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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: waves]
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However when a person in their 40s or what not gets chickenpox it
Almost everyone acquired immunity to chickenpox when they were young becasue it was a common illness. It would be rare for an adult to get it. Now there’s a vaccine so immunity is even more widespread in the community
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26539364 - 03/16/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Daijo said: New law in Canada effective today in grocery stores and likely in pharmacies : cannot buy more of 2 of ANY item.
Two apples, 2x48 pack of beer or 2 individual beers, 2 juice bottles, 2 onions, 2 yogurt or 2 packs of ramen and 2 frozen dinners. It doesn't make sense for everyone.
Some people are limited in what they can eat for dietary reasons or financial reasons.
you got a link? that doesn't sound real or even plausible?
Also I just bought 3 2L cartons of milk since they were out of larger quantities 
That was in place at the grocery when I went today. It may be only in Quebec.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Nichrome] 2
#26539365 - 03/16/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nichrome said: Why is nobody talking about the importance of spreading naturally developed immunity around from person to person (yes immunity spreads from person to person much like a virus)? Quarantine and isolation is the wrong move and has never worked for any "pandemic" or epidemic for that matter.
Because 5% of covid-19 cases develop complications that require serious and intensive care. That along with the normal shit that your average hospital and medical facility is dealing with in any major population center is going to result in so many needless deaths. The last pandemic with a similar death rate was the Spanish Flu which arguably killed more than World War 2.
The CDC and WHO know what herd immunity is and at this point, this is what the world is aiming for - but we're trying to mitigate and minimize the amount of deaths that it's gonna take to get to that point. Everyone getting it all at once is going to fuck us in every which way till sunday.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: mushboy]
#26539380 - 03/16/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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imachavel said: Shit that has been 100x as deadly like Ebola has been scoffed at even though its made its way to the United States.
Um, please tell us what is 100x more deadly than Ebola so I can be terrified.
Nevermind, I misread that.
My understanding is that since Ebola kills people so quickly, it actually makes it less effective at killing massive amounts of people.
This coronavirus is highly contagious, and people can spread it while being totally asymptomatic.
Ebola would be much easier to contain.
While this coronavirus might not kill as effectively, it can ultimately kill many more people more easily than Ebola.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States
Yeah I guess so. Must be.
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Whatever the political motivation is behind this panic I do not know.
i think about that a lot. suspended political gatherings.. suspended voting. restricted travel.. 'national emergencies'..
suspended elections? trump for life. fuhrer 2020
Who the fuck knows right? Who the fuck knows. Its amazing that is for sure. Its like some people are sitting in a house with a pistol ready to blow their head off if they find out they have tested positive. I always feared someone I knew would contract HIV and from then on my life would be forever changed interacting with them etc. I always thought I would be such a pussy about it like trying not to touch the person even knowing that you cannot get it unless they bleed on you.
But now I will never feel like a pussy about that again. A more severe flu that you have 1 in 10 million chance of dying from and a 1 in 2.5 million chance of catching has people shutting down airports, roads, schools, restaurants, grocery stores. I guess my days of thinking I am a wuss are long over.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: koods]
#26539395 - 03/16/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nichrome said: Why is nobody talking about the importance of spreading naturally developed immunity around from person to person (yes immunity spreads from person to person much like a virus)? Quarantine and isolation is the wrong move and has never worked for any "pandemic" or epidemic for that matter.
Because 5% of covid-19 cases develop complications that require serious and intensive care. That along with the normal shit that your average hospital and medical facility is dealing with in any major population center is going to result in so many needless deaths. The last pandemic with a similar death rate was the Spanish Flu which arguably killed more than World War 2.
The CDC and WHO know what herd immunity is and at this point, this is what the world is aiming for - but we're trying to mitigate and minimize the amount of deaths that it's gonna take to get to that point. Everyone getting it all at once is going to fuck us in every which way till sunday.
