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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: PumpJackTeX] 1
#26539516 - 03/16/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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And is the current state of affairs good for China economically?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: psi]
#26539520 - 03/16/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Somone in my family died from it : (
He was in his 30s. They found him dead in his room. Over here in north America.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: watermelon mon]
#26539522 - 03/16/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shit sorry man.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: psi]
#26539526 - 03/16/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Stay safe man. I think it's getting worse.
He was a strong young guy.
Just had a bit of a feever.
No lie. Fuck I'm going to miss him.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: psi]
#26539530 - 03/16/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's terrible. Sorry for you loss dude.
If you don't mind me asking, do you know if he was immunocompromised in some way?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: pirate-blues]
#26539536 - 03/16/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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No he was pretty strong never got sick.
A construction worker. For some reason his body didnt like this thing.
I just talked to him over the phone not so long ago. he sounded alright he was being normal joking around a bit.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: watermelon mon]
#26539566 - 03/16/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fuck. Very sorry to hear that. Had he seen a doctor or anything?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: waves]
#26539573 - 03/16/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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No it took him out fast. The police and ambulance tried to revive him. It happend right here just a hour away from me.
I'm angrey at the CEO of my work place. He said that everything is fine. That we all need to work. He is sitting at home.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: watermelon mon]
#26539574 - 03/16/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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My condolences, Thats shocking.
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koods said: So there’s some data showing that the use of NSAIDS like ibuprofen, aspirin and naproxen to reduce fever can worsen your prognosis. Apparently Tylenol is ok.
Or Paracetamol.
Just reposting to be a reminder.
Stay safe man.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: pacmanbreed]
#26539611 - 03/16/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am pretty sure I have it too. On Thursday I came into contact with someone who has since also started exhibiting symptoms. I was in a car with her for 20 mins, we never touched or hugged, and I washed my hands as soon as I got home. Seems like it's definitely airborne and highly contagious. Had a very mild sore throat the last couple of days, along with some spaceyness. Last night I was up all night with chest tightness, and today my breathing has been laboured. Even opening some packages this morning caused me to be out of breath. I have health issues effected by indoor air quality, so I spent the day outside today and have just come in for the night and I am finding it a little hard to breathe at the moment. I can see why this is so serious in the elderly and those with underlying health issues, the serious effect it has on breathing. Please stay safe everyone
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: PocketLady]
#26539614 - 03/16/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is it possible for the virus to mutate and get stronger?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#26539617 - 03/16/20 10:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes. There are probably multiple strains out there at this point.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Led Zeppelin] 3
#26539620 - 03/16/20 10:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mutations are always possible and there’s no way of knowing which direction they go. It seems that there has apparently been one mutation already, resulting in a weaker version of SARS-CoV-2 that has become more prevalent. Mutations are definitely possible (even probable), and indeed the reason why the “flu shot” is sometimes on the mark and sometimes does almost nothing to help protect those who have it from infection.
I suspect someone here has posted this already (maybe even created it?), but my wife sent me this earlier tonight and I figured it was worth a share... 
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#26539640 - 03/16/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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PumpJackTeX said: Oh no it was accident. Bat Soup. China Sorry.
(Dumb fucking Americans and rest of world. Buy our shit now. Your country is sick)
I do get where your coming at, from the on going dispute around the SEA countries for quite sometime now.
my dad worked for an immigrant chinese bussiness man during 70's-2k and their new gen are far different from the old ones. There is a saying in their own proverbs of every 3rd generations the ancient scriptures also talks of this.
The cure is no pill or vaccine and aint a secret, its posted in the main thread and modern science is rediscovering the ancient knowledge that has been used from the past. It is also wildly use in our tropical country for dengue virus since vaccines where banned and had a bad rap due to the corrupt systems. Thats why we donate blood in our brotherhood congregation. Its in the plasma.
Pulled from old threads.
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pacmanbreed said: flowering plants genome doubled 200 million years ago
Mutation is very much possible to happen with our blood - one of the most active things on earth that have life
Setting aside mutation and considering what is called in science as universal donor, type O blood,
the Bible speaks of definite scientific truth: God “hath made on one blood all nations of men"!
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(THE ACTS 17:26) And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
https://www.todayonline.com/world/china-asks-recovered-patients-donate-plasma-virus-treatment
https://www.ibtimes.sg/johns-hopkins-university-says-blood-plasma-cured-covid-19-patients-may-treat-new-coronavirus-41002
The problem in the west is it's not widely practiced by the medical sectors, and its implementation as we control the spread by cooperation to not overwhelm the beds as we wait for asymptomatic phase to immune phase for that plasma. Believed me, compassion and blood donations will pour on mankind as we shift away from the age of kali-yuga
more preventative measures to add as we wait. Love speed brother
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: waves]
#26539655 - 03/16/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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imachavel said: The last "epidemic" as it should be appropriately called was SARS in 2009-2010 and it was 10x worst and killed 100,000 people in China and made its way to the United States and no one talked about it because "the recession" was being blasted all over the media so no one cared about talking about SARS.
Dude, soooo much of what you are saying is completely wrong. I don't have time to debunk it all, so I'm just going to tackle this part.
The first SARS outbreak killed 774 people in the entire world, and it didn't kill anybody in the US.
This new coronavirus has killed 7,000 people and counting.
So, the new virus is at least 10x worse than the original SARS virus. So you have it exactly backwards.
https://www.cdc.gov/sars/about/faq.html
You should really look stuff up instead of just making up numbers.
And the SARS outbreak in 2002-2003 happened like 6-7 years before the recession hit in 2008-2009.
