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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26685932 - 05/21/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Not really, the antibody tests we used arent accurate enough to be personally useful imo. I think better ones have been develooed but havent been scaled up for implementation yet. Even if you come back positive it doesnt mean you definitely had covid19 so practically speaking it wouldnt change anything about what I do at or outside of work

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: bodhisatta] * 8
    #26685939 - 05/21/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
I'm fairly confident in my assessments. I'll go ahead and sound like a pompous egotistical dick but my research skills are better than 98% of people here.



You grow a couple of mushrooms and post a few articles in your life and suddenly you're a world class researcher? You, LOL.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26685941 - 05/21/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Gotcha. Yeah I was wondering if the accuracy had improved some. Hopefully that gets scaled up relatively fast.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26685944 - 05/21/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If researching means engaging in active confirmation bias then yes bodhi is highly skilled at it

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26685950 - 05/21/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I agree masks are dumb and possibly more detrimental

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26685952 - 05/21/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

unless ur like lit changing to a brand new one every 20mins or whatever in which case ur an asshole cuz doctors and shit need those

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 2
    #26685968 - 05/21/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Youre not agreeing with me
:facepalm:

You literally just pulled that out of your ass. We spend two weeks of school just learning how to wash our hands and wear ppe correctly. It works when you do it right.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26685973 - 05/21/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
I agree masks are ... possibly more detrimental



Why is this?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26686019 - 05/21/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Because he heard it somewhere. :stonedjerk:
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pirate-blues said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/K-N95-Mask-KN-95-Face-Mask-Protective-Respirator-Disposable-Masks-ShipFreeFast/283876708031?hash=item42185ecebf:m:mTwRZztgkdo8Zo9chiReyRg

KN95s are available on ebay, with free shipping.



I ordered 2 Tues. night for back-up, they did ship free, and I got them today before lunch.:super:
They shipped from Delaware but are made in China as pretty much everything is today.
I like that they are individually sealed in plastic packaging and appear sterile.
I may get a few more at that price.

And as I said before,
"Any anti-maskers out there can kindly go fuck themselves." :yesnod:

Be well and safe everyone else. :hug:(at a safe distance):smirk:
:sarsboy: . . . :peace:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: vinsue]
    #26686021 - 05/21/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Spray them with lysol (both sides) and let them dry, that's an extra precaution before wearing.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26686079 - 05/21/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Just checked ppe stats. Medical center is currently using 499k gloves, 100k surgical masks and 5k n95s per day:eek:. Apparently no concerns abour shortages though




I'm seeing a girl who's an ER nurse.  She tells me they don't have gowns.  They have to collect the ones they use at the end of each shift to be washed.  All of the hospitals around here are asking for ANY kind of masks from the community, even cloth ones.  They're also asking for stuff like gowns, shoe covers, etc. 

Gloves, tho....seems like every place has gloves.

She's scared and has panic attacks at night thinking that she will get it.  She's angry at her hospital for not protecting the nurses.  She tells me she didn't sign up for this when she became a nurse.  She says people (friends, family) are afraid of her giving them COVID.  She says sometimes when people hear she's a nurse, they recoil in horror.

I feel bad for her.  I wish I could buy her a case of gowns, but I don't know where you buy those from.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #26686090 - 05/21/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yup, people noticeably cringe away when i mention what i do for work. That is unfortunate about the ppe. We are lucky in my city to have so many resources available

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
    #26686098 - 05/21/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

don't spray them with lysol are people really this fucking dumb about masks? Do any of you geniuses have any concept of a .03 micron virus? The masks filter the smallest particles by static charge which lysol will totally ruin. If they get wet even from simple condensation from ur breath everything that the outside touches is just going to wick thru. Unless u have a perfect seal its worthless. Ur walking around with a petri dish on your face.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26686121 - 05/21/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Lysol has a shitload of alcohol heres a study about the electstatic filtration and dipping the thing in alcohol https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10957816/

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26686126 - 05/21/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ya but masks and face coverings still stop droplets. Ergo, everyone wears a mask, transmission goes down. Goes away? No. But goes down? Yes. Significantly. This is being proven over and over again in countries like Austria, Germany, and states in the northeast where transmission has dropped more than 300% in some areas. The thing is everyone has to be compliant. Yes, people are morons, yes some of them will fuck it up completely, but less will. You can still mitigate the transmission rate, and that takes the stress off of our healthcare system, which is the name of the game. Having some of the best hospitals in the world doesn't mean shit if there are no ICU beds left.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26686127 - 05/21/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Also how much money did it cost for you to spend two weeks learing how to use a nail brush? Those people should be put in jail. Unbelievable

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26686129 - 05/21/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I dont sterilize my masks with anything but uv light from the sun.

Fitted masks are definitely better but it is asinine to imply that youre just as likely to catch covid19 wearing an n95 that doesnt fit perfectly as you are freefacing it

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 2
    #26686133 - 05/21/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
don't spray them with lysol are people really this fucking dumb about masks? Do any of you geniuses have any concept of a .03 micron virus? The masks filter the smallest particles by static charge which lysol will totally ruin. If they get wet even from simple condensation from ur breath everything that the outside touches is just going to wick thru. Unless u have a perfect seal its worthless. Ur walking around with a petri dish on your face.




You don’t understand what the masks do for the general public. They aren’t for filtering out virus. They are preventing virus from being accelerated away from your face.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26686135 - 05/21/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Ya but masks and face coverings still stop droplets. Ergo, everyone wears a mask, transmission goes down. Goes away? No. But goes down? Yes. Significantly. This is being proven over and over again in countries like Austria, Germany, and states in the northeast where transmission has dropped more than 300% in some areas. The thing is everyone has to be compliant. Yes, people are morons, yes some of them will fuck it up completely, but less will. You can still mitigate the transmission rate, and that takes the stress off of our healthcare system, which is the name of the game. Having some of the best hospitals in the world doesn't mean shit if there are no ICU beds left.



Again .03 micron virus. Computationally model the fluid dynamics in an accurate way that and proves it then or something.  All I'm saying is im skeptical.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
    #26686137 - 05/21/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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koods said:
They are preventing virus from being accelerated away from your face.



QFT.


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