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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26482589 - 02/12/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hundreds of millions of people in China are quarantined, factories and ports are closed.

SARS 2 is a lot more efficient than Greta Thunberg at reducing pollution.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26482594 - 02/12/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Not if she rose to power using hateful rhetoric....

Bringing this over here:
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26482601 - 02/12/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)




If you look at ALL flus and colds, you get an exponential curve:





I think the real curve is like this, the non-politically manipulated curve, that its hollow-upward and that the mast much higher data point is closer than all the fake shallowing points.

Million dollar question:  14K+ in n1 day, what is TODAY going to bring?

Did the statistic fumbling get corrected a bit or will we tomorrow at this time look at 20,000 more cases? :uhoh:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
    #26482602 - 02/12/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

This is definitely bad. With China's high population density, the virus is spreading like wild fire :nonono:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: BayerPhi]
    #26482604 - 02/12/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Not if she rose to power using hateful rhetoric....

Bringing this over here:
https://www.epsilontheory.com/body-count/#.XkHHKUrR8zU.twitter





This was posted already but good of you to post it again because exactly today its highly relevant.



Greta wasnt so hateful..




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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26482607 - 02/12/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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This is definitely bad. With China's high population density, the virus is spreading like wild fire :nonono:





Like neutrons in a critical mass of plutonium, to use the earlier metaphor :biggestnuke:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante] * 3
    #26482610 - 02/12/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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If I look at the random acts of kindness I send out in the world and the returns thereon, R0 is <1




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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26482614 - 02/12/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The metaphor is without a doubt fitting. Nature's Biological Warfare meets Nuclear Fusion.



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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26482620 - 02/12/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I have changed the thread title to:

Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"]

to reflect the WHO's renaming of the virus and that fact that I'd no longer like to contain the site's discussion of the outbreak to this one thread.

This one thread is rich with information, with the relatively naive beginnings to more and more hard data coming to light and more and more people getting mobilizede to find the facts.

I would like to make this thread The Main Thread on COVID 19/SARS 2, but if people have semi related topics that do not really belong in this main thread, feel free to strike up another thread.





I maintain now more than ever to emphasize the importance of having 2 weeks to a month's worth of supplies in your house, so that you dont NEED to go out if you have to, whether you are healthy or infected:



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PREPAREDNESS - Asante's 1 month home survivability minimum recommendation.


US Army Field Manual on Survival, one of the best survival guides (direct Shroomery download)

Where There Is No Doctor - official DIY healthcare guidelines for untrained civilans, a mainstay in develping nations (direct Shroomery download)

LDS Guide - after a few pages about Jesus, 200+ pages high quality info on survival in the home and on the run, a prepper's mainstay (direct Shroomery download)



It doesnt have to be the end of the world. It can be as simple as a severe financial crisis. Or a really bad, really lethal Influenza outbreak or another contagious disease. A storm, a flood, a hurricane. Or a lot closer to home, widespread riots in your city making it wise to barricade the door and wait it out.

Here's my 1 month home survivability minimum recommendation. Almost all of these crises will be over in a few days, or a few weeks at most. This is great because your prep here will be enough to help out more people than you anticipated.

Please, consider committing to storing up a months worth of self sufficiency in your home.





-Assume you'll take your stand in your home.
-Get a first aid kit for the home, you really need that anyway.
-Get acetaminophen, get diphenhydramine, get loperamide.
-Get food and drink for a month in your home.
-Get a camping stove and cartridges to cook the food and a months supply of toiletpaper and trashbags to wipe and get rid of the food.
-Get a bottle of non sudsy chlorine bleach and a pair of household gloves. Refresh this bottle every year. Also get a pack of dust mouth masks, such as used in construction.
-If possible, get a months worth of cash in your home in small bills.
-Get a LifeStraw. You need just one for up to a family.
-Get candles, glowsticks, a led flashlight, batteries and a lil radio set to the emergency frequency.
-Get a survival book or at the very least download LDS and BUSHDOCTOR and USARMY (these are direct downloads of .pdf files here on the Shroomery)
-Get a quality survival style knife like a Ka-Bar or Fallkniven F1 and a knife sharpener, a multitool and waterproof matches.
-Get a weapon for home defense. In tight gun law countries this can be something like a chefs knife or screwdriver ducktaped to a yard long steel pipe, a machete or quality shortsword such as a wakizashi, crossbow, ice axe (for mountaineering), pepperspray or baseball bat, in places like the US a handgun is best.
-Get some drugs in your home that you won't binge on but which will help pass the time and serve as potential barter. Don't forget coffee, tea, alcohol and tobacco if you are in the habit and can have em in your home without going overboard.





You don't have to get this all at once, you can pick up an item every now and then and add it to your collection.

As for a months food and drink, you can consider getting a box of emergency rations, army ones (like the NRG-5 the UN and Red Cross uses but your own nation's army typically has the most affordable kind) or luxury ones like the freeze dried gourmet stuff like Mountain House brand. Emergency rations have the advantage of being compact, calorie dense and have shelf lives of 10, 15 or 25 years which means you can forget about them for over a decade. In addition to that many can be consumed as-is so theres no need for elaborate cooking, which may not be possible.

If you got these you are waaay ahead of nine out of ten people. Note that a prep like this is of a size you can still stuff in a car and drive off with.

Interest your VERY closest friends in the whole prep thing and propose to shack up in case of calamity. This combines your efforts, supplies and skills and at once you got a team. Teams of tight knit friends have higher survivability.



