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#26658359 - 05/08/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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some of the people in this thread are definitely in a better position to know what they are talking about than you are how would you even know if they were or weren't? I can go up to any colleague who has never worked with a covid19 patient and say "dont worry about the greenish precipitate when you draw the CBC on 525, over half of them look like that, they can still run it but send it fast because they tend to hemolyze more quickly", they will know exactly what I mean. Do you know what I mean?
There are a lot of things I don't know about. I don't know about physics. I don't know much about history. When I want to know something about those subjects without going to the trouble of getting a whole career in them, I ask my question to the people who HAVE spent years worth of effort learning about them, I don't just throw up my hands and say, "Well nobody really knows anything anyway"
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LogicaL Chaos said: I wanna see cats wrestle each other with like really HD cameras. Thatd be pretty sweet 
pay per view cat wrestling

why not domestic house cats be taking down human beings now (maybe little human beings but I digress)
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#26658418 - 05/08/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Perhaps a doctor who knows what’s going on would tell you to relax and take a few deep breaths...
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#26658420 - 05/08/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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cats carry corona
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#26658424 - 05/08/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Literally anyone with medical credentials can become a millionaire right now just by pretending COVID is a hoax.
All it takes is one video and a gofundme or patreon.
Some lady that owns a hair salon got 500k just for her "protest"
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
#26658436 - 05/08/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don’t know if it was a “protest” so much as she was trying to feed her kids. I only saw the news article so it’s anyone’s guess..
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: Perhaps a doctor who knows what’s going on would tell you to relax and take a few deep breaths...
Perhaps they would do that... if the truth were the opposite of what it is.
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#26658446 - 05/08/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I don’t know if it was a “protest” so much as she was trying to feed her kids. I only saw the news article so it’s anyone’s guess..
I have loads of food she can have to feed her children. I planted a garden in mid march that is already about to yield me more squash, tomatoes, beans, peas, eggplant, okra, leeks, and more than I can realistically eat. God forbid she also take an interest in self-sufficiency, I would spare her the need by simply giving her and her children some of my food (and there are churches and food pantries everywhere that will do the same), but I promise you, she would still have done what she did, because it wasn't about feeding her children.
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#26658458 - 05/08/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I don’t know if it was a “protest” so much as she was trying to feed her kids. I only saw the news article so it’s anyone’s guess..
I'm in Dallas so I know that story quite well. Nah it wasn't a protest per se.
She just opened her salon up before they lifted the stay at home order.
Ill advised perhaps but I really can't judge anyone who owns a small business who relies solely on the funds of their business for them, their family, and their employees -- to want to start making some money again.
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morrowasted said: but I promise you, she would still have done what she did, because it wasn't about feeding her children.
I don't know her so I'm in no position to judge. All I know is they interviewed her staff on the local news and they were all for it and seemed desperate to start making money again. Her employees wanted to open the salon up again as badly as she did I think.
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#26658483 - 05/08/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I don’t know if it was a “protest” so much as she was trying to feed her kids. I only saw the news article so it’s anyone’s guess..
It was a PR stunt by a group that literally calls themselves "The Woke Patriots". The government had already approved her for the money to pay her/her employees wages and cover the bills. (Not to mention whatever unemployment and stimulus she received)
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If all of this feels like a particularly effective PR stunt, well, that certainly seems accurate: the GoFundMe campaign—run by a group calling themselves “Woke Patriots”—was created on April 23, one day before Luther reopened her salon. “We researched her and her cause,” campaign organizer Rick Hire wrote on the page, “and decided that we would approach her and offer to support her as our first patriot cause. She accepted our offer.”
Luther argued at a court hearing that she needed to open the salon for financial reasons. “I have hairstylists that are going hungry because they’d rather feed their kids,” she said. “So, sir, if you think the law is more important than kids getting fed, then please go ahead with your decision, but I am not going to shut the salon.” Paying bills and keeping families fed are understandable concerns, but by the time Luther made her argument, the situation—for her, at least—wasn’t quite so dire: two days earlier, she had been approved for a government loan under the Paycheck Protection Program, a loan that can be forgiven in full if at least 75 percent of the money is used to pay employee salaries. (The rest can go toward expenses like rent and utilities, and still qualify for loan forgiveness.) And now, of course—while Luther is able to cut all the hair she wants under the new order from Abbott—she’s also $500,000 richer.
Her neighbors, though, haven’t been so lucky. The music store Fiddle & Bow, which shares a courtyard with Salon à la Mode, has been dealing with armed supporters of Luther’s outside of her salon, waving Gadsden flags and carrying semiautomatic rifles and handguns. “You cannot get into my shop without walking through the crowd of demonstrating people,” owner Rob Case told the Dallas Observer. “I’m not so much intimidated by the weapons—I’ve been around them my whole life. I’m really intimidated by the lack of social distancing. It’s not safe out there.”
Luther told the Observer that she believes demonstrators would leave if she asked them to, but doing so would be “hypocritical” and violate the very principles that led her to reopen. Meanwhile, Case says that while he relates to Luther as a fellow business owner, he’s concerned about reopening while customers would have to pass through a crowd of people to come in. “I don’t want my customers to all fall ill and make me sick and have my elderly family members drop dead because of it,” he said.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texasmonthly.com/news/dallas-salon-arrest-gofundme/amp/
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Niffla] 2
#26658494 - 05/08/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Her employees wanted to open the salon up again as badly as she did I think.
