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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26566870 - 03/30/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#26566933 - 03/30/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks like obesity is turning out to be a major factor in cases becoming more severe
"Excess weight also appears to be a significant risk factor; over 70% of patients were overweight, obese or clinically obese on the body mass index scale." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/28/coronavirus-intensive-care-uk-patients-50-per-cent-survival-rate
"80% of Covid-19 Patients in Netherlands ICU's are overweight" https://nos.nl/artikel/2328804-veel-patienten-op-ic-met-overgewicht-maar-ga-nu-niet-te-streng-dieten.html
(pulled from a supposed translation) Many patients on IC are overweight, 'but don't go on too strict diets now'
Doctors advise people who are obese not to start strict diets immediately because they are afraid that they will end up in the ICU during a corona infection. The reason is the reports that 80 percent of the corona patients who are in the ICU are overweight. Diederik Gommers, chairman of the Association for Intensive Care, came on Friday in the television program Jinek with these figures. According to Gommers, being overweight can be the result of, for example, diabetes or high blood pressure. Overweight people also have a heavier chest which makes it more difficult for them to breathe. Liesbeth van Rossum, internist at the Erasmus MC in Rotterdam, warns people not to start a so-called crash diet after these reports. "We see really shocking numbers of people who are seriously overweight who end up in IC. It is also a real risk factor because the immune system is affected, but a crash diet does not solve your obesity problem," says Van Rossum in the NOS Radio 1 Journal . The strict diet can also cause a lack of nutrients, so you get a diet that affects your immune system even further.
"The problem of being overweight is not solved in a day. Liesbeth van Rossum, internist Erasmus MC
"Of course it is good to solve obesity, but that did not happen in a day. Then you have to change your diet and lifestyle for a long time, and that is not easy in such a quarantine period. The cause of the obesity must also be It could be stress or sleep deprivation, for example. " According to Van Rossum, people who are obese should especially avoid becoming infected with the virus. Incidentally, Van Rossum does not receive many troubled messages from overweight people, but that is probably due to the fact that care for obese patients is seen as chronic care and is currently on the back burner. The consultation hours are, for example, only by telephone. Van Rossum considers it important that people who are now at home and experience stress, because they are not sure whether they will keep their job, for example, continue to live a healthy life. "People are more likely to reach for snacks or alcohol, but above all, comfort yourself with a healthy lifestyle and prevent your pounds from further increasing. This is incidentally separate from the current obesity patients, because we should have tackled that problem before to address the current complications. to catch."”
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: feevers]
#26567101 - 03/30/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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it makes the respirator work harder and damage urr lungs
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26567190 - 03/30/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Meanwhile in Holland 
Tuesday 382 (March 10, 2020) Wednesday: 503 (+121) Thursday: 614 (+111) Friday: 804 (+190) Saturday: 959 (+155) Sunday: 1135 (+176) Monday: 1413 (+287)(March 16) Tuesday: 1708 (+295) Wednesday: 2051 (+343) Thursday 2460 (+409) Friday 2994 (+534) Saturday 3631 (+637) Sunday 4202 (+571) Monday 4749 (+547)(March 23) Tuesday 5560 (+811) Wednesday 6412 (+852) Thursday 7431 (+1019) Friday 8603 (+1172) Saturday 9762 (+1159) Sunday 10,866 (+1104) Monday 11,817 (+1059)(March 30)
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 1
#26567201 - 03/30/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Five consecutive days with almost the same numbers of new cases per day. Wouldn't it be great if Holland has already seen its nadir. Good luck and good fortune.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pslyke]
#26567208 - 03/30/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you, it does seem that our quasi lockdown is showing results.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: cannabinated] 2
#26567214 - 03/30/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Heard NL only had like 900 ICU beds for the entire country. Hope you're getting some help from the neighbors in that regard.
I have dug up one n95 mask, and a few pairs of gloves, that I had stashed away for working with paints and spraypaints. I've heard you can sterilize it by hanging it in the oven, but I'm not trying to burn the house down .
I'm gonna keep it on standby for grocery trips I guess.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pirate-blues] 4
#26567227 - 03/30/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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PHILIPS (the dutch electronics company) pulled 1000 of their ventilators and patient monitors from their foreign facilities into Holland to help cope with the crisis.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 2
#26567279 - 03/30/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Italy and France combined have less cases now than the US.
Holy shit, US, its gonna be rough.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 8
#26567286 - 03/30/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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America. Where we have to outperform the world no matter the subject lol
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: spirit_shadow] 8
#26567303 - 03/30/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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USA USA USA USA
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26567304 - 03/30/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26567309 - 03/30/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Asante said: Italy and France combined have less cases now than the US.
Holy shit, US, its gonna be rough.
well the USA also has more than twice the populations of france and italy combined.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: BANANA.MAN] 7
#26567336 - 03/30/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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And US is the obesity capitol of the universe
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees] 2
#26567340 - 03/30/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just saying its not that surprising that a more populous country would have more cases.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: BANANA.MAN] 2
#26567350 - 03/30/20 01:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm just sayin that it's also the obesity captiol of the universe and it could start looking worse than Italy and France combined
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: BANANA.MAN] 2
#26567352 - 03/30/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26567357 - 03/30/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
trees said: I'm just sayin that it's also the obesity captiol of the universe and it could start looking worse than Italy and France combined
us isn't even top 10 for obesity
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26567361 - 03/30/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
trees said: I'm just sayin that it's also the obesity captiol of the universe and it could start looking worse than Italy and France combined
And if USA has a higher ratio of deaths to recoveries than Italy or France then It will be safe to say that USA is doing worse.
but simply having (or identifying) more cases means nothing.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees] 3
#26567362 - 03/30/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
trees said: And US is the obesity capitol of the universe
Not true, the US is the obesity capital of the Galaxy at best.
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