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OfflineTripsurfer
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26741427 - 06/13/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Dude, Ibuprofen is the worst to take when you have Covid-19

Dont take ibuprofen! :nono:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26741442 - 06/13/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My state is gonna be going to green soon, even in the harder hit areas.


:resignednonacceptance:


Making me a bit nervous. I feel like it's silly to discontinue mask use as long as things are the way they are in other states. I'm gonna start slowly prepping for winter though, see if I can get a few more legit N95s at some point.

I'm super glad we're getting to the point where the economy can operate at fuller capacity, I just feel like if we want it to stay open we should just continue wearing masks? Is that like a terribly hard sacrifice to make?


I'm definitely gonna try and up my vigilance a bit, it's been getting more lax(myself as well) lately and I don't want to be caught up in this second wave at the very beginning. I think I've finally figured out how to find a balance between safety and sanity so I'm gonna just keep doing that. I can deal with socially distanced fire pit hang outs the rest of the summer.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #26741445 - 06/13/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

HamHead said:
Quote:

psi said:
I'm agreeing with you.




I'm so confused lately, thanks for making this clear.

:raisemyglass:




Probably because you've been locked into this algorithm bubble since Mar 31.

I'm guessing the medics, ask 'morrow', have progressed in their undersatnding of this disease, and how to treat it, since then.

>"treatments and much science that had already been collected with SARS, MERS".
Are different diseases which require different treatments which the medics are stil trying to get a grip of. You know why they call it novel?


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Something tells me I'd better activate my prayer capsule


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: deucedbi9]
    #26741485 - 06/13/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26741507 - 06/13/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

gyms, food, entertainment are all fucced and will fuck us all when they open


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26741522 - 06/13/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

pirate-blues said:
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/inspiring-story-of-seattle-mans-coronavirus-survival-comes-with-a-1-1-million-dollar-hospital-bill/



Thankgod for insurance and supplemental medicare. This country is fucking broken.




Yes, let's thank god.

:nojustno:

70 years old that man.

“I feel guilty about surviving,” he says. “There’s a sense of ‘why me?’ Why did I deserve all this? Looking at the incredible cost of it all definitely adds to that survivor’s guilt.”

"The list of charges indirectly tells the story of Flor’s battle. For the two days when his heart, kidneys and lungs were all failing and he was nearest death, the bill runs for 20 pages and totals nearly $100,000 as doctors “were throwing everything at me they could think of,” Flor says."


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #26741615 - 06/13/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

HamHead said:
Quote:

pirate-blues said:
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/inspiring-story-of-seattle-mans-coronavirus-survival-comes-with-a-1-1-million-dollar-hospital-bill/



Thankgod for insurance and supplemental medicare. This country is fucking broken.




Yes, let's thank god.

:nojustno:

70 years old that man.

“I feel guilty about surviving,” he says. “There’s a sense of ‘why me?’ Why did I deserve all this? Looking at the incredible cost of it all definitely adds to that survivor’s guilt.”

"The list of charges indirectly tells the story of Flor’s battle. For the two days when his heart, kidneys and lungs were all failing and he was nearest death, the bill runs for 20 pages and totals nearly $100,000 as doctors “were throwing everything at me they could think of,” Flor says."




Do you have an issue with spending that on a 70 years old man?

While I acknowledge it's a shitload of money to spend on what is, compared to someone of your age, a fukin lot for such a short amount of 'extra time'. I am more concerned when they would spend that money against my will, even though they haven't even had the courtesy of asking my opinion: "would you like us to keep you alive for the next x years, even though you are never going to regain the autonomy of wiping your own arse, Mr Deuced".

I would like the opportunity to tell these mofo 'soul vampires in dog collars' or their lordships, to get the fuck away from the end of my metaphorical deathbed, and let me go at time of my own fukin choosing!


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even though I'm feeling good
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: deucedbi9]
    #26741872 - 06/13/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
    #26741876 - 06/13/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

HamHead said:
Quote:

pirate-blues said:
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/inspiring-story-of-seattle-mans-coronavirus-survival-comes-with-a-1-1-million-dollar-hospital-bill/



Thankgod for insurance and supplemental medicare. This country is fucking broken.




Yes, let's thank god.

