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OnlinePandemoon
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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26444663 - 01/21/20 11:11 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

I always let my freshly harvested shrooms air dry for 24 hours, openly at roomtemp.

Then I cut them into small pieces of an inch or so and put them into a warm oven (80°C/170!F) for an hour or two. Then they are crackerdry. Never had any potency issues. :shrug:

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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26444667 - 01/21/20 11:14 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Cheers, brother, thanks for the love.

My first attempt, i even sliced the mushrooms into quarters so they were really thin. And really blue - won’t be doing that again! So all 500g were dry in under 3 hours!. Second batch I again did at 70C (about 160F) but left the mushrooms whole. There were some really big ones (40g wet each) so they were still bendy after about 5 hours. I then turned the dehydrator down to about 40C and went to bed, took them out 7 hours later.

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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26444669 - 01/21/20 11:15 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

The more feedback I have got and am getting, the more inclined I am to believe my problems were not caused by the temps but by the genetics.

Take care
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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26444688 - 01/21/20 11:27 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

It always speeds up the drying process if you cut the shrooms into small pieces before.

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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26444822 - 01/21/20 01:01 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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DJ Ed said:
The more feedback I have got and am getting, the more inclined I am to believe my problems were not caused by the temps but by the genetics.

Take care
DJ Ed




I think so too. My last MS grow I dried as usual at ~70C (my dehydrator only has one setting), and always took 3.5g for the last trips I had for a proper comparison. I can assure you that for the same flush, dried at the same time, there were bunk ones that felt like 1g, and there were others that sent me pretty far out.
The current belief, as far as I understand, is that the actives are mainly decomposed via enzymes, which can be prevented by heat and drying them as fast as possible.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: sporecap]
    #26446058 - 01/22/20 10:29 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

I dry at max setting (165 F = approx 73 C) and have no issues. I've scoured the posts here about that issue when I was starting and, although there are varying opinions, the consensus I found was that drying at that temperature is fine (apparently the temperature at which the actives degrade is much higher).


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26446105 - 01/22/20 10:49 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Socrateshroom said:
I dry at max setting (165 F = approx 73 C) and have no issues. I've scoured the posts here about that issue when I was starting and, although there are varying opinions, the consensus I found was that drying at that temperature is fine (apparently the temperature at which the actives degrade is much higher).



Yeah tending to agree, Socrateshroom. But when you’ve had two failed trips I certainly clutch at straws as to what went wrong. What’s,changed? Did I boil the tea down too far? Is the thermostat on the dehydrator broken.......

Cheers,
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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26446423 - 01/22/20 01:39 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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DJ Ed said:
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Socrateshroom said:
I dry at max setting (165 F = approx 73 C) and have no issues. I've scoured the posts here about that issue when I was starting and, although there are varying opinions, the consensus I found was that drying at that temperature is fine (apparently the temperature at which the actives degrade is much higher).



Yeah tending to agree, Socrateshroom. But when you’ve had two failed trips I certainly clutch at straws as to what went wrong. What’s,changed? Did I boil the tea down too far? Is the thermostat on the dehydrator broken.......

Cheers,
DJ Ed




That is why I powdered my shrooms into capsules. Now my potency is always consistent. I test a batch after grinding to see their strength and that lets me gauge how to adjust my dosage. With my last batch I tested 1.5g three times and each time the intensity was exactly the same. So I knew that they were pretty average potency and that I can dive into 3g+  with them. On that same batch, before I ground them up, I took two 3g dose of dried mushrooms. The experiences were both clearly of different potency (as is the case when consuming fruits from MS). This problem was solved with capsules. The only downside is that they seem to hit harder and not last as long as whole dried material.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26446499 - 01/22/20 02:40 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

You know what , brother? I’m so lazy! I have never done anything as sensible as that. And guess what .... I’ve had some real disappointing trips, Nd I’ve had some “really caught me off guard strong” trips!

Just started a Mazatapec grow; I’m so excited. And I’m going to do everything right this time, spore prints, agar, and/or clone to LC, towards single genetic grows 👍🏻


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“The problem is not to find the answer, it’s to face the answer.”
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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26447676 - 01/23/20 06:18 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

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Socrateshroom said:
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DJ Ed said:
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Socrateshroom said:
I dry at max setting (165 F = approx 73 C) and have no issues. I've scoured the posts here about that issue when I was starting and, although there are varying opinions, the consensus I found was that drying at that temperature is fine (apparently the temperature at which the actives degrade is much higher).



Yeah tending to agree, Socrateshroom. But when you’ve had two failed trips I certainly clutch at straws as to what went wrong. What’s,changed? Did I boil the tea down too far? Is the thermostat on the dehydrator broken.......

Cheers,
DJ Ed




That is why I powdered my shrooms into capsules. Now my potency is always consistent. I test a batch after grinding to see their strength and that lets me gauge how to adjust my dosage. With my last batch I tested 1.5g three times and each time the intensity was exactly the same. So I knew that they were pretty average potency and that I can dive into 3g+  with them. On that same batch, before I ground them up, I took two 3g dose of dried mushrooms. The experiences were both clearly of different potency (as is the case when consuming fruits from MS). This problem was solved with capsules. The only downside is that they seem to hit harder and not last as long as whole dried material.



This is why I'm excited to try my capsule doses that I'll be making this weekend! Got myself a capsule machine & coffee bean grinder. I'm stoked.

Also, theyll be off a fresh batch of freshly harvested dried mushrooms - which is always nice.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26447919 - 01/23/20 10:06 AM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Having thrown away my last batch of Golden Teacher, I’m back on my stash of air-dried and desiccant chamber B+ this weekend. My only regret is that all my B+ agars contaminated, so I was left with the dried harvest only. At least I know it’s potent as hell - almost feels “heroic” from 3.8g dry....

Have fun, vibe_enthusiast,
DJ Ed


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