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OfflineVibe_Enthusiast
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Purchased 00 capsules
    #26443045 - 01/20/20 11:53 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

Just purchased some 00 gelatin capsules I'm going to use to powder some of my mushrooms down so I have more of a consistent knowing how much each dose does. I've never filled capsules before and wondering if it's worth it to buy a capsule filler?

In my head I'm thinking I could just powder the mushroom and almost use a bowl to just scoop the powder into the body of the capsule? For the one's who do capsules.. please give me your advice!


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26443055 - 01/20/20 12:00 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)

I use

https://capsuleconnection.com/capsule-machine/

Got it at vitamin shoppe.

Was definitely worth it (cost me $20)

You could technically just scoop it into the capsules and use a tool to press the powder down and repeat until you can't anymore but i think each pill will take you a lifetime.

That capsule machine has a tamping tool, and does 24 at a time. There are much better ones (such as automated ones) but in this price range i think this is the best.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26443085 - 01/20/20 12:25 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)

If making a good amount, you definitely want something to hold the capsules. Like Socrateshroom posted. You could get away with modifying, puncture holes in, a peice of styrofoam to hold them also. Maybe a tiny funnel for filling.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Jooby] * 1
    #26443483 - 01/20/20 04:52 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)

Meh, stuffing an ounce into 00 caps doesn't take too long. Get a good tool to smash that shit down and I usually get around .5 into a cap.

I don't like dosing capsules though, even when I bite them before swallowing, it still takes upwards of two hours to even begin feeling effects.

I like chocolates.



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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: HamHead]
    #26443522 - 01/20/20 05:12 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)

I don’t know if it’s just me but powdered capsules seem to affect me differently than eating mushrooms (somewhat anyway). There is a different feel when they come on, they come on quick, and 9/10 I get a blistering headache. Nothing some Advil can’t solve. Capsules are great when traveling, obviously.

Maybe this happens to me because my stomach doesn’t have as much to break down or digest with capsules compared to eating whole mushrooms. No idea.

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Meh, stuffing an ounce into 00 caps doesn't take too long. Get a good tool to smash that shit down and I usually get around .5 into a cap.

I don't like dosing capsules though, even when I bite them before swallowing, it still takes upwards of two hours to even begin feeling effects.

I like chocolates.






That chocolate looks nice :borat:
I wonder why it takes so long for them to hit you? Oddly I have the opposite reaction. The human body and difference between people is odd and fascinating.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26443531 - 01/20/20 05:15 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)

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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Just purchased some 00 gelatin capsules I'm going to use to powder some of my mushrooms down so I have more of a consistent knowing how much each dose does. I've never filled capsules before and wondering if it's worth it to buy a capsule filler?

In my head I'm thinking I could just powder the mushroom and almost use a bowl to just scoop the powder into the body of the capsule? For the one's who do capsules.. please give me your advice!




I used a thing called “The Capsule Machine.” You can purchase it for 00 size for like $20. I think someone posted a link above. I also bought a cheap coffee bean grinder off amazon that works great for turning dried fruits into mvsh powder.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26443673 - 01/20/20 06:41 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)



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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Buckaroo]
    #26444019 - 01/20/20 10:15 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Get a wooden dowel from the craft section of any store, walmart sells a variety pack of different sized wooden dowels and put half the capsule and some powder into a petri dish bottom (The shape of the dish makes it easy to work with).  Hold the capsule against the edge of the dish and use your dowel to guide powder into the capsule, occasionally pick it up and tamp.  Then do the other half and put them together.
You can use a clean allen wrench as a tamping tool if its more accessible.

I'm still doing mine 1 by 1 but $20 to do 100 capsules at once looks enticing.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26444056 - 01/20/20 10:56 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

I used to use a rounded chop stick to force powder into the capsule.
The opened capsule fit snugly on a fat tapered ink pen shaft that allowed me to use it as a funnel, and was wide enough for the chop stick.

Really  trying, I could get capsules with 0.6 grams.

Like the guy said, it can take 2 hours for them to dissolve sometimes. The waiting is awful.
You really gotta have an empty and acidic stomach.
I tried poking holes in them a few times, kinda helps.

Then it hits you kinda hard because once the mush is out, you basically took a powdered dose.

Some great, albeit uncomfortable trips with capsules. But packing them is tedious with little gain in my opinion.

To consume an eighth, you gotta get down 6+ fat, nasty capsules. Then wait forever.

i felt like I was going to choke a few times.

Never bought the machine. Tried making one because I'm cheap, could make more at once, but still was kinda whatever.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Ithoughtshewasme]
    #26444366 - 01/21/20 06:53 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

I did purchase a cheap capsul machine I'll use. You guys seem to have issues with waiting for the effects to kick in via capsules?

I have a pestle and mortar I use to powder my mushrooms!


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26444449 - 01/21/20 08:36 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Get an electric coffee grinder, it's under 20 bucks via amazon, and keeps good for decades.
Simply safes time and efford compared to mortar and pestle, and gets your shrooms literally to dust within 15sec.

You can shredd everything with that easily. Woodrose seeds, dmt bark.. everything. It's worth it. :sun:

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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26444453 - 01/21/20 08:40 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Yes! Buy a capsule filler. I like "The Capsule Machine" brand filler the most. In "OO" caps I fit about 0.33g. I've been doing this for years and the filler is the way to go.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26444516 - 01/21/20 09:28 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

One thing I’ve picked up, people, from this thread, is that you need to grind your dried mushrooms into powder. Now I recently acquired a dehydrator, but the fruits on both trips were really weak. I normally have to chop my dried mushrooms using scissors, to make a tea, but with this dehydrated batch, I can crumble them to powder in seconds with my fingers.

