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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: koods]
#26571967 - 04/01/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Bats are obviously worse than honey, we’re not in the middle of a pandemic started by bee vomit..
Look up why you don’t feed honey to babies. Just google “honey babies”
What a bunch of milk drinkers
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: koods] 2
#26571969 - 04/01/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I’ve been following this guy since he was hospitalized. He reports “I was also given Kevzara, hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin, and Remdesivir.“ he still spent 17 days in the hospital.
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2020/04/01/how-grateful-david-lat-eyeing-hospital-discharge-is-contributing-to-covid-19-research/?slreturn=20200301222722
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Thirteen days ago, David Lat lay on a stark white hospital bed in Manhattan, getting oxygen 24 hours a day because his breathing had grown so labored. And he dared not look ahead too much, he said, as he faced up to his battle with a severe COVID-19 infection.
“I don’t know that I’m getting any worse,” he said by cellphone on March 18, speaking about his illness. “And at this point,” he said, “I’ll take it.”
Lat, the founder of the legal blog Above the Law, did not know that just two days later he would be rendered unconscious by medical staff, suddenly intubated, and hooked up to a life-preserving ventilator for the next week, as he fought to survive, and as doctors administered to him novel drug therapies that they hoped would work.
And he didn’t know that, during his recovery, he’d be offering vials of blood in hopes of helping doctors and scientists find a proven treatment for the coronavirus scourge.
On Saturday, March 29, Lat was transferred out of intensive care, not long after being taken off of the ventilator. And on Tuesday, in his first media interview since he’d returned to stable condition, he talked gratefully about being ready to finally go home—most likely, he said, on Wednesday evening. He also tried to reflect—for perhaps the first time, he said—on what he had just gone through in his battle with a coronavirus-caused infection that had ravaged his life.
“I don’t think I’ve fully wrapped my head—and heart—around the enormity of what I’ve just been through,” he said during an extensive interview conducted via direct messaging on Twitter.
“It’s wild to think about how close I came to dying, to leaving my husband Zach to raise our two-year-old son as a single dad,” he said. “I guess my main emotion is gratitude. I’m so thankful for all the people, many of whom I’ve never met, who were praying for, thinking of, and otherwise pulling for me throughout this ordeal. … And I’m so grateful to be alive.” ...
Early on Monday, as he slept, he said, a team of nurses turned off the oxygen he’d been continuing to get since coming off of the ventilator.
He was glad that they did it without telling him, he said, “because I think the oxygen had become a psychological crutch.”
And as of Tuesday late afternoon and evening, as he DM’ed with a reporter, he was able to breathe on his own “fine … as long as I don’t exert myself.”
“My heart rate still tends to spike over 100 even for something as simple as walking 15 feet to the bathroom,” he added. “But that’s to be expected given what I’ve been through over the past three weeks.”
He was dealing with some pain, he said, as he sent direct messages back and forth, interspersed with an occasional tweet to his 86,000 followers. (On Monday and Tuesday alone, his voluminous tweets ranged from information about his COVID-19 battle to patient advice to a retweeted announcement of the president’s latest nominee to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.) Moreover, he said, his voice has been “very hoarse from the vocal-cord damage from being intubated for six days.”
“I try to speak as little as possible,” he said. In addition, he noted, he still had a “low-level cough” that is “probably not a true coronavirus cough but a so-called ‘follow-on’ infection.” Plus he has “all sorts of things—heart rate monitors, IV drips—[still] stuck into me.”
“I haven’t shaved or showered since being admitted,” Lat also said. He then explained that “back when I had a private bathroom, I was in the ICU and too weak to shower, and now the shared bath in the hallway is one the nurse suggested I avoid using, especially since I’m so close to discharge.”
He sat up at a 45-degree angle in his hospital bed, messaging and tweeting throughout much of Tuesday, he said. His face stayed under a cloth-type mask and a wide plastic eye shield. (“Look ma, no nasal cannula! Or non-rebreather mask,” he tweeted below a picture of his head Tuesday.) His tools were his iPhone 8 and a MacBook Air.
Asked about the source of his energy so soon after being in intensive care, Lat said in a DM that “reading and tweeting about the news is something good to do from a hospital bed.” He also noted “that I haven’t been doing real work, in terms of either legal recruiting or heavy-duty writing, since getting admitted to the hospital on Monday the 16th.”
During the week that he was intubated and having a ventilator do his breathing for him, he said, he was “pretty much totally out of it.” Doctors and nurses heavily sedated him for the week, he said, and at the same time administered to him one drug therapy after another. In fact, he said Tuesday—while noting that he’s now read various recent news articles about him—he was given more medications than had been previously known.
