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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26599919 - 04/14/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

"We have zero success for patients who were intubated."


What?!?!?!?!




"Suggested approach to prophylaxis and treatment of COVID-19:

Prophylaxis (definition: "action taken to prevent disease, especially by specified means or against a specified disease.):

While there is very limited data (and none specific for COVID-19),  the following “cocktail” may have a role in the prevention/mitigation of COVID-19 disease, especially amongst the most vulnerable citizens in our community; i.e. those over the age of 60 years and those with medical comorbidities. While there is no high level evidence that this cocktail is effective; it is cheap, safe and should be readily available. So what is there to lose?

•Vitamin C  500 mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
•Zinc 75-100 mg/day (acetate,  gluconate or picolinate).  Zinc lozenges are preferred. After 1-2 months, reduce the dose to 30-50 mg/day.
•Melatonin (slow release):  Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 1-2 mg at night
•Vitamin D3  1000-4000 u/day (optimal dose unknown). Likely that those with baseline low 25-OH vitamin D levels and those > living at 40o latitude will benefit the most.  "


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante] * 4
    #26599929 - 04/14/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Asante said:
There are the people who listen to your mainstream media, they fight over toilet paper in April.
There are people tuned in to our Shroomery COVID thread, they had their supplies, home survival manual downloads and key knowledge in January.


:suckmydickbitches:




Oh believe me sir I do not forget how you were way out in front of this thing, Asante.

:youthemandawg:

:iloveyou:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 5
    #26599938 - 04/14/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Today, I had to spend my morning explaining that coronavirus and influenza are not the same type of infection to an attorney who is researching how to sue to reopen the economy.

:picard:

Then, he tells me he doesn't believe any of this is happening and it's "suspicious" that we're being held inside against our will.

:picard:

Nobody has a gun to your head, man.  WTF.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] * 4
    #26599987 - 04/14/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf


Enjoy



I am bumping this since it was at bottom of page. This is something I think you will all want to read


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
    #26600035 - 04/14/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Then, he tells me he doesn't believe any of this is happening and it's "suspicious" that we're being held inside against our will.



Let me guess.. Event 201? Operation Mockingbird? New policy to distract the voters and control the masses?

What kind of man was he?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Niffla]
    #26600046 - 04/14/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Niffla said:I was listening to NPR on the way to work and they had the Illinois Governor on




Niffla, you in IL too or was that a national broadcast?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26600054 - 04/14/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Niffla said:I was listening to NPR on the way to work and they had the Illinois Governor on




Niffla, you in IL too or was that a national broadcast?




I'm in Dallas, Stallion. It was on the national broadcast this morning on the way to work.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #26600064 - 04/14/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

morrowasted said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf


Enjoy



I am bumping this since it was at bottom of page. This is something I think you will all want to read




This all seems to be useful info for some things people could do at home:


11.Zinc (Zn++) inhibits viral RNA dependent RNA polymerase (replicase). Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are potent Zn ionophores that increase intracellular Zn concentrations.

12.Ascorbic acid has numerous proven biological properties (anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant, immune enhancing, antiviral) that are likely to be of benefit in patients with COVID-19 disease. Furthermore, it is important to stress that ascorbic acid has proven synergistic effects when combined with corticosteroids. Therefore, steroids are recommended in patients with COVID-19 and respiratory failure.  The benefit of ascorbic acid (without corticosteroids) in patients with severe respiratory failure appears to be limited. While the optimal dose of ascorbic acid is unknown, we suggest 3 g IV q 6 hourly. It should be noted that in the presence of free iron (released from ferritin) ascorbic acid may potentially have pro-oxidant effects. Therefore, the trends in CRP and ferritin need to be closely monitored; in those patients who ferritin AND CRP are increasing, reducing the dose to 1.5g q 6 hourly should be considered.

13.Very recent data suggests that in addition to being a potent anti-oxidant, melatonin may have direct antiviral effects against COVID-19. In healthy people, melatonin levels plummet after the age of 40 years. This may partly explain the increased risk of death in patients with COVID-19 who are over the age of 40. Melatonin may therefore have a role in both the prevention and treatment of COVID-19.

14.Vitamin D has important immune-enhancing effects. Much of the population, especially the elderly have sub-optimal vitamin D levels, particularly during the winter months. Low vitamin D levels have been shown to increase the risk of developing viral upper respiratory tract infections. Therefore, prophylactic vitamin D should be considered especially in the elderly. 