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What are you doing to prepare?





I'm beefing up my prepping effort, to have supplies for a month plus without need for shopping runs, also not counting on gas, electric, water mains. Besides the basic bare-bones longterm storage prep which is fine as it is, I'm beefing it up with many intermediate-term storage items that will not just make it survivable but also, comfortable to do so. Lets not forget that even the US Government itself through FEMA is urging Americans to take at least a few weeks of supplies in your house, in any part of America, at any time (fema.gov link) so I'm not saying something alien and nonsensical here. This is something which even your government urges you to do.

I'm letting those with me know that I believe its necessary to take preparations for 2019, even on the risk of looking a fool to others, emphasizing to take it with however many grains of salt one wishes, as one ultimately is responsible for ones own decisions. The ones who laugh it off now, if it comes to be, will have one heck of a wakeup call at the first sign of trouble they take seriously. If they still don't, they should become part of the disaster. It will probably last considerably shorter than a person will starve. If they are so hell bent on experiencing third world problems, let them drink from their toilet, and then from the nearby river, let them be part of the civil unrest on an empty stomach, sure.

The Judeo/Christian/Islamic story of Noah's Ark comes to mind. If you feel called to build an Ark (metaphor for preparing against potential calamity) by all means tell the others - the ones that laugh and scoff are not meant to be on board. Disasters happen for a reason, if this one happens the reason is loud and clear.

In addition to sensibly preparing to meet temporary societal service interruptions and telling a friend, I'm also taking preparations to profit from this disaster. Some of the worlds greatest corporate piggybanks are about to get smashed releasing countless billions into markets a citizen can access. Value of currencies will take a nosedive, commodities will soar, alternate currencies like crypto will potentially soar like never before as Big $$ takes refuge, stock pricvces will plummet sharply before they risew back up to their inherent value, or over in compensation. As some corporate giants are gonna lose their shit, I'm going to attempt catching some of it.
Plenty good money to be made in this scenario if you respond correctly to it.


So:

Prepare for calamity
Prepare for opportunity
Prepare your friends

Thats my plan.

If its yet another disaster drill, no harm done.

The sensible purchasing of life supplies will result in groceries $avings$ so it nets me money as I'll be using retail what I buy in bulk, anyway.

Preparing for opportunity, even if a drill, will improvew my financial situation and alertness.

Preparing my friends will help them gain an edge over the general population as they'll be sinking thoughts and actions into investing into the ounces of prevention that outperform pounds of cure, and it will futher separate the wheat from the chaff, those who take me seriously will weigh my words, or anyones words, more carefully as the forecast did not materialize, and those who think its all a big joke, will take me even less seriously, which, too, is advantageous.




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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26482659 - 02/12/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm lucky here in the South. If shit hit the fan, we could go to my grandmother's house. It's lots of property off a dirt road and everyone within 3 miles is related, close family. She still has well water, a HUGE propane tank (looks like a small submarine), and if all else fails... a wood burning stove. She also grows most of her own food and has probably a year of food she's canned out of her garden. For most of those old timers, if the world fell apart they wouldn't really notice except for their TV no longer working and having to get water out of the well with a bucket rather than with a pump.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: automan]
    #26482946 - 02/12/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Teen pranksters pretend to spill coronavirus on NYC subway

It's ’s a sick prank that sent some commuters off the rails.

Two teens dressed in full-body hazmat suits pretended to spill a vat of COVID-19 on a packed Big Apple subway — leaving straphangers screaming as they fled in terror.

The pair, identified by Insider as Queens pranksters David Flores, 17, and Morris Cordewell, 19, initially sat calmly in their protective get-ups while holding a clear container with red liquid.

“I hope that’s Kool-Aid,” one passenger on the L train in Brooklyn correctly guessed — while another asked, “Is that coronavirus?”

The teens both gave thumbs-up signals while telling straphangers they were “good” — soon eliciting screams as they removed the lid of the box plastered with “WARNING” stickers.

They then pretended to fall to the floor, spilling the liquid that quickly spread down the subway carriage.

“Oh s–t!” someone shouted, while others could be heard screaming as most commuters ran away from the spill, some jumping on seats to avoid the spreading liquid in the Jan. 31 hoax.

“It’s a prank! It’s a prank!” the teens quickly reassured the screaming straphangers

https://nypost.com/2020/02/12/teen-pranksters-pretend-to-spill-coronavirus-on-nyc-subway/?fbclid=IwAR28FL1IGMcI-AAiDp1xxobbwY_XI2x4ltUiNXGfyxL0GbHTks1_dW1KIH8

Video in article is hilarious!



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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26483113 - 02/13/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Crazy freaking numbers in the last 24 hours.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: unam sanctum]
    #26483249 - 02/13/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No, just more realistic numbers.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: tomnl] * 1
    #26483279 - 02/13/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Am I the only one super fucking nervous about today's roundup?

Was this a statistic correction of the doctored graph or has the exponential phase set in and we blast up to 80,000 or even 90,000?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26483282 - 02/13/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

exponential for sure

its gotten away from us, bound to happen


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: cannabinated] * 2
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: cannabinated]
    #26483301 - 02/13/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So... COVID is going to become a word for something you get like AIDS or NORO :sad:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante]
    #26483303 - 02/13/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

COVID--my new band name!


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26483306 - 02/13/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The taxonomic name SARS 2 sounds more worrying.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante]
    #26483315 - 02/13/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It does!


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