“In the end,” he said, “I ended up receiving an IL-6 inhibitor called Kevzara, a combo of the antimalarial drug called hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic called azithromycin, an IL-6 inhibitor called Tocilizumab, an IL-6 inhibitor called Clazakizumab, and an antiviral called Remdesivir.”
But asked whether the NYU Langone physicians have told him that the drug therapies employed had helped him turn the corner and survive, Lat said that they hadn’t said that—because they themselves don’t know.
“In terms of what did the trick, the doctors can’t say,” said Lat, who is also a former federal prosecutor and a Yale Law School graduate. “From a clinical perspective,” he said, “I’m glad they tried so many different drugs—but from a research perspective, it does mean it’s hard to say what worked.”
“It’s like that famous JFK saying about victory having many fathers, while failure is an orphan,” he said.
For now, said Lat, he will simply look forward to soon reuniting with his young son, his husband of four and a half years, Zachary Baron Shemtob, and his parents.
Though in the meantime, over the past couple of days, doctors have taken vial after vial of his blood, he said, and thanked him repeatedly for it. NYU Langone is running a study on the plasma of coronavirus patients in an effort to find an effective treatment for a deadly viral scourge that has no proven, effective therapy. And Lat has volunteered to be in it.
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NotSheekle said “if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: koods]
#26572117 - 04/01/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Crazy_Horse said: Teach me how to make alcohol.
Brewing it is easy. Just sugar, water, yeast and a micro source of nitrogen and phosphorus and a tiny amount of vitamin b. (You could use some liquid garden fertilizer for this)
It’s the distillation I can’t help you with cause you’ll need a water cooled distillation column.
You're going for pure ethanol though right? 'shine. Mead is probably the easiest without distillation. Just need sugar, yeast, food for the yeast, and a clarifier if desired. Other than a fermenting vessel
It needs to be distilled I’m making it for disinfectant purposes
Isn't it possible to convert acetone to isopropanol?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#26572131 - 04/01/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Reduction of aldehydes and ketones usually requires some pretty harsh reagents
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: ballsalsa]
#26572136 - 04/01/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think acetone would work as aa antiviral cleaner for surfaces other than skin it, degreases and denatures proteins. I have a couple of pints and was wondering this the other day.
Edited by falcon (04/01/20 10:02 PM)
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26572144 - 04/01/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: Damn 1000+ deaths in one day USA?
Do that many people die from the common flu in one day as well?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26572154 - 04/01/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not even close
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: koods] 2
#26572163 - 04/01/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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do the naysayers believe it's serious yet?
haven't seen bodhi post in a while
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: koods] 2
#26572165 - 04/01/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You could use the meth red phosphorus and iodine method. Replace the pseudoephedrine with acetone and you get isopropanol.
Nvm you go all the way to propane.
Sorry
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NotSheekle said “if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
Edited by koods (04/01/20 09:49 PM)
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: PatrickKn] 2
#26572177 - 04/01/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: Bat guano is the honey of the cave.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26572184 - 04/01/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don’t shit talk bodhi, he has been very reasonable
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: larry.fisherman] 1
#26572185 - 04/01/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Chris Cuomo describes covid-19. Hallucinations and shivering so bad he broke a tooth.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1245552974866386944?s=21
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: koods] 1
#26572190 - 04/01/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: ballsalsa]
#26572196 - 04/01/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn, well thats not practical. What about plant oils? Any anti-viral plant extracts we can use?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: koods]
#26572197 - 04/01/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fuck shivvering, fuck fuck fuck
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: falcon] 2
#26572218 - 04/01/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Honestly whenever I shiver I get a terrible sense of doom
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: koods]
#26572232 - 04/01/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah and it's not a thought, it's physical.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: falcon]
#26572259 - 04/01/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Had some shivvering with muscle cramps this winter, from doing too much and not enough sleep and little hypothermia from sitting around aterwards and reading in the cold till I was cold . Had to warm up first to stop the shivvering before I could stretch out the cramps and eat a couple of bananas. Don't want to repeat. The leg cramps were almost all the muscles not just the back of legs, every part of the legs that were shaking were aching, though the backs were the worst.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - A Global Pandemic [Re: falcon] 1
#26572414 - 04/02/20 01:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shivering is no fun. Just like when u hold your breath for too long, and your body starts convulsing. That shit freaks ms out. I dont know how those professional underwater free-divers do it!
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: HamHead] 1
#26572457 - 04/02/20 02:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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3 new Predictive Programming sources have been identified:
Pandemic - a Netflix show about a Coronavirus outbreak My Secret Terrius - a Netflix show from South Korea about a genetically modified Coronavirus weapon Asterix and the Chariot Race - a French boom with a main character named "Coronavirus".
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