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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26444875 - 01/21/20 06:06 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Do they?


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: Backbone]
    #26445325 - 01/21/20 10:08 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Do they?




???? Do they......


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26445416 - 01/21/20 11:23 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

But who just knows a mushroom dealer?


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26445455 - 01/22/20 12:15 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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I would aruge there is some stigma for me for shroom dealers. Not because they are selling shrooms, but because the shrooms they sell are typically insanely potent and not very friendly on the mind or new comers. Hence Dealer Shrooms.

If Shroom Dealers grew shrooms more like how homegrown shrooms feel (gentle, introspective, friendly, not overly potent, calmer, more spiritual, less chaotic) then I would have more respect for them.

But since Dealer Shrooms (cubenis grown by expert growers for max potency) are so different than the pleasant feel of homegrown, I do have some animosity toward them. Do they even dose themselves? Do you really think that's how the shroom experience should go? I feel like they lack the understanding of their own shroom effects.




Is this a troll statement? :lol: it makes completely no sense to me.

This would only be true if all growers are growing penis envy over regular cubensis, which they're not


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26445489 - 01/22/20 12:39 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Not a troll statement, a statement based on actual experience buying dealer shrooms.

If youve ever bought legit dealer shrooms, you would know know exactly what Im talking about :yesnod:


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26445492 - 01/22/20 12:41 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

:dawerp: obvious sarcasm is obvious


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26445510 - 01/22/20 01:07 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Not a troll statement, a statement based on actual experience buying dealer shrooms.

If youve ever bought legit dealer shrooms, you would know know exactly what Im talking about :yesnod:




This is a forum for spreading reliable information.

Someone selling their home grown mushrooms is no different than growing the mushrooms and consuming them yourself the only real difference is.. you sold them instead of ate them


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26445511 - 01/22/20 01:08 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Worst trip of my life was on dealer shrooms. Interesting. Something about those mushrooms was fucking nasty. I jokingly attributed it to them having been grown in a place with bad vibes. Homegrown we’re always gentle.


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: CountHTML]
    #26445513 - 01/22/20 01:10 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Worst trip of my life was on dealer shrooms. Interesting. Something about those mushrooms was fucking nasty. I jokingly attributed it to them having been grown in a place with bad vibes. Homegrown we’re always gentle.




It's not a joke, intentions are everything. Not all mushroom growers are out to rob people for money, every one I know grows them with the highest intention and with Love.

Now.. let's talk about that "dealer acid" and how it works the same way :smile:


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: CountHTML]
    #26445556 - 01/22/20 02:40 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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Worst trip of my life was on dealer shrooms. Interesting. Something about those mushrooms was fucking nasty. I jokingly attributed it to them having been grown in a place with bad vibes. Homegrown we’re always gentle.




CountHTML gets it! I much prefer homegrown over dealer shrooms. Theres something odd about dealer cubes. Its almost like they are laced but they are not. They are just grown in such a way that makes a person "manic" when they take them.

Ive had a similar experience with wild Ps cyans. They feel pretty similar to dealer shrooms but still not as potent/mania-inducing as the dealer cubes.


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26445765 - 01/22/20 07:45 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Generally, dealers are dealers.
No one likes a car salesman's shtick nor their overpriced product. The same can be said for drug dealers.

The problem is that, generally, people selling mushrooms are salesmen and not growers. They don't much care about the origins of their product or the methods by which they fell into their hands - they just want good prices, bag appeal, and a steady connection to their source. They want money, and that's generally stingy and of the worst intention. They also generally sell a menagerie of drugs for that same capital desire, further degrading any sense of genuineness.

So... pair that with illegal black market transactions and an ICP poster tacked up on the wall with scotch tape and you have the worst possible experience with trying to find a means to enlighten yourself.


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26445825 - 01/22/20 08:37 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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The problem is that, generally, people selling mushrooms are salesmen and not growers. They don't much care about the origins of their product or the methods by which they fell into their hands




You just know the wrong people at that point. I know tons of mushroom dealers that grow for high spiritual intent, it's a spiritual mission for most of them, to get real medicine out to the world, to heal and raise consciousness within the world. Somebody has to get mushrooms out to the world, and there's a lot who are. It's about who you know, and who you choose to associate yourself with.


