things in the current system we have?




Correct, instead of helping those segments of society, the system is actually hurting them further (while marketing that they are helping).  If it wasn't for the tragedy there would be a lot of humor.

I predict 10 years from now, coronavirus is going to be fodder for comedians, the same way 9/11 was. 


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #26760341 - 06/20/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It’s amazing to me how many otherwise intelligent people don’t make sense on this topic. I mean in general. I think it’s probably in part a sensitivity to risk and danger thing.

There’s so much we still do not know about covid-19. Especially longitudinally. What sort of chronic health issues may follow, in what proportion of survivors? How much will this cost and burden future healthcare?  Having lawyers and businessmen determine how this is handled is just a total mismatch and is just unfortunate. They’re taking a gamble with humanity’s health and future. Giving this thing more people to infect and opportunities to evolve and survive into the future is not wise.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: mushboy]
    #26760355 - 06/20/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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No I think it's kinda pointless.

Viruses are nature. We are nature. Nature wants us dead? Were dead.

Trying to control death has always been mans folly. We have survived all this time on earth(relatively short) because nature has a balance. Modern man seems hell bent on disturbing that balance. I say let nature do its thing. If I die so what? What's my life on earth/the universes timeline?




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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams] * 3
    #26760357 - 06/20/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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So, the same people that are negatively effected by most things in the current system we have?




Correct, instead of helping those segments of society, the system is actually hurting them further.




So, it's working as designed?

Maybe if the structure of our society interferes with our ability to make necessary public healthy decisions, during lose-lose situations both in terms of life/death and the economy, we should restructure our society to better weather these completely predictable and inevitable disasters.

Maybe this was the warning we needed, and instead of trying to play off the right decision as a wrong one, we should push our leaders to take immediate action so we're better equipped when the next one comes around, which it will.

Wildfires, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes... those haven't gone away. We very well could experience some major ones right around the point where we see the virus really start to peak.

But restructuring a society isn't exactly possible when our election is a choice between two aging corporate shills with rapidly diminishing mental capacities. I feel like we're all sitting around playing poker on a cruise ship that's already sinking and the storm is still miles away. I'm in a bit of pessimistic mood right now though :lol:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pineninja]
    #26760367 - 06/20/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Risk is inherent with living.  You are constantly balanced on a razor's edge and your life could end at any moment for many reasons entirely outside of your control.  You are constantly in danger, every moment in every place.  There is no shelter, there is no certainty.

"The future's uncertain and the end is always near." - Doors 1970

Most people can't deal with that to the extent of imagining a reality that they are safe in.  And lash out against anyone who would dare pop that bubble.  And they are not intelligent enough to comprehend the bubble.

Funny on these boards, because I though tripping often stripped away all the charade and exposed our fragile beings at the whimsy of the universe.


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