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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26511731 - 03/01/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It is already a problem and a big thing in many places.

And just because we don't know how this is going to end doesn't mean it isn't worth preparing for as best we can and taking steps to shield the most vulnerable.

Those steps to shield the most vulnerable include the hand washing and protective items, etc. It is not the cure but rather damage control.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26511735 - 03/01/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I'll forgive Asante for being a little over the top because he is Asante




Will you thank me for the early warning ar the point the millionth person dies from this?


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We dont have enough info. China is not giving us a lot of info.





We don't need China. Iran and Italy just got it, lets see how they are doing:


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Iran
Confirmed: 978
Deaths: 54
Recovered: 175
Existing: 749


Italy
Confirmed: 1.694
Deaths: 34
Recovered: 83
Existing: 1.577






Hey now, wait a minute.. Didnt I reference these exact same countries 1 day and 8 hours ago?
Yup:

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Asante said:

Iran
Confirmed: 388
Deaths: 34
Recovered: 73
Existing: 281


Italy got it later,
a first world country:


Italy
Confirmed: 888
Deaths: 21
Recovered: 46
Existing: 821







So 1 day and 8 hours later Iran shot up from 388 to 978 cases (+250%) and Italy shot up from 888 confirmed cases to 1694 (+191%)

At this rate.. What would happen at this rate?

Uranium or plutonium turn 1 neutron into 2 or 3.
The average COVID patient infects 4-7.
Influenza patients infect 1.3 and its still pandemic.

This is going to steamroll right over us and cause millions of dead.

Our only shot is that spring knocks down the infection rates to minimize casualties while a vaccin is mass-produced or even better, that some well established drug seriously improves the odds for patients so we can just synth and roll out the pallets of pills.

If you look at Iran though. Compared to temperate climates its already spring there, and COVID rips right through em.


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it's still not yet a huge problem and nobody knows if it will become one.





Many people are pretty damn sure its going to be a biggie.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante]
    #26511850 - 03/01/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Look man We had SARS deaths in Canada. I think they may have been the only deaths outside Asia if I'm not mistaken. We got over it.

people die of the common cold and the flu every single year. this is evidently worse than the cold, definitely in terms of lethality at least but that's not exactly saying much. and it is worrying that you can transmit the disease before showing symptoms and the patients who were infected from an unknown source are worrying.

I'm just saying it's too early to know how worried we should be.

You saw my post and instantly wanted to argue but I clearly said I am not saying you are wrong. I believe this could be a big problem.

people speaking with such absolute certainty on either side are jumping the gun.

I'm saying it could go either way so there is no need to argue.



we all knew Iran and Italy had problems. you cant take credit for discovering that lol.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: susurrador]
    #26511852 - 03/01/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

susurrador said:
It is already a problem and a big thing in many places.

And just because we don't know how this is going to end doesn't mean it isn't worth preparing for as best we can and taking steps to shield the most vulnerable.

Those steps to shield the most vulnerable include the hand washing and protective items, etc. It is not the cure but rather damage control.



Read my post.

I specifically said we should be prepared for this to be a big thing.

You guys are jumping to conclusions so fast you cant even fully read and comprehend my post before responding. just wait and see before speaking with such certainty, alls I'm saying.

Lol did I say people shouldn't wash their hands?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26512016 - 03/01/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I read your post and I wasn't only speaking to you in my reply.

I also didn't say that you said anything.

Just a conversation is all.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 4
    #26512021 - 03/01/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Wow. Much contagious. Very problem. So big.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: BayerPhi] * 2
    #26512026 - 03/01/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Great article comparing the common flu to the coronavirus: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/how-does-the-coronavirus-compare-with-the-flu/ar-BB10ziK0?ocid=spartandhp

Really like this quote:

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Most cases of coronavirus infection are not severe, but some people do become quite sick. Data from the largest study of patients to date, conducted in China, suggests that of coronavirus patients receiving medical attention, 80 percent had mild infections, about 15 percent had severe illnesses, and 5 percent were critical.




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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26512041 - 03/01/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thinking your username might live up to it's name.  It is logic against chaos but at these extremes. 

Will be interesting how this unfolds.  Watched Maher and made me laugh.  You have to have a sense of humor about life mixed with facts and reality to have a meaningful life in my opinion.

Now ban me.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Barnaby] * 2
    #26512043 - 03/01/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If my username lives up to its meaning, that would be pretty crazy :eek:

Its going to be an interesting, somewhat scary year, that's for sure.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26512055 - 03/01/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: susurrador]
    #26512107 - 03/01/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

susurrador said:
I read your post and I wasn't only speaking to you in my reply.

I also didn't say that you said anything.

Just a conversation is all.



ok

you replied to me and your post seemed to address my statement that its not time to pannic so I'm sure you can understand my confusion.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26512281 - 03/02/20 04:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

BANANA.MAN said:
this is evidently worse than the cold, definitely in terms of lethality at least but that's not exactly saying much. and it is worrying that you can transmit the disease before showing symptoms and the patients who were infected from an unknown source are worrying.

I'm just saying it's too early to know how worried we should be.





You don't have all the facts.

Its more lethal than the flu
There is more serious illness than the flu
There are infectious people without much or any symptoms
its several TIMES more contagious than pandemic flu
It seems to do well also in countries without winter conditions.

ADD THOSE UP.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante]
    #26512296 - 03/02/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

My girlfriend is super freaked out by this and wants me to go buy "supplys" today. I joked about buying a truck load of beer and rolling papers, she was not impressed.

How bad do you guys think this will get?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Sofaking420]
    #26512301 - 03/02/20 04:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Everybody you know will know someone who died of it.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: sui]
    #26512330 - 03/02/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

sui said:
I think it's an excuse to clamp down and for governments to flex power.




20x deadlier than the flu


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante]
    #26512346 - 03/02/20 06:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Asante said:
Everybody you know will know someone who died of it.



I hate not knowing whether to take you seriously or not..


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Amanita86] * 2
    #26512351 - 03/02/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Asante is definitely not joking lol


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #26512356 - 03/02/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Amanita86 said:
Quote:

Asante said:
Everybody you know will know someone who died of it.



I hate not knowing whether to take you seriously or not..





With what I've been saying, you can take it seriously in the sense that you can rest assured that I mean what I say.

Its more lethal than the flu
There is more serious illness than the flu
There are infectious people without much or any symptoms
its several TIMES more contagious than pandemic flu
It seems to do well also in countries without winter conditions.

Look at the information thats out there. It takes an act of God for this not to become an epic drama.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante]
    #26512384 - 03/02/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I think it is chronic. Maybe not for everyone. But for some. We are fucked. What if every few months you get sick again until you die? Shit, I was wrong. Panic.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: PumpJackTeX]
    #26512394 - 03/02/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I hope the world governments didnt agree on some sort of population control and used the china story for cover.

China would be at the top of the list to use virus to control the world populations.


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