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CountHTML gets it! I much prefer homegrown over dealer shrooms. Theres something odd about dealer cubes. Its almost like they are laced but they are not. They are just grown in such a way that makes a person "manic" when they take them.

Ive had a similar experience with wild Ps cyans. They feel pretty similar to dealer shrooms but still not as potent/mania-inducing as the dealer cubes.




Okay :lol: well that makes even less sense, and I know you are trolling now. If "Dealer shrooms" feel similar to Ps. Cyan then it would probably be some great mushrooms.. Psilocybe cyanescense is my favorite mushroom, and anything grown from mother Earth has the highest most natural intention.

It seems you have made a weird belief system which correlates someone selling mushrooms which will make the trip potent and mania inducing, if that was true it would be my case too, but I have never had that experience.

Especially if you're relating cubensis being sold as comparative to Ps. Cyan hell that's the best mushroom in the world in my book.


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26445859 - 01/22/20 08:55 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

That's why I littered that statement with generalization.

I think most people are not as fortunate as you to have spiritual mushroom peddlers.

Most of those I know who grow mushrooms and revere them spiritually just give them out, only asking for an extremely fair price if someone else wants to distribute them. But even that first transaction starts the incremental process of washing away the purity of the intention.


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: footpath]
    #26445883 - 01/22/20 09:04 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

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That's why I littered that statement with generalization.

I think most people are not as fortunate as you to have spiritual mushroom peddlers.

Most of those I know who grow mushrooms and revere them spiritually just give them out, only asking for an extremely fair price if someone else wants to distribute them. But even that first transaction starts the incremental process of washing away the purity of the intention.




Yes totally!

But not if the intention is to charge a fair price, that is economically doable for the individual. At the end of the day the growers I know(not the entirety) hold high moral values, and only allow their mushrooms to be re-sold to people with the same intentions, they also give a lot of their mushrooms away for free as well. But it also takes experience, knowledge and hard work to grow them as well as risk, this is usually why the price comes into play to simply make back the time you have put into them.


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26445911 - 01/22/20 09:18 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

To stand out in “business” your product needs to be unique or good quality to be succefull right?

I’ve had some average ones that always seem the same but one time way back  some hippies had some that they were adamant were strong. Told me not to eat more than 3.5. They weren’t hiking the price because of it either. Weren’t PE just normal cubes. They were great! Some of the best I’ve had!

Maybe they cloned or isolated? I don’t know maybe placebo but wanted to throw that in.

Anyone ever clone or isolate something special?


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26445914 - 01/22/20 09:19 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

It's true. No doubt, they do deserve the equal exchange for what they've put into it.

I try my best to just relate it to a passionate shiitake farmer who just needs the means to keep producing their beloved shiitakes to nourish the community - it's no fault of theirs that the necessary materials cost money to obtain. And their time should be valued in exchange for your nourishment.

But, unfortunately, there's an overwhelming amount of this guy:


Now, since we're talking about intention and all that, I don't want to label someone unfairly... maybe that lad genuinely just wants people to have a good time and feel better.
But... eh.
And, unfortunately still, that guy is the only resource for a lot of people. Perhaps most people.


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: footpath]
    #26445935 - 01/22/20 09:30 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

I totally see your perspective and it is very sad! You can almost guarantee someone selling 1/8th for 50 has a very greedy intention, the only thing they want from you is the money, not for you to have a friendly loving experience. Only case in which this is not is if they purchased them for around the same(which would be highly unlikely unless from another greedy intention) and are trying to make a little back, which would make the seller have good intent, but the original vibration and mushroom designed with negative intent.


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: footpath]
    #26445944 - 01/22/20 09:35 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

I dunno, I never really met a shroom (and nothing else) dealer. Didn’t think there’s real money in a substance that’s not addictive and not something that can be taken recreationally every day. Maybe there’s people selling some for grocery money or w.e., but mostly it’s drug dealers offering them as a side-treat. Usually the hippie ppl selling lsd, molly, maybe coke. Like “oh btw, I also have some gold caps bruh. Eat the caps for visuals and the stems for body load bruh.”

I’ve never thought worse of any drug dealer just cause they deal though:shrug:


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26445958 - 01/22/20 09:42 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

That is because most mushroom growers aren't street level dealers, they're not the ones openly selling the product, they sell by the pound, usually multiples of pounds at once to a few individuals, from there it trickles down


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Re: Is there a stigma on shroom dealers? Does it bother you