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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: morrowasted]
#26576834 - 04/04/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/65o1xnf53nxksme/Why%20Coronavirus%20COVID19%20is%20more%20fatal%20in%20some%20people%20more%20than%20others%20%E2%80%93%20and%20who%20are%20those%20most%20at%20risk%3F.pdf?dl=0
Article about why hyperglycemia precipitates fatal outcomes in COVID19 patients. looks like it was written by a layman or at very least is not in a peer reviewed journal in any way but it seems legit.
a little bird told me that the connection between uncontrolled diabetes and fatal COVID19 outcomes is real
also hearing whispers that the weight loss triggered by the anorexia related to the infection causes massive deposition of linoleic acid into the bloodstream (for those who consume a lot of it) which precipitates more severe acute respiratory distress syndrome so if you get sick try to eat as much as you can even though you dont want to. i looked into it and there may be something to it
An increase in serum C18 unsaturated free fatty acids as a predictor of the development of acute respiratory distress syndrome.
"We have 23 proven covid patients, 13 are known diabetic, the other 9 are prediabetic. Only one of the COVID patients we are taking care of is not diabetic or prediabtic."
for those in ICU, 10/15 had diabetes and 4/5 had prediabetes
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: morrowasted]
#26576841 - 04/04/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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also hearing whispers that the weight loss triggered by the anorexia related to the infection causes massive deposition of linoleic acid into the bloodstream (for those who consume a lot of it) which precipitates more severe acute respiratory distress syndrome so if you get sick try to eat as much as you can even though you dont want to. i looked into it and there may be something to it
you starve a bacteria and feed a virus, common knowledge
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ive always told people to eat less omega 6's I havnt touched vegetable oil in years, I rarely eat store bought eggs, but my chickens eat grains as well as old veggies so theres probably not the best ratio in my backyard eggs either, and I still eat store bought chicken and pork which is high in omega 6, shit im probably full of the stuff even though I dont touch vegetable oils, I started cooking with duck fat which is quite nice
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#26576845 - 04/04/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I knew Gematria had the cure/treatment/medicine for the Coronavirus hidden inside the code, I just didn't know what the correct phrase was. But I now I do:

There it is!! Fuckin' legit.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: 1234go]
#26577036 - 04/04/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/04/02/science.abb7269.full
A highly conserved cryptic epitope in the receptor-binding domains of SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV
too complex for me but seems they are making headway
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: morrowasted] 2
#26577078 - 04/04/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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300,000 US cases
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: morrowasted]
#26577094 - 04/04/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Interesting.
It's beyond my expertise, to be certain, but it seems like this CR3022 could bind to SARS and SARS-CoV-2 as well, though not as effectively. The cool part is that it identifies a target that might be conserved across a number of coronaviruses.
Possibly might be combined with other therapies for a two-pronged attack?
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SARS-CoV-2 uses the same host receptor, angiotensin I converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) as SARS-CoV (3, 9–11). Interestingly, the epitope of CR3022 does not overlap with the ACE2-binding site (Fig. 3A). Structural alignment of the CR3022-SARS-CoV-2 RBD complex with the ACE2-SARS-CoV-2 RBD complex (11) further indicates that binding of CR3022 would not clash with ACE2 (12). This analysis implies that the neutralization mechanism of CR3022 for SARS-CoV does not depend on direct blocking of receptor binding, which is consistent with the observation that CR3022 does not compete with ACE2 for binding to the RBD (6). Unlike CR3022, most known SARS RBD-targeted antibodies compete with ACE2 for binding to RBD (4, 13–16). The epitopes of these antibodies are very different from that of CR3022 (Fig. 3B).
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: psi] 2
#26577189 - 04/04/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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psi said: I would say that he speaks as if chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are alternate names for the same drug, and the "hydroxy" part is just optional to say. And he goes on to say "But the nice part is it’s been around for a long time, so we know that if it … If things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody."
Good on you for getting the real story. Problem with these bullshitters is it takes no time for them to spout nonsense, but it does take time to counter their lies with actual facts.
Of course anyone who has listened to Trump for 2 seconds knows that nothing eloquent ever comes out of his mouth. He often is unable to complete a coherent sentence and forgets what he is talking about mid sentence.
Also what is with all the talk of lists to keep certain people off ventilators? So hypocritical, talk of love and saving all the poor old people, and then turn around and chant for the death of people you disagree with. Humanity is so repulsive.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: Dark_Star]
#26577199 - 04/04/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: Sometimes it seems like Americans are bitching about the lack of accountability. As I think about it, every complaint is a sign that we have a healthy society.
Mass shootings, rampant drug addiction, suicide epidemic.....none of these are signs of a healthy society, and all of these things plague our society. .
No Racism!
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good on you for getting the real story. Problem with these bullshitters is it takes no time for them to spout nonsense, but it does take time to counter their lies with actual facts.
Of course anyone who has listened to Trump for 2 seconds knows that nothing eloquent ever comes out of his mouth. He often is unable to complete a coherent sentence and forgets what he is talking about mid sentence.
Also what is with all the talk of lists to keep certain people off ventilators? So hypocritical, talk of love and saving all the poor old people, and then turn around and chant for the death of people you disagree with. Humanity is so repulsive.
First, I disagree that trump is a bad speaker. It's objectively not how it is. Yes president. I've seen him talk for hours. Your lying to yourself if you think he's a bad speaker.
Who should get ventilators first? When you use one on an illegal, are you killing a citizen? Does saving grandma kill someone that had a life ahead?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26577225 - 04/04/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/04/04/ohio-church-service-covid-19-pandemic-tuchman-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn
Do you want your religion to become totally fucking irrelevant? Because this is how your religion becomes totally irrelevant
"I'll be fiiiiiiiiiinee, I'm covered in jesus' blood"
"The blood of jesus cures every disease, psalms 91, READ IT"

