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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: psi] 1
#26559391 - 03/26/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That’s what she said!
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26559393 - 03/26/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: It’s been in the US for months. Nothing about what I said is invalidated by that.
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if you were sick over a month ago and you don’t live in the Nee York area and hadn’t travelled the chances that you had covid is nearly zero
chances are obviously lower but nearly zero is hyperbolic without better evidence. It really could turn out we have been miscalculating variables like r0 znd series interval. I'm just keeping an open mind, there is no good reason to rule out the possibility just yet
Let’s say there were 10,000 people walking around the US with this six weeks ago. The chance that you were one of those 10,000 is .003%
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: BattyKoda] 2
#26559396 - 03/26/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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BattyKoda said: Do you guys buy all this USA Nonessential and essential employees bulshit?
It's only gonna get worse until we shut the the country down for a week or two. Maybe more now that we have waited so long. It's clear they are all ready dividing us with race, religion, etc, and now with this essential and non essential employee shit. They give them little pet names so that they have the motavation and blindness to keep those essential employees going to work thinking they will save the world. In reality me and the non essentials will be the ones keeping the essentials alive in the end and trumpy bear that lead them into oblivion will turn a blind eye. A sacrifice for the nation they will say.
Maybe I'm a nut?
I think you are being overly sensitive. Your job is probably important. It is more important for as many people to stay home as possible. The mail needs to go out, the streets need policemen, the gas stations need workers, the pharmacies need to dispense drugs, and the hospitals needs personnel of all kinds.
I dont know how gas station workers feel but I personally have extremely mixed feelings about being "essential" in the present context. Maybe it is the case of grass is always greener but I genuinely worry about getting sick from this and might not mind being classified as nonessential if it meant not risking picking it up. I smoked for 12 years and my lungs are not in terrific shape. Also my parents are in their 70s.
But for healthcare workers the real nightmare isnt just catching this. The real nightmare is having to intubate your coworkers and being told you can't try to save their lives if their heart stops working because they need the ventilators for patients more likely to survive.
This disease on it's own is worse than flu but manageable at a certain rate of spread. It is just spreading way too fast to be manageable in some places
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26559397 - 03/26/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've only left three times since the 14th.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: mycosis]
#26559401 - 03/26/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You could do shonen knife covers.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26559403 - 03/26/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fair enough
I would still wanna get an antibody test. Hell, I haven't been sick in years and I wanna get an antibody test at the very least since I have at least one known exposure without ppe. At first they were telling nurses with known exposure to quarantine but they're not even doing that anymore. Only quarantine if you get sick and even then hard to get a test for some
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26559407 - 03/26/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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ShroomerInTheRye said: I'm laughing my ass off right now watching a doctor on ABC News stating on live TV that the numbers are not that accurate at all. The case count is only as good as the denominator, and in order to do that, we need to test millions and millions of people, so we need to take the information with a grain of salt because we don't know how many folks have been truly infected.
^^That's almost verbatim what she said.
Here it is again, but from a mathematician https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-math.html
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26559408 - 03/26/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Or Cibo Matto. 
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26559412 - 03/26/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Fair enough
I would still wanna get an antibody test. Hell, I haven't been sick in years and I wanna get an antibody test at the very least since I have at least one known exposure without ppe. At first they were telling nurses with known exposure to quarantine but they're not even doing that anymore. Only quarantine if you get sick and even then hard to get a test for some
I suspect you work in the same hospital as my friend
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26559425 - 03/26/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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BattyKoda said: Do you guys buy all this USA Nonessential and essential employees bulshit?
It's only gonna get worse until we shut the the country down for a week or two. Maybe more now that we have waited so long. It's clear they are all ready dividing us with race, religion, etc, and now with this essential and non essential employee shit. They give them little pet names so that they have the motavation and blindness to keep those essential employees going to work thinking they will save the world. In reality me and the non essentials will be the ones keeping the essentials alive in the end and trumpy bear that lead them into oblivion will turn a blind eye. A sacrifice for the nation they will say.
Maybe I'm a nut?
I think you are being overly sensitive. Your job is probably important. It is more important for as many people to stay home as possible. The mail needs to go out, the streets need policemen, the gas stations need workers, the pharmacies need to dispense drugs, and the hospitals needs personnel of all kinds.
I dont know how gas station workers feel but I personally have extremely mixed feelings about being "essential" in the present context. Maybe it is the case of grass is always greener but I genuinely worry about getting sick from this and might not mind being classified as nonessential if it meant not risking picking it up. I smoked for 12 years and my lungs are not in terrific shape. Also my parents are in their 70s.
But for healthcare workers the real nightmare isnt just catching this. The real nightmare is having to intubate your coworkers and being told you can't try to save their lives if their heart stops working because they need the ventilators for patients more likely to survive.
This disease on it's own is worse than flu but manageable at a certain rate of spread. It is just spreading way too fast to be manageable in some places
No no no. It's not that. I took off and used fmla until they started paying us for shutting down. Ive been home since the 14th.
These folks have complety deemed themselves a new class of citizen. Talking shit about the lazy and lowly inessentials. Completely disregarding this virus because they on the trumpy bear train. Maybe it's just the nuts in my area?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: twighead]
#26559468 - 03/26/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Asante said: Which other country so readily applied broad complete lockdowns and erected emergency hospitals with negative air pressure to keep the virus in?
China went "how can we most rationally and proactively act when SARS returns?" they then set aside budget and made provisions and plans and when SARS-2 did come around, it snapped in effect.
More like which country went into complete informational lockdown while psychotically expelling all foreign media at the first sign of a crisis.
Like ya know, every other fucking crisis or slightly negative thing that happens in that country. Just like they covered up the thousands of kids who died in the last major earthquake from the shoddy under-regulation government school construction and imprisoned anyone who dared to report on their dead children. Just like they imprisoned millions of innocent qi gong practitioners with barely a domestic peep.
Typical asante bias naivety though, the truth is clear.
He's also forgetting to mention that China knew about the virus, had the doctors alter their statements, falsified records, and then suppressed knowledge for at least a month during which the Lunar New Year celebrations occcurred, involving both mass gatherings, and lots of travel (and foreign travel!). That China.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: InfiniteDreams] 2
#26559479 - 03/26/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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China kept it secret for about 4 days.
The Wuhan public health officials became aware of the outbreak the last week of December when the doctors went public and the WHO was notified on Jan 1. The CDC was notified on Jan 3
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: InfiniteDreams] 4
#26559483 - 03/26/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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These folks have complety deemed themselves a new class of citizen. Talking shit about the lazy and lowly inessentials. Completely disregarding this virus because they on the trumpy bear train. Maybe it's just the nuts in my area?
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I've seen memes where people joke about feeling proud of being essential but ive not seen anyone shitting on so called non essential workers at all.
I think it is fine that working class people and nurses are having a moment to be proud because typically their contributions to society are overlooked and taken for granted
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods] 4
#26559501 - 03/26/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: China kept it secret for about 4 days.
The Wuhan public health officials became aware of the outbreak the last week of December when the doctors went public and the WHO was notified on Jan 1. The CDC was notified on Jan 3
This is incorrect.
The earliest case was detected on 17 November.
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Chinese authorities had identified at least 266 people who contracted the virus last year and who came under medical surveillance, and the earliest case was 17 November – weeks before authorities announced the emergence of the new virus.
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On 23 January 2020, the central government of China imposed a lockdown in Wuhan and other cities in Hubei province in an effort to quarantine the centre of an outbreak of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
Almost a full 2 month delay.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26559517 - 03/26/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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These folks have complety deemed themselves a new class of citizen. Talking shit about the lazy and lowly inessentials. Completely disregarding this virus because they on the trumpy bear train. Maybe it's just the nuts in my area?
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I've seen memes where people joke about feeling proud of being essential but ice not seen anyone shitting on so called mom essential workers at all.
I think it is fine that working class people and nurses are having a moment to be proud because typically their contributions to society are overlooked and taken for granted
You gotta be up north. I completely agree with you but the meme I'm seeing are over the top. Thanks for all you do. I was told to ask you how to stop a siezure in a emergency situation?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26559521 - 03/26/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Deborah birx suggesting that the original models overpredicted infection rates
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26559526 - 03/26/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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btw do you work directly with covid-19 patients?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: BattyKoda]
#26559532 - 03/26/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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These folks have complety deemed themselves a new class of citizen. Talking shit about the lazy and lowly inessentials. Completely disregarding this virus because they on the trumpy bear train. Maybe it's just the nuts in my area?
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You gotta be up north. I completely agree with you but the meme I'm seeing are over the top. Thanks for all you do. I was told to ask you how to stop a siezure in a emergency situation?
thanks. Sorry to hear that. People are scared.
I mean, you don't in an everyday context. Ease them to the ground if possible to prevent head injury, turn them to side and maintain clear airway. Dont try do anything with their mouths. If they are seizing on and off continuously you need to have them treated for status epilepticus which they usually give IV diazepam or sometimes phenobarbital for
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LeningradCowboy] 1
#26559533 - 03/26/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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'Merica overtakes China for the top spot
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LeningradCowboy]
#26559552 - 03/26/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LeningradCowboy said: btw do you work directly with covid-19 patients?
I have not treated anyone hospitalized for covid but it is really hard to say whether or not any of my patients had it. I wear n95 at all times and full ppe for anyone presenting with any sx remotely resembling covid. Fever cough rhinorrhea anosmia diarrhea SOB etc
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