Really look stuff up instead of making up numbers? Ok
FIRST of all. I said SARS but meant to discuss the 2009 flu epidemic which some have estimated has killed 500,000. But to first address SARS many sources are saying covid-19 is simply a mutated form of SARS. So you would have to include covid-19 in the list of people knocked out by SARS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome
It says it right there in the 2nd paragraph of wikipedia. Also you are still skipping over my point which seemingly won't be addressed which is that much worst diseases such as the 2009 flu outbreak have existed killing many more people and no one really freaked out. HIV has killed 25 million people worldwide. Smallpox wiped out almost all the native American indians and it looked like your skin was literally boiling. Ebola has a 50%-90% mortality rate compared to Corona Virus 2% mortality rate.
Look, its all here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-mortality-rate-covid-19-fatalities-ebola-sars-mers-1489466
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/10/health/epidemics-through-history/
What is the fucking deal about the raging paranoia over this virus? Don't say its justified because of how contagious it is. That is bullshit. Other diseases have been 10x as contagious and no one gave a fuck and you know it. Like the 2009 flu epidemic.
There is political motivation behind this massive scare and of course I do not know what it is but its there.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: pacmanbreed]
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: pirate-blues]
#26539668 - 03/16/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nichrome said: Why is nobody talking about the importance of spreading naturally developed immunity around from person to person (yes immunity spreads from person to person much like a virus)? Quarantine and isolation is the wrong move and has never worked for any "pandemic" or epidemic for that matter.
Because 5% of covid-19 cases develop complications that require serious and intensive care. That along with the normal shit that your average hospital and medical facility is dealing with in any major population center is going to result in so many needless deaths. The last pandemic with a similar death rate was the Spanish Flu which arguably killed more than World War 2.
The CDC and WHO know what herd immunity is and at this point, this is what the world is aiming for - but we're trying to mitigate and minimize the amount of deaths that it's gonna take to get to that point. Everyone getting it all at once is going to fuck us in every which way till sunday.
No everyone thinks that was the last pandemic this bad because its a story being blasted all over the internet is comparing this to Spanish Flu. From what I know Spanish Flu killed almost a million people. It was 100x worst. The last "epidemic" as it should be appropriately called was SARS in 2009-2010 and it was 10x worst and killed 100,000 people in China and made its way to the United States and no one talked about it because "the recession" was being blasted all over the media so no one cared about talking about SARS. This Corona is a baby by comparison. and lets not even bring up black plague and bubonic plague which wiped out 100,000,000 people and almost killed every single person in Europe over 500 years ago.
The Spanish flu killed tens of millions of people. It's hard to get an exact figure but 17 million is by far the lowest, and 100 million is the highest. That was roughly the same death rate as COVID-19. And I'm talking last pandemic, this is a pandemic and has been officially designated one.
Granted that was in 1918, obviously our medical care is in a different league now in industrialized nations, but it's not something to be underestimated. If we overwhelm our medical facilities to the point where they can't care for everyone(which is happening in Italy) then it doesn't particularly matter, does it.
Ok sorry I said a million. The number was way too low. It was actually around 17 million.
So to even further my point, 17 million spanish flu vs 10 thousand and slowly counting coronavirus. Ummm, how the fuck is this a pandemic? How could the term be anywhere more abused or misused? How in the god damn world is coronavirus a pandemic on anything other then the news? Totally blows my mind. Whoever coined coronavirus as a "pandemic" should be executed. Pathetic abusive use of misinformation.
I feel the fever coming on. Oh wait, that is just anger. Dammit
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: imachavel] 1
#26539670 - 03/16/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The 2009 flu was all over the news for a while.
One reason we don’t really deal out about the flu is we have vaccines. Even if it’s not the exact strains, we can reduce transmission and disease severity with even the imperfect vaccines.
SARS was a big deal similar to covid-19. The difference is that we never lost control of SARS. Covid is easier to spread. The viral loads are much higher than sars and asymptomatic transmission is a game changer.
HIV is not the type of infectious disease that is readily spread. HIV requires very specific types of behaviors to infect another person.
Smallpox was endemic and had been for centuries. Lots of immunity in the population. And really could only cause epidemic in naive, isolated populations.
Ebola is also fairly easy to avoid infection. It’s a life changing infection. If it had been able to spread without surveillance in the west, we would have seen what we see now.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#26539674 - 03/16/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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PumpJackTeX said: We are in a War with China.
A trade War.
Trump started it. He said trade wars are easy to win.
We quit buying their shit
Have you noticed everything is made outside of China recently?
We started the trade war. China ended the trade war with a virus.
They have the fucking cure & we dont even have the ability to test the sick for the virus.
Political motivation found. Like I said it is almost like a cold war simulation. Or maybe much more appropriate shots fired in a cold war between the US and China. A cold war is a war where two countries never fire a shot at each other..... ..... Directly that is. These battles are fought through other people by involving each other in other peoples battles or through things like this economic blows and sanctions and biological warfare and shit. Its fucked up. Its like fighting a war with GI Joes and you and the guy you are fighting never actually touch each other, but the GI Joes are real people.
Well, that sounds a lot like real war. But anyway a cold war means the two parties can never directly engage each other only by puppeting other countries and other people and doing shit like this simulating biological warfare and seeing who can quarantine off the fastest. Its a fucking game. Fuck Trump and fuck China and fucking fuck CNN and fuck the CDC. If they shut any more shit down pretty soon the lights will be off at the end of the block and the power as well. It obviously won't get to that point. But the scare is trying to go as far as people will take it and people are eating this shit up like pancakes.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: imachavel] 2
#26539676 - 03/16/20 11:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Of course it’s a pandemic. It’s a virus that unchecked would infect most of the human population within a year. Pretty much everyone you know will get covid this year. All the shit we are doing now is so that doesn’t happen in a month long period but more spread out.
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