Those people are gonna find out that jesus REALLY doesn't have them covered. Did that lady think the blood of christ works like a hazmat suit? I say let Darwinism do it's job, we'll have more intelligent people in the world if they keep going to church... I seriously fear others will die because of idiots like that sucking up resources when they get sick after being completely irresponsible
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: TheStallionMang]
#26577307 - 04/04/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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62 people in a town of 4600 died of covid as of two weeks ago. That means the CFR is at a bare minimum 1.3 and only if you assume nobody else died and the entire town got infected.
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Italian state TV said the father was one of 62 deaths so far in the outbreak that have occurred in Castiglione d’Adda, one of 10 Lombard towns which were the first to be put on lockdown in northern Italy.
The man’s son, 38, is recovering after weeks of being in critical condition, but his condition has notably improved. The patient is also an expectant father, with a child due to be born with days.
Castiglione d’Adda’s has about 4,600 inhabitants. Italian news reports said the father of Italy’s first confirmed patient with COVID-19 died on Friday. In all, Italy has more than 53,500 cases of the new coronavirus.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: koods]
#26577326 - 04/04/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im paying attention to Germany's CFR since my health fits their demographic way more than Italy's or the State's
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: 1234go]
#26577329 - 04/04/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I knew Gematria had the cure/treatment/medicine for the Coronavirus hidden inside the code, I just didn't know what the correct phrase was. But I now I do:

There it is!! Fuckin' legit.

Finally found the Golden Goose. Thanks Tom Hanks (First Official Celeb #1 for Coronavirus).
Koods, perhaps some communities are more at risk than others? The true CFR seems so variable....
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: HamHead] 2
#26577334 - 04/04/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26577336 - 04/04/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Of course some communities are more at risk than others
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: bodhisatta]
#26577348 - 04/04/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know, pretty obvious right?
Im curious to know if certain races are more at risk, like African Americans, Chinese, Japanese, Italians, etc.....or is it just age and immune disorders?
Is COVID-19 selective of specific human genetics?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26577363 - 04/04/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Im paying attention to Germany's CFR since my health fits their demographic way more than Italy's or the State's
1.4% same as that town (assuming nearly everyone there got infected, which appears to be the case)
Germany’s CFR will likely settle around 1.8 just like South Korea.
The real CFR when all is said and done when you compare deaths to the number of people who ended up getting infected will be 1.3 minimum.
The number of asymotomatics is trivial. Probably 10-20%
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] 4
#26577378 - 04/04/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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He still firmly believes that Jesus will protect him. I told him Jesus gave him a brain and free will so he can think for himself.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: koods]
#26577388 - 04/04/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: 62 people in a town of 4600 died of covid as of two weeks ago. That means the CFR is at a bare minimum 1.3 and only if you assume nobody else died and the entire town got infected.
This cfr figure varies dramatically from place to place. Demographics, medical equipment, proximity of emergency services, competence of medical staff, etc.
88 people in a local nursing home tested positive.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: Asante]
#26577390 - 04/04/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just now I was roleplaying online with a longterm friend (who wouldnt lie) and we had to cut the RP short because he got a call that a friend of his was taken to the hospital in serious condition and hours later, put on a ventilator.
In the same game, on the same day I have another RP buddy who since january carpetbombed any attempts on my side to talk about COVID with Trumpisms that is was a flu, overblown, blah blah, today I spoke him, he had a bad cough and wanted a crash course on COVID from me. He jeered it away in january but was no longer laughing now. He's end 20s with no comorbidities, he'll likely be OK. He works at a Walmart though, still despite his symptoms.
FUCK.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus [Re: morrowasted]
#26577393 - 04/04/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Trump by quote: "when the brunt of it comes... and you can see it sure as you can see it."
"No countries were meant for this... few were... few were..."
Which ones???
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