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Ahab McBathsalts
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Shroomhunts] 2
#26549312 - 03/21/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomhunts said: The govonor ordered all the non life sustaining businesses here to close and they basically told the government to fuck off. I am intrested to see how they go about enforcing this. The guidelies for "life sustaining" are vauge and nobody is gonna shut doen willingly.
Classic prisoner's delema isn't it?
If everyone closes, the virus dies out quicker and business come back sooner If you close, but your competitor doesn't the virus still spreads fast and you lose more business than your competitor If your competitor closes, but you don't, the virus spreads fast and and you gain more business than your competitor If no one closes the virus wipes out 2-6 million people from the USA and the army is called in to set up blockaids and checkpoints. Democracy fails.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
#26549321 - 03/21/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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My company has already done a ton of mental gymnastics to call ourselves life sustaining(we manufacture home automation and lighting stuff). I guess because pretty much all of our business is done B2B or online, we're getting away with it.
I can't say I'm not relieved that I still have my job for the forseeable future though.
Meanwhile I have friends who work at what seems like actual life sustaining businesses that are having their employment suspended indefinitely.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26549328 - 03/21/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomhunts said: The govonor ordered all the non life sustaining businesses here to close and they basically told the government to fuck off.
Yeah I've heard how a lot of small businesses across the country have kept running in the spite of the orders given. So now some police have been apparently assigned to just roaming the streets specifically looking for businesses that are ignoring the order.
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Also a lot of talk about martial law. Oming here and the military killing civilians, im not saying it aint gonna happen but they really got to brainwash them to get the soldiers to a point they would even consider killing innocent American civilians.
They're not going to just start blowing away people in the streets. I mean barring law & order completely breaking down that was followed by riots and looting. Then yeah. But outside of that they're not just going to roam the streets looking for American citizens to shoot.
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Shroomhunts
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pirate-blues]
#26549332 - 03/21/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I work for a lawn company that is closed in the winter so this is our only chance to get bread. Legal team literally told us fuck the gov we going till the shut us down.
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Niffla



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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pirate-blues]
#26549337 - 03/21/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: My company has already done
I can't say I'm not relieved that I still have my job for the forseeable future though.
Meanwhile I have friends who work at what seems like actual life sustaining businesses that are having their employment suspended indefinitely.
I saw something today where Starbucks will pay all employees for the next whole month even if they're not working. But then what happens after that? What if this is still going on (or even worse) 3 months from now? Are they just unemployed at that point?
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Shroomhunts
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Niffla]
#26549344 - 03/21/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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@niffla They already got the gaurd involved its inevitable they are gonna need more manpower to keep all this shit under control we are most definitely on the brink of full blown martial law. If people cant work, and cant buy food, shit is gonna get crazy really fast. I get angry after not eating breakfast, there is gonna be whole families of hungry people that are gonna do whatever to get theirs.
This has probably been spoken on but, It dont take a genuis to see they are downplaying how long this is gonna last, the virus is one thing but the damage it is gonna do to society could take years to repair.
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Niffla