Now I’ve heard many reports on here that at 70degC I will not damage my mushrooms, but I’m starting to think maybe I did, and that next harvest I should dehydrate at a lower temperature; such that I can’t crumble them to powder with my fingers.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26444564 - 01/21/20 10:04 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

I don't get how people are saying they can get .5 or .6 in each capsule. The most I can get is .3 per capsule.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26444585 - 01/21/20 10:19 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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DJ Ed said:
One thing I’ve picked up, people, from this thread, is that you need to grind your dried mushrooms into powder. Now I recently acquired a dehydrator, but the fruits on both trips were really weak. I normally have to chop my dried mushrooms using scissors, to make a tea, but with this dehydrated batch, I can crumble them to powder in seconds with my fingers.

Now I’ve heard many reports on here that at 70degC I will not damage my mushrooms, but I’m starting to think maybe I did, and that next harvest I should dehydrate at a lower temperature; such that I can’t crumble them to powder with my fingers.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,
DJ Ed




I dehydrate mine at the lowest setting on my dehydrator (95F). Zero problem with potency loss. I'd say def dehydrate at a lower temp if you're having issue. Also you don't need to totally powder them to make tea...


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: light4x]
    #26444587 - 01/21/20 10:20 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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I don't get how people are saying they can get .5 or .6 in each capsule. The most I can get is .3 per capsule.




That's my experience. 0.33g per cap and that's with the caps paaaaaacked.


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #26444596 - 01/21/20 10:27 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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I dehydrate mine at the lowest setting on my dehydrator (95F). Zero problem with potency loss. I'd say def dehydrate at a lower temp if you're having issue. Also you don't need to totally powder them to make tea...




Yes think I’ll do the next batch at my lowest setting (35degC), just leave it running overnight.

The powder aspects. My dried mushrooms have never been this dry when previously I fan dried then desiccant chamber. Humidity meter never got below 10%. These dehydrated ones though were so dry, there’s,loads of powder from just getting them out the freezer tub, and when I broke them up for the tea, they literally disintegrated into powder. There were a few clumps left but I’d say 70% powder.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26444618 - 01/21/20 10:38 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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One thing I’ve picked up, people, from this thread, is that you need to grind your dried mushrooms into powder. Now I recently acquired a dehydrator, but the fruits on both trips were really weak. I normally have to chop my dried mushrooms using scissors, to make a tea, but with this dehydrated batch, I can crumble them to powder in seconds with my fingers.

Now I’ve heard many reports on here that at 70degC I will not damage my mushrooms, but I’m starting to think maybe I did, and that next harvest I should dehydrate at a lower temperature; such that I can’t crumble them to powder with my fingers.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,
DJ Ed



Properly stored mushrooms should crumble at the pinch of a finger. My last batch that I stored, I didn't dry completely and took a batch out of them a few days ago (when I spoke of that weak trip I had).. and put two and two together. I went and checked on that jar and all of my mushrooms were like a "soft" dry - no crumble. Storing them like this over months loses potency.

I've read over and over again, heat doesn't effect potency, at least with the heat we would be dealing with. I dry my mushrooms at 160f for 12 hours (they're usually done by 10 but I just let it go) until cracker dry and turns to powder at a pinch.

I feel okay with doing this because I make tea all the time as well and boil them for 20 mins and no loss in potency and boiling water sits at 212f.

I wouldn't worry about damaging the mushrooms! IME - mushrooms that haven't been correctly dried lose potency, much much faster! Found that out the hard way. 80g lost.

At least I have all these new harvests coming in. Back to having more mushrooms than I know what to do with:lol:


Also --

I purchased a coffee bean grinder because you guys all talked me into it. Got it for $9 on amazon!


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26444650 - 01/21/20 11:02 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Yeah lol I’m ramping up too, brother ✊🏻

Mazatapec spore syringe injected into 6 quart jars of rye last night. And I’ve now got all the correct gear to follow Bod’s easy AF Monotub Tek (no pasteurisation needed, soak 650g coir brick over night in boiling water then mix in the spawn and put into monotub, real easy). I’m really excited. Got some new Petri dishes, and agar agar, so from the first flush I’m going to take prints and try to isolate single genetics. I might even clone a mushroom into LC and play around with that..... Once I get to a homogenous potency flush I’m going to trial dehydrating them at varying temperatures, then note any objective and / or subjective differences. I trust your judgement, but more than a few people have also told me they have fried a harvest so only dehydrate at 95degF, which for me is 35degC.

Even though all my previous harvests have been fan dried for a few days then put into a desiccant chamber to get down to 10% RH, I never noticed any loss of potency at all. I can therefore only put my recent weak harvest down to poor genetics. The grain jars took 5 weeks whereas usually they’re done in 3.......

Take care,
DJ Ed


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Re: Purchased 00 capsules [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26444658 - 01/21/20 11:08 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Hey DJ :smile: I dry mine anywhere from 110F-140F. At the higher temperatures I haven’t noticed any loss in potency. When you have a big harvest to manage it definitely helps to get them dry quicker. My last flush was about 5oz and there was no way I was going to be able to dry them all without it taking days at a low temp, so I did it at 130F for most the time and 140F to finish. Took around 8-9 hours. All the best, hope you’re doing well :smile:


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