Yeah, a lot of people do. I get it. I got a lot of friends from my old job who want to go back to work (EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE STILL GETTING PAID AT FULL TIME HOURS TO SIT AT HOME) simply to be able to get overtime hours so they can make enough money to afford drugs and booze again (the 1200 they got is alone more than enough for rent and groceries here even if they werent getting full time pay to not work), and that is more important to them. The fact that people are willing to go back to work doesn't make it a good idea. Doing peoples' hair necessitates being very close to them. These people may be willing to risk their own lives, but the nature of the virus is such that a given person could infect hundreds of clientele in a few weeks without ever knowing they themselves had it. Texas wanted to increase the availability of testing dramatically prior to opening up that type of businesses so that it could be done safely. They have a plan to do that, and salons are scheduled to reopen in 10 days.
In any case, it's totally disingenuous for 99% of people in this country to be claiming the reason they need to work right now is because they "can't put food on the table." Tell me where you live, and we can figure out together where your local churches and food banks and such are.
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she cut ted cruz's hair today
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Nothing political going on at all
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#26658540 - 05/08/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I gotta admit though, as far as strictly business goes, she just hit big
half a mil raised for her for spending a a few days in jail and a few fines
and she just got the best marketing ever, it's now the most famous salon in the city of Dallas and supposedly it's booked solid for the next couple months or something
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#26658541 - 05/08/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cannabis extracts are showing potential in making people more resistant to the novel coronavirus, says an Alberta researcher leading a study.
After sifting through 400 cannabis strains, researchers at the University of Lethbridge are concentrating on about a dozen that show promising results in ensuring less fertile ground for the potentially lethal virus to take root, said biological scientist Dr. Igor Kovalchuk.
“A number of them have reduced the number of these (virus) receptors by 73 per cent, the chance of it getting in is much lower,” said Kovalchuk.
“If they can reduce the number of receptors, there’s much less chance of getting infected.”
Employing cannabis sativa strains over the past three months, the researcher said the effective balance between cannabis components THC and CBD — the latter more typically associated with medical use — is still unclear in blocking the novel coronavirus.
“It will take a long time to find what the active ingredient is — there may be many,” said Kovalchuk, whose Pathway RX is owned partly by Olds-based licensed cannabis producer Sundial Growers and partnered with Alberta cannabis researcher Swysh.
But it’s generally the anti-inflammatory properties of high-CBD content that have shown most promise, he added.
“We focus more on the higher CBD because people can take higher doses and not be impaired,” said Kovalchuk.
The study under Health Canada licence using artificial human 3-D tissue models has been seeking ways to hinder the highly contagious novel coronavirus from finding a host in the lungs, intestines, and oral cavity.
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If successful, the work could find practical medical use in the form of mouth wash, gargle, inhalants or gel caps, said Kovalchuk.
“It would be cheaper for people and have a lot less side-effects,” he said.
But the absence of clinical trials remains a barrier, and funding from an increasingly cash-strapped cannabis industry isn’t there to fuel that, said Kovalchuk.
“We have clinicians who are willing to work with us but for a lot of companies in the cannabis business, it’s significant cash that they can’t afford,” he said.
The scientist emphasized the findings wouldn’t lead to a vaccine — something “less specific and precise” but nonetheless another possible weapon against COVID-19.
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“The extracts of our most successful and novel high CBD C sativa lines, pending further investigation, may become a useful and safe addition to the treatment of COVID-19 as an adjunct therapy,” said Kovalchuk.
“Given the current dire and rapidly evolving epidemiological situation, every possible therapeutic opportunity and avenue must be considered.”
Israeli researchers have begun clinical trials of CBD as a treatment to repair cells damaged by COVID-19 by using its anti-inflammatory abilities.
It’s thought CBD could enhance the traditional effect of steroids in such treatment of patients in life-threatening condition and also bolster the immune system.
It’s the kind of research and his own that deserves government support in Canada, whose federal government has pledged $1.1 billion in funding for COVID-19 research said the U of L scientist.
“Our work could have a huge influence — there aren’t many drugs that have the potential of reducing infection by 70 to 80 per cent,” he said.
https://calgaryherald.com/cannabis/cannabis-shows-promise-blocking-coronavirus-infection-alberta-researcher/
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Niffla]
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Niffla said: I gotta admit though, as far as strictly business goes, she just hit big
half a mil raised for her for spending a a few days in jail and a few fines
and she just got the best marketing ever, it's now the most famous salon in the city of Dallas and supposedly it's booked solid for the next couple months or something
is she any good at doing hair tho?
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#26658550 - 05/08/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Niffla said: I gotta admit though, as far as strictly business goes, she just hit big
half a mil raised for her for spending a a few days in jail and a few fines
and she just got the best marketing ever, it's now the most famous salon in the city of Dallas and supposedly it's booked solid for the next couple months or something
is she any good at doing hair tho?
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#26658558 - 05/08/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tantrika, I saw that one, and it's interesting. For better or for worse, there is already an inhaled prophylactic called PUL042 being used and it will probably prove to be effective. Which means that even if those terpenes are effective, for the moment they are a lap behind in the race to FDA approval. Actually more than a lap because PUL042 is already in human trials and this is a study using "artifical 3d tissue models" (I dont even think that counts as phase 0).
As far as anti-inflammatory properties go, I have my doubts that CBD will prove to have any kind of clinically significant efficacy for this disease. I'd like to be wrong because maybe we'd be on a faster track to federal medical weed.
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#26658576 - 05/08/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Niffla said: I gotta admit though, as far as strictly business goes, she just hit big
half a mil raised for her for spending a a few days in jail and a few fines
and she just got the best marketing ever, it's now the most famous salon in the city of Dallas and supposedly it's booked solid for the next couple months or something
Wouldn't be surprised if there's a new one of these every week or so.
For once I'll put my conspiracy hat on, and say there's a rediculous amount of billionaires that want things open ASAP. It only makes sense that they'll be funding these types of stunts and hoaxer doctors left and right.
Any shroomery business owners on here and locked down? We could promote ourselves into a hella payday
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