:nojustno:

70 years old that man.

“I feel guilty about surviving,” he says. “There’s a sense of ‘why me?’ Why did I deserve all this? Looking at the incredible cost of it all definitely adds to that survivor’s guilt.”

"The list of charges indirectly tells the story of Flor’s battle. For the two days when his heart, kidneys and lungs were all failing and he was nearest death, the bill runs for 20 pages and totals nearly $100,000 as doctors “were throwing everything at me they could think of,” Flor says."




Do you have an issue with spending that on a 70 years old man?

While I acknowledge it's a shitload of money to spend on what is, compared to someone of your age, a fukin lot for such a short amount of 'extra time'. I am more concerned when they would spend that money against my will, even though they haven't even had the courtesy of asking my opinion: "would you like us to keep you alive for the next x years, even though you are never going to regain the autonomy of wiping your own arse, Mr Deuced".

I would like the opportunity to tell these mofo 'soul vampires in dog collars' or their lordships, to get the fuck away from the end of my metaphorical deathbed, and let me go at time of my own fukin choosing!







I was legitimately going to apologize for being such a bitch to hamhead in this thread because I know I get a little testy, but at best he is a massive troll.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: deucedbi9]
    #26741887 - 06/13/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I may have posted this previously, but here it is again.

For those of you with shortened attention spans, skip to 50:36. Particularly minute 56.



Too bad people don't watch this stuff, really explains a lot.

:Trollface:


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead]
    #26741921 - 06/13/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

He’s not saying anything new.  It’s good info, but what about it?

Or are you just pointing out how ridiculous some people can be about the ongoing current situation? 

You can’t fault people for being afraid of it though,  Being sick is a nightmare and nobody wants to die an untimely death to a virus like that.


Edited by The Blind Ass (06/13/20 02:32 PM)


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26742169 - 06/13/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

some of this stuff was new to me, the vulnerabilities that may be caused by the widespread use of ACE inhibitors, statins and ARBs,  but given that there wasn't a national coordinated response that did the things that he suggests, assuming that they are correct,  then the preventive measures such as masks and social distances are warranted if only to serve as buffer from overwhelming the healthcare system.

I  think it will be a miracle if we don't see a resurgence everywhere in the next month, mask discipline is shot to shit in stores that have opened, not the grocery mind you but other retailers who aren't monitoring shoppers. I saw half the people either not wearing a mask or wearing it improperly, about a third not wearing at all and about a sixth of the people with their nose uncovered or removing their mask to talk at a major retailer today. It's probably the same at other retailers.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: falcon] * 1
    #26742401 - 06/13/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Discipline? Lol can’t leave mask wearing to discipline it has to be part of a coherent message, narrative and modeled by our “leaders.” Can’t really fault these people entirely, because the information being fed to us is generally shit. I doubt many of us are actually looking at the primary sources and emerging literature on this virus.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: psi] * 3
    #26742479 - 06/13/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

psi said:
I'm agreeing with you. Medical researchers should be clocking hundreds of hours on youtube to get the latest and most trustworthy info. Yet some are unwilling to do even a single hour of youtube research. It's sad that they would turn up their noses at such a reliable source of medical knowledge. Instead they would rather support the medical journal racket. Shameful.



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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pineninja]
    #26742714 - 06/13/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:panic:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
    #26742789 - 06/13/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'm already seeing people around the east bay being careless. I'm all for shit starting to reopen, but people gotta be careful and keep wearing masks until a vaccine is available.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: breeg89]
    #26742851 - 06/13/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

breeg89 said:
keep wearing masks until a vaccine is available.




You mean, for the rest of our lives?

:badtrip:

This mentality will doom us. There will not a vaccine for coronavirus. Again, work is and has been done developing a coronavirus vaccine since 2002 SARS. After two years it was gone and still research is being done for a vaccine.

But keep looking. People still believe in unicorns.



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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead] * 3
    #26742880 - 06/13/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You dont know shit about fuck... hamhead

:nonono:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
    #26742896 - 06/13/20 10:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Cosmic_Flame said:
You dont know shit about fuck... hamhead

:nonono:




Seriously? That's all you've got?

Get lost.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead]
    #26742904 - 06/13/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

no u

:pleasetellmemore:


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