15.Quercetin is a plant phytochemical. Experimental and early clinical data suggests that this compound has broad antiviral properties (including against coronavirus) and acting at various steps in the viral life cycle. Quercetin is a potent inhibitor of heat shock proteins (HSP 40 and 70) which are required for viral assembly. This readily available and cheap plant-derived compound may play a role in the prophylaxis of COVID-19 in high-risk populations.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: viraldrome]
    #26600065 - 04/14/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

viraldrome said:
Halfwit Virus truthers hold protest in Vancouver


....
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coronavirus-deniers-vancouver-protest-video




Wots that hand signal in the first pick
Coronavirus is a-okay?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] * 2
    #26600076 - 04/14/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Tantrika said:
Quote:

viraldrome said:
Halfwit Virus truthers hold protest in Vancouver





Wots that hand signal in the first pick
Coronavirus is a-okay?




It's also supposedly a white power thing, and now alt-right people do it because they think they're "trolling the media"

Started as a 4chan joke, then real white supremacists adopted it because they're dumb and the joke was lost on them, now it's a combination of dumb all around.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 3
    #26600077 - 04/14/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

He's an auto accident attorney and usually level headed.  Jovial and fun, loves his little son and hockey.  He hasn't outright cited any "conspiracy", just that 60k people a year die from influenza and Dr. Fauci's updated reports show 60k people will die of COVID.  I had to explain that, without social distancing and isolation measures, that death toll would have been dramatically higher.

So then he throws this article at me:
https://www.aier.org/article/why-arent-americans-suing-their-way-out-of-lockdown/?fbclid=IwAR3R9q_xO5SZqtdz2IUC3zGN1UVTBVFglLvk_eUTOGYYDVlvfuy2Pl0jtVI

In there, it cites case law that a man successfully fought against a local quarantine.... IN 1856.

I told him that the case law wouldn't hold up today because we have better medicine and we know more about viruses now.  That the point of the law is to keep people safe.  So I got into it, telling him that we didn't lift sodomy laws in the States until we determined that AIDS isn't just a gay problem.

Then he's all like, "THE FLU KILLED 60K AMERICANS LAST YEAR AND ITS SUSPICIOUS THEYRE KEEPING US INSIDE FOR NOTHING!"

Rather than become a broken record, I'm going to let him have his mental breakdown.  He's not going to listen to facts.  His mind is so fragile that it can't accept there's a pandemic, so in self preservation, denial is the only way for him.

That we should all be so blessed to have the ability to violently ignore reality happening in front of us.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
    #26600091 - 04/14/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

if we let it spread 3 million americans would probably die

perhaps more depending on the triage scenario


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: cannabinated] * 3
    #26600095 - 04/14/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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if we let it spread 3 million americans would probably die

perhaps more depending on the triage scenario




Yea but the flu

And ALSO, abortions.

:rolleyes:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 5
    #26600098 - 04/14/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomerInTheRye said:
His mind is so fragile that it can't accept there's a pandemic, so in self preservation, denial is the only way for him.



This is the single reason I've been holding my tongue as best I can with friends.

This whole thing seems a good exercise in practicing tolerance.

Cause some peeps be going all kinds of crazy.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26600100 - 04/14/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Tantrika said:
Quote:

viraldrome said:
Halfwit Virus truthers hold protest in Vancouver


....
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coronavirus-deniers-vancouver-protest-video




Wots that hand signal in the first pick
Coronavirus is a-okay?



White power

Blurring their own faces is a real bitch move


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26600103 - 04/14/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

My friend, I'm using this time to see who is really of sound mind and who just claims the title.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] * 2
    #26600112 - 04/14/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

Tantrika said:
Quote:

viraldrome said:
Halfwit Virus truthers hold protest in Vancouver






Wots that hand signal in the first pick
Coronavirus is a-okay?



White power

Blurring their own faces is a real bitch move






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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
    #26600117 - 04/14/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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ShroomerInTheRye said:
My friend, I'm using this time to see who is really of sound mind and who just claims the title.



LOL. Good call.

I've been tending to ascribe those who now wish to exterminate China and think Bill Gates is, like, the orchestrator of our demise as just going through a little stress induced psychosis/neurosis, however I think you might be right; perhaps these people have been bubbling crazy under the surface all along and this is just an opportunity to let it out.

Actually, looking at it through that lens I think you're really onto something...


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26600126 - 04/14/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

White power dude still hid his face


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26600129 - 04/14/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

morrowasted said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf


Enjoy



I am bumping this since it was at bottom of page. This is something I think you will all want to read





Good old fashioned valuable post :thumbup:.


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