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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26552982 - 03/23/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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So if you get sick you should go to the hospital so other sick people can cough huge viral loads for you to breathe in? That might not be good for the recovery rate...
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26552986 - 03/23/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: Canada is reporting 550 additional cases for a total of 2020. A massive roughly ~30% increase over night, obviously due to testing. Which I suppose means it's going to balloon a lot in the coming week or so as they ramp up testing
I still don’t think the growth of testing is keeping up with the growth in infections.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26552994 - 03/23/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont either.
All non-essential businesses will now close in Ontario after tomorrow at 11:59pm
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26552997 - 03/23/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't heed anyone spewing numbers like they mean anything. Only testing critical patients makes the death percentage look way higher.
There are no real numbers to go on, nor is there a control group.
All we have to go on is media reports.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26552998 - 03/23/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Most people who have some respiratory issues never develop ARDS. Most of the people who deveop ARDS do so after a week of upper respiratory symptoms. There is no evidence at all to support Trees theory. He should stick to arborist related matters.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26552999 - 03/23/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: I dont either.
All non-essential businesses will now close in Ontario after tomorrow at 11:59pm
What’s up with your kidneys
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26553003 - 03/23/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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InfiniteDreams said: So if you get sick you should go to the hospital so other sick people can cough huge viral loads for you to breathe in? That might not be good for the recovery rate...
I had heard that healthcare workers were getting more severely infected because of their exposure to large viral loads - but is it possible to get a more severe infection if you've already been infected and are there for treatment? I didn't think so, but I really have no idea how any of this works biologically beyond the basics.
Either way, my area has a virtual pre-screening process, then you're instructed to go to one of a bunch of standalone testing centers, I believe some are drive through as well. I see flashing marquees from hospitals telling people to call their doctor before they try to go to the er for coronavirus symptoms, and overall, I think they're trying to discourage people from going to the ER.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26553004 - 03/23/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Massachusetts is at around 700 cases so far. The governor finally is shutting down non-essential businesses tomorrow
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26553007 - 03/23/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said:
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larry.fisherman said: I dont either.
All non-essential businesses will now close in Ontario after tomorrow at 11:59pm
What’s up with your kidneys
does that include Mcdonalds? they just put up hiring ads on indeed 4 days ago
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26553011 - 03/23/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said: here is no evidence at all to support Trees theory. He should stick to arborist related matters.
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trees said: Specially written about Corona virus aerosols
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If inhaled, fine aerosols often travel deeper into the body than heavy respiratory droplets, and spark severe infection in the lungs, she added.
https://www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-can-spread-as-an-aerosol.html
I'm more willing to take these guys seriously than koods who exhibits Donald Trump like behavior. Koods assumes the dumbest possible interpretation of anything anyone says. Just like Trump. It's comedy really. He denies the existence of viral load and infection site as an infection parameter.
If morrow denies this and the existence of viral load as an important infection parameter AND hes an educated RN inside a hoslital with corona laced air, then thats pretty sad
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: gopher]
#26553012 - 03/23/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Where I am food services are allowed to stay open for delivery and take out, and are considered essentials, so I imagine McDonalds would fit in that category pretty well.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: gopher]
#26553015 - 03/23/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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McDonald’s is closing nationwide tomorrow
Edit: in the UK
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26553017 - 03/23/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's for the best. Let the healing begin
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26553018 - 03/23/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said:
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koods said: here is no evidence at all to support Trees theory. He should stick to arborist related matters.
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trees said: Specially written about Corona virus aerosols
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If inhaled, fine aerosols often travel deeper into the body than heavy respiratory droplets, and spark severe infection in the lungs, she added.
https://www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-can-spread-as-an-aerosol.html
I'm more willing to take these guys seriously than koods who exhibits Donald Trump like behavior. Koods assumes the dumbest possible interpretation of anything anyone says. Just like Trump. It's comedy really.
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koods said: Most people who have some respiratory issues never develop ARDS. Most of the people who deveop ARDS do so after a week of upper respiratory symptoms. There is no evidence at all to support Trees theory. He should stick to arborist related matters.
What’s the pollen count for trees today?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26553020 - 03/23/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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My nurse relative gets a free ration from such ever since the lockdown.
I've never had a meal from such n the past 3 years.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26553022 - 03/23/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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You deny the factor of viral load? Healthy medics are dying. Likely due to excessive viral load. Which would probably come from the hospital air. Patients are coughing relentlessly into the air. Masks will have a degree of failure. Repeated inhalation of viral particles could be dangerous.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26553028 - 03/23/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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He never said viral load isn’t imortant. It’s just that when you take a big load it isn’t getting deep into your lungs it’s mainly in the throat and nose. As it should be.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees] 1
#26553031 - 03/23/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said:
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koods said: here is no evidence at all to support Trees theory. He should stick to arborist related matters.
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trees said: Specially written about Corona virus aerosols
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If inhaled, fine aerosols often travel deeper into the body than heavy respiratory droplets, and spark severe infection in the lungs, she added.
https://www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-can-spread-as-an-aerosol.html
I'm more willing to take these guys seriously than koods who exhibits Donald Trump like behavior. Koods assumes the dumbest possible interpretation of anything anyone says. Just like Trump. It's comedy really. He denies the existence of viral load and infection site as an infection parameter.
If morrow denies this and the existence of viral load as an important infection parameter AND hes an educated RN inside a hoslital with corona laced air, then thats pretty sad
Koods is fear mongering. It's an ego session for sure. Much like watching fox news.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26553033 - 03/23/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you knew anything about air quality you'd know that aerosols can get deep into the lungs. Virus particles are smaller than aerosol particles. Each aerosol particle could contain multiples of viral particles. These particles can inoculate deep lung tissue.
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#26553041 - 03/23/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Was hoping to follow for some useful information, the arguing is making that a bit more difficult
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