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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26549352 - 03/21/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomhunts said: @niffla They already got the gaurd involved its inevitable they are gonna need more manpower to keep all this shit under control we are most definitely on the brink of full blown martial law. If people cant work, and cant buy food, shit is gonna get crazy really fast.
That's true. If it does reach a point like that, and it most certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility, then it could get disastrously ugly for sure.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26549353 - 03/21/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Isn’t a business technically “essential” if it’s what provides you the paycheck that gets you food, shelter?
So at what point does locking people down create more issue than being out and spreading the virus? I’d think some people getting sick is the better option but what do I know?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26549354 - 03/21/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: Hearing that vaping is looking more and more sketch, probably good idea to ditch the vapes now too
Where did you hear this? You have link?
I am a pretty chronic vaper since quitting smoking a year ago. I'm sure I don't vape nearly as much as some people, and I don't use super high strength nicotine or anything but I'm still concerned. I'm considering putting my vape away and getting out some nicotine gum or something and maybe even stop smoking weed. I'm going paranoid as fuck...
reading this was rather alarming (posted earlier by feevers)
https://www.propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients
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With our coronavirus patients, once they’re on ventilators, most need about the highest settings that we can do. About 90% oxygen, and 16 of PEEP, positive end-expiratory pressure, which keeps the lung inflated. This is nearly as high as I’ve ever seen. The level we’re at means we are running out of options.
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“It first struck me how different it was when I saw my first coronavirus patient go bad. I was like, Holy shit, this is not the flu. Watching this relatively young guy, gasping for air, pink frothy secretions coming out of his tube and out of his mouth. The ventilator should have been doing the work of breathing but he was still gasping for air, moving his mouth, moving his body, struggling. We had to restrain him. With all the coronavirus patients, we’ve had to restrain them. They really hyperventilate, really struggle to breathe. When you’re in that mindstate of struggling to breathe and delirious with fever, you don’t know when someone is trying to help you, so you’ll try to rip the breathing tube out because you feel it is choking you, but you are drowning."
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26549355 - 03/21/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right that's what has to be balanced.
The economy. Ie people's livelihoods.
Vs lives.
Truthfully we pretty much always picked the economy before.
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On February 10, 2018, Fortune reported that influenza in the United States was killing up to 4,000 Americans a week, likely to far outstrip the rate of deaths in the 2009–2010 season.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#26549358 - 03/21/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It sounds like a god awful way to die, too. This is surreal as fuck. I can't even believe what is happening.
I had a discussion with my neighbour and was surprised even he was agreeing our prime minister should have shut everything down and forced martial law for minimum 2 weeks already...I was surprised to hear him say that. Sounds like it is starting to become more and more obvious to the people who were wholding out thinking it was "no worse than the flu"
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#26549360 - 03/21/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tbh if I was addicted to vaping or smoking I would seriously consider quitting if their was some hypothetical deadly respiratory pandemic just a thought.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Niffla]
#26549362 - 03/21/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
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pirate-blues said: My company has already done
I can't say I'm not relieved that I still have my job for the forseeable future though.
Meanwhile I have friends who work at what seems like actual life sustaining businesses that are having their employment suspended indefinitely.
I saw something today where Starbucks will pay all employees for the next whole month even if they're not working. But then what happens after that? What if this is still going on (or even worse) 3 months from now? Are they just unemployed at that point?
I read somewhere from some publication that we needed to do a 5 week lockdown to nip this in the bud. I definitely feel like we're just kind of dragging it out waiting for the worst to strike, at this point.
Mine will do a 2 week paid leave that doesn't count against your sick days or pto or vacation, luckily I can work from home as well, but we have distribution centers where a lot of folks can't. After your 2 weeks are up then you have to start discussing a leave of absence. I imagine starbucks is similar in that regard.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#26549363 - 03/21/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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yo canada where the fuck do we buy guns
is this the only time ever I wanted to own a gun? probably but jesus fuck do we even have gun shops

I did see one in saskatchewan once
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Niffla



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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26549367 - 03/21/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: This is surreal as fuck. I can't even believe what is happening.
I had a discussion with my neighbour and was surprised even he was agreeing our prime minister should have shut everything down and forced martial law for minimum 2 weeks already...I was surprised to hear him say that.
The scale of this is unimaginable. Virtually every populated area on the globe has been affected. Cities everywhere have been reduced to ghost towns. You could go to Las Vegas right now and there's not a single show you could see. Or a casino that you could walk into. It's mind boggling.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Niffla] 3
#26549375 - 03/21/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Typical, the virus is a communist.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Shroomhunts] 1
#26549385 - 03/21/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomhunts said: The govonor ordered all the non life sustaining businesses here to close and they basically told the government to fuck off. I am intrested to see how they go about enforcing this. The guidelies for "life sustaining" are vauge and nobody is gonna shut doen willingly.
Also a lot of talk about martial law coming here soon and the military killing civilians, im not saying it aint gonna happen but they really got to brainwash them to get the soldiers to a point they would even consider killing innocent American civilians.
"innocent" Putting three packs of TP in your shopping trolley when the sign in the shop clearly states "no more than two of any product" = summary execution...
...of the entire family.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26549396 - 03/21/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: Right that's what has to be balanced.
The economy. Ie people's livelihoods.
Vs lives.
Truthfully we pretty much always picked the economy before.
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On February 10, 2018, Fortune reported that influenza in the United States was killing up to 4,000 Americans a week, likely to far outstrip the rate of deaths in the 2009–2010 season.
Yes but flus are seasonal and vaccines are available.
No one should need this explained at this point but exponential growth indefinitely.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#26549403 - 03/21/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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psi said: I was not sure if the weed stores were still open. For mail order they apparently make you come into the post office now.
Is that only for weed?
I got a roll of parafilm delivered by Amazon this morning.
I think Amazon may have their own delivery people rather than using Canada Post. But with weed I believe it's the age check part that's the kicker. By law they can't just drop it off without making sure it's an adult who receives it.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: psi]
#26549412 - 03/21/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I ordered weed from OCS when they first legalized it, they actually delivered it to a room mate, so I dont think they were checking ID then or they would see it wasnt me, when I order nicotine they wouldnt give it to my stepdad, they had to see my ID
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