No everyone thinks that was the last pandemic this bad because its a story being blasted all over the internet is comparing this to Spanish Flu. From what I know Spanish Flu killed almost a million people. It was 100x worst. The last "epidemic" as it should be appropriately called was SARS in 2009-2010 and it was 10x worst and killed 100,000 people in China and made its way to the United States and no one talked about it because "the recession" was being blasted all over the media so no one cared about talking about SARS. This Corona is a baby by comparison. and lets not even bring up black plague and bubonic plague which wiped out 100,000,000 people and almost killed every single person in Europe over 500 years ago.
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Almost everyone acquired immunity to chickenpox when they were young becasue it was a common illness. It would be rare for an adult to get it. Now there’s a vaccine so immunity is even more widespread in the community
Yes I got it at a very young age too like 5 or 6 years old I remember I missed Kindergarten for a week so I wouldn't give it to other kids. My point of bringing it up was to make a comparison to how chickenpox spares the young but if you manage to get it while older it can be brutally deadly.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: imachavel]
#26539399 - 03/16/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Winnie The Pooh fucking did this!
China is about over it while the rest of the world falls into a disaster.
They have the fucking cure!
Everyone there is recovering or recovered with low deaths.
Pretty fucking convenient.
Our government is lying to us.
This could be WW3 & we lost.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: imachavel]
#26539404 - 03/16/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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But this outbreak is still ongoing, the numbers you are comparing to are the totals after those other outbreaks fully ran their course.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: imachavel] 1
#26539406 - 03/16/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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imachavel said: The last "epidemic" as it should be appropriately called was SARS in 2009-2010 and it was 10x worst and killed 100,000 people in China and made its way to the United States and no one talked about it because "the recession" was being blasted all over the media so no one cared about talking about SARS.
Dude, soooo much of what you are saying is completely wrong. I don't have time to debunk it all, so I'm just going to tackle this part.
The first SARS outbreak killed 774 people in the entire world, and it didn't kill anybody in the US.
This new coronavirus has killed 7,000 people and counting.
So, the new virus is at least 10x worse than the original SARS virus. So you have it exactly backwards.
https://www.cdc.gov/sars/about/faq.html
You should really look stuff up instead of just making up numbers.
And the SARS outbreak in 2002-2003 happened like 6-7 years before the recession hit in 2008-2009.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: psi]
#26539409 - 03/16/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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psi said: But this outbreak is still ongoing, the numbers you are comparing to are the totals after those other outbreaks fully ran their course.
When your family & friends are in the hospital dying remember China has the cure.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: imachavel] 1
#26539412 - 03/16/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nichrome said: Why is nobody talking about the importance of spreading naturally developed immunity around from person to person (yes immunity spreads from person to person much like a virus)? Quarantine and isolation is the wrong move and has never worked for any "pandemic" or epidemic for that matter.
Because 5% of covid-19 cases develop complications that require serious and intensive care. That along with the normal shit that your average hospital and medical facility is dealing with in any major population center is going to result in so many needless deaths. The last pandemic with a similar death rate was the Spanish Flu which arguably killed more than World War 2.
The CDC and WHO know what herd immunity is and at this point, this is what the world is aiming for - but we're trying to mitigate and minimize the amount of deaths that it's gonna take to get to that point. Everyone getting it all at once is going to fuck us in every which way till sunday.
No everyone thinks that was the last pandemic this bad because its a story being blasted all over the internet is comparing this to Spanish Flu. From what I know Spanish Flu killed almost a million people. It was 100x worst. The last "epidemic" as it should be appropriately called was SARS in 2009-2010 and it was 10x worst and killed 100,000 people in China and made its way to the United States and no one talked about it because "the recession" was being blasted all over the media so no one cared about talking about SARS. This Corona is a baby by comparison. and lets not even bring up black plague and bubonic plague which wiped out 100,000,000 people and almost killed every single person in Europe over 500 years ago.
The Spanish flu killed tens of millions of people. It's hard to get an exact figure but 17 million is by far the lowest, and 100 million is the highest. That was roughly the same death rate as COVID-19. And I'm talking last pandemic, this is a pandemic and has been officially designated one.
Granted that was in 1918, obviously our medical care is in a different league now in industrialized nations, but it's not something to be underestimated. If we overwhelm our medical facilities to the point where they can't care for everyone(which is happening in Italy) then it doesn't particularly matter, does it.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: PumpJackTeX] 4
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It's possible, but it's just as possible that china is done with it firs simply because they quarantined the fuck out of shit and idk, because it started there.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: audiophoenix]
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audiophoenix said: It's possible, but it's just as possible that china is done with it firs simply because they quarantined the fuck out of shit and idk, because it started there.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: audiophoenix]
#26539433 - 03/16/20 08:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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audiophoenix said: It's possible, but it's just as possible that china is done with it firs simply because they quarantined the fuck out of shit and idk, because it started there.
It may not necessarily be the case that they are done with it either, there are a fuck of a lot of other people in China who have not been exposed to it yet.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: psi]
#26539450 - 03/16/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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We are in a War with China.
A trade War.
Trump started it. He said trade wars are easy to win.
We quit buying their shit
Have you noticed everything is made outside of China recently?
We started the trade war. China ended the trade war with a virus.
They have the fucking cure & we dont even have the ability to test the sick for the virus.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: psi]
#26539460 - 03/16/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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TP hoarding nonsense is finally here! people buying food for a week and TP for two months
also found this yesterday and bought a couple boxes following Asante's recommendation
 (edit: idk why this is upside down, maybe cause I'm in the southern hemisphere )
I don't buy into all the biowarfare paranoia, but the US seems to be the worst place to be during this crisis, take care guys
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: psi] 1
#26539472 - 03/16/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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audiophoenix said: It's possible, but it's just as possible that china is done with it firs simply because they quarantined the fuck out of shit and idk, because it started there.
It may not necessarily be the case that they are done with it either, there are a fuck of a lot of other people in China who have not been exposed to it yet.
 
A group of mine from probiotics farming has a family in china, reported that the rural life there is very diffent. They can move without restriction, while most of majority in the urban cities still stayed indoors and still have restrictions.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: pacmanbreed]
#26539480 - 03/16/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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China knows how to control it perfectly. They created the god damn thing. Wuhan was staged and planned.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#26539481 - 03/16/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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PumpJackTeX said: We are in a War with China.
A trade War.
Trump started it. He said trade wars are easy to win.
We quit buying their shit
Have you noticed everything is made outside of China recently?
We started the trade war. China ended the trade war with a virus.
They have the fucking cure & we dont even have the ability to test the sick for the virus.
Soon the rest of the world will wake-up not to patronize their goods even farther if thats the case..
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: pirate-blues]
#26539484 - 03/16/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nichrome said: Why is nobody talking about the importance of spreading naturally developed immunity around from person to person (yes immunity spreads from person to person much like a virus)? Quarantine and isolation is the wrong move and has never worked for any "pandemic" or epidemic for that matter.
Because 5% of covid-19 cases develop complications that require serious and intensive care. That along with the normal shit that your average hospital and medical facility is dealing with in any major population center is going to result in so many needless deaths. The last pandemic with a similar death rate was the Spanish Flu which arguably killed more than World War 2.
The CDC and WHO know what herd immunity is and at this point, this is what the world is aiming for - but we're trying to mitigate and minimize the amount of deaths that it's gonna take to get to that point. Everyone getting it all at once is going to fuck us in every which way till sunday.
I didn't say we should all go out and have a make-out party. Reducing risk is the thing to do but full quarantine and isolation is the wrong move. You get so many mutated forms of the virus that way along with depressed fearful people who eat crappy food and don't get any sunlight or fresh air. Seems like a recipe for disaster.
Limited exposure but not isolation.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: pacmanbreed]
#26539487 - 03/16/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh no it was accident. Bat Soup. China Sorry.
(Dumb fucking Americans and rest of world. Buy our shit now. Your country is sick)
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