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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] 3
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sweet girl. that's hard man. i need to get off the internet for a bit, later everybody
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: MadMuncher]
#26586772 - 04/08/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's incredibly sad.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26586774 - 04/08/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yall need to watch this
Ards is not killing patients. rbc destruction is killing patients. The symptoms along with the presence of opacities on cxr make it seem like pneumonia at first but it is actually more like a type of anemia. All o2 supplementation does is provide more oxygen the remaining rbcs but they continue to be destroyed as long as virus is active so organ perfusion fails no matter how well lungs work. All of this makes perfect sense in relation to the lab values and clinical progression people have been seeing for covid patients. Typically at least half of people with ARDS survive if put on a vent. This isnt ARDS, it just looks a lot like it.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Colours] 1
#26586782 - 04/08/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Yeah my gf lives in Montgomery county. That place has been 15 years behind surrounding counties forever. They still arrest people for weed in that county
They are not houston imho. They are cypress and Jersey village they are the dumb hillbillies of the Houston metro area.
Cypress and Jersey Village are both in Harris County, which is decriminalized up to 4 ounces... You sound pretty dumb, too.
Don't you live in Houston??? How do you not know this??
well fuck me, you are right. Harris county is even more massive than i thought. That is actually reassuring. Only time i ever go further north than the med center is to visit my girl in KW.
Thing is, i actually DO live in houston, unlike 90% of people who say they do. So yeah i dont ever have a good reason to go to cypress other than shroom hunting once a year but that shit is like an hour drive me. Crazy it is in the same county
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26586801 - 04/08/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: well fuck me, you are right. Harris county is even more massive than i thought. That is actually reassuring. Only time i ever go further north than the med center is to visit my girl in KW.
Thing is, i actually DO live in houston, unlike 90% of people who say they do. So yeah i dont ever have a good reason to go to cypress other than shroom hunting once a year but that shit is like an hour drive me. Crazy it is in the same county
I lived in Houston for a few years and yeah it's so spread out and huge.
I lived off Westheimer and when I'd drive back to Dallas, even with halfway decent traffic (which is awfully hard to come by in Houston) it still felt like it would take me an hour to truly get out of the city and past the woodlands. I also lived in Katy for a while too in case anybody is interested in that fun fact about me which I am sure nobody is but there it is anyway.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Niffla] 2
#26586811 - 04/08/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Niffla said: in case anybody is interested in that fun fact about me which I am sure nobody is but there it is anyway.
I am. I admire your efforts in trying to spread positivity here Niff. I appreciate it. I think it's especially important to be light hearted with those we love in times of crisis like these.
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man, props to morrowid for his contribution to this thread.
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Daijo said: man, props to morrowid for his contribution to this thread.
Seconded!
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 3
#26586869 - 04/08/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: US intel agencies knew about the novel coronavirus in November and Trump still sat on his fat ass until the end of January before doing a fucking thing.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273
Dropping the ball is one thing, it seems like most of the world did that and I wouldn't expect any less from someone with zero relevant education or experience.
What gets me is his initial "new democrat hoax" bullshit. His supporters heard that, and a whole lot of them still believe that and are spouting it in social media and in real life, refusing to take the precautions seriously and jeopardizing people's lives. He's walked back on it obviously, but he planted the seed and refuses to admit he was wrong and tell people to cut the shit. #FireFauci was trending on twitter at one point recently.
My buddy who works at Whole Foods had a customer get right up in his face and try to shake his hand, to thank him for still stocking shelves and not falling for "CNN's Pelosi flu". A guy on a local hiking forum that I lurk on had almost the exact same thing happen to him on a secluded hiking trail. The whole partisan bullshit is splitting this country apart so much, even when facing a global pandemic that would've banded us together in the past. I wish it was an easy fix, but people on both sides want to play cheerleader instead of taxpayer that holds their leaders accountable.
I'm done with the news mostly until all this is over, I might as well play the lottery if I'm expecting to check the headlines and actually see out government doing something worthwhile about all of this. My stress and aggravation levels shouldn't be this high when I'm basically temporarily retired for the forseeable future
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Daijo said: man, props to morrowid for his contribution to this thread.
Seconded!
Agreed 
His posts have been far more informative than any news story Ive seen so far
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
#26586890 - 04/08/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Daijo said: man, props to morrowid for his contribution to this thread.
Seconded!
Agreed 
His posts have been far more informative than any news story Ive seen so far
Said. Heard. Seconded.
Until I read what he posted I actually did not see much information at all that showed corona virus being any different in life and death then a really extreme flu. Now it seems more likely it has its own unique set of symptoms only flu like in the very beginning. The flu seems to attack the stomach and body and lungs but the flu more turns to pneumonia if the stomach and body are overpowered and then the lungs go and then pneumonia. From what Morrowasted posted it seems covid-19 almost directly attacks the lungs. It is seeming a lot more clear now why people with very healthy lungs recover well but older people and smokers and those who had previously gotten the flu or had other associated conditions seem to just topple over without a chance when this thing hits them.
Very very good info. We need lots of real info these days because its hard to find.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers] 2
#26586903 - 04/08/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: US intel agencies knew about the novel coronavirus in November and Trump still sat on his fat ass until the end of January before doing a fucking thing.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273
Dropping the ball is one thing, it seems like most of the world did that and I wouldn't expect any less from someone with zero relevant education or experience.
What gets me is his initial "new democrat hoax" bullshit. His supporters heard that, and a whole lot of them still believe that and are spouting it in social media and in real life, refusing to take the precautions seriously and jeopardizing people's lives. He's walked back on it obviously, but he planted the seed and refuses to admit he was wrong and tell people to cut the shit. #FireFauci was trending on twitter at one point recently.
My buddy who works at Whole Foods had a customer get right up in his face and try to shake his hand, to thank him for still stocking shelves and not falling for "CNN's Pelosi flu". A guy on a local hiking forum that I lurk on had almost the exact same thing happen to him on a secluded hiking trail. The whole partisan bullshit is splitting this country apart so much, even when facing a global pandemic that would've banded us together in the past. I wish it was an easy fix, but people on both sides want to play cheerleader instead of taxpayer that holds their leaders accountable.
I'm done with the news mostly until all this is over, I might as well play the lottery if I'm expecting to check the headlines and actually see out government doing something worthwhile about all of this. My stress and aggravation levels shouldn't be this high when I'm basically temporarily retired for the forseeable future 
I stopped believing a fucking thing the news or CDC posted weeks ago. You have to find some very 3rd party sources with access to hospital information to get real statistics and facts and almost immediately the news warps it into its own sensationalist version of what is happening.
I think to help people the right facts need to go to the right people and nothing else. This will help the people who need help and will help the people who can provide help help and stop the misdirection and misallocation of resources to the wrong places.
Like I said correct information is essential. Under hyping or over hyping will bullshit everything and at this point its crucial we try as hard as we can to hit this as accurately as a bullet hits its target. I assume in such a situation where an "invisible killer" is jumping about its hard to define such a thing.
Still though trying to be as accurate as possible is the best thing for everyone right now and the government and news have done their fair share of fucking shit up beyond competent recognition in terms of does and does need to be done.
As I said if there is a fire coming to me from the East and its burned through 50 acres and one minimalist source tells me "no its only burned through 5 acres from the North" and another sensationalist source tells me "no its burned through 500 acres from the South" none of that shit helps me.
Accurate information is the only way we are going to get through this.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: imachavel]
#26586924 - 04/08/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
#26586928 - 04/08/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Trump never said the corona virus was a hoax.
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Effective immediately, all COVID-19-related screenings, testing and treatment are no cost to Ambetter members. As part of this effort, we will cover all telehealth services related to COVID-19, as well as all covered healthcare services that can be administered virtually through June 30, 2020.
Um...do you see how it specifies "telehealth services" and "that can be administered virtually"?
Congrats, your $500 Facetime appointment is free, but your $200,000 hospital bill from physically being there still applies.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: lowbrow] 2
#26586961 - 04/08/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: Trump never said the corona virus was a hoax.
He didn't? Are these quotes not true?
https://headtopics.com/us/trump-says-the-coronavirus-is-the-democrats-new-hoax-11591653
Trump says the coronavirus is the Democrats' 'new hoax'
President Donald Trump spoke on Friday from a campaign rally in North Charleston, South Carolina.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Donald-Trumps-assertion-coronavirus-Democrats-new-hoax-to-undermine-his-administration-grounds-for-legislated-psychiatric-determination-of-his-competency-to-hold-office
Donald Trump referred to the coronavirus as the Democratsâ ânew hoaxâ at his rally last night. How do you interpret that assertion?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: lowbrow]
#26586965 - 04/08/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: Trump never said the corona virus was a hoax.
If you're making an attempt to play your usual boring word gymnastics, I never even said he did.
Here's his quote:
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"And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something thatâs been pretty amazing. Weâre 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that."
And then going on to call the response to COVID "media histeria" and compare it to the flu.
In a court you could argue that he didn't directly call COVID a hoax, but in reality his supporters took this, obviously as COVID = hoax. Much like with XUL's buddies in Charlottesville, he won't confront those people directly because conspiracy and bigotry unites those portions of his supporter base.
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Donald Trumps Corona Virus Calendar (yt vid) albeit I believe trump is a king baby with as much honor and character + dignity as a cum crusted sock and a moderately higher IQ than one...some of the comments made in this video where made when the rates of infection in the country (Us) were low....but the global rates ( CN, SK, Ital) were still ridiculously high considering the assumed time of the origin of the outbreak, other comments...well I canât find a reasonable explanation for saying them in public on a global scale to a global audience while having the influential position of the highest office in the land...making me assume the guys in his cabinet either are incompetent, or heâs just an asshole... or....so in light of that pls watch. Makes me pity the poor sod. That shits in the history books for good now.
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Two Boston hospitals including Boston Medical Center are already at intensive care capacity, Mass General is transitioning an entire floor into a COVID ICU. The mayor predicts we're just hitting the beginning of the surge of cases here... hopefully he's wrong and all of the social distancing pays off.
The good news is that as of now there's enough beds and "possibly" vents. PPE is non-existant in a lot of places but we just opened a facility that supposedly washes 80,000 n95 masks a day.
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Just wanna say in this coronavirus thread that I appreciate Mike dewines urgency and knowledge with amy acton in preventing the over-run with patients in ohio state, I think were gonna make it through this better than some other spots in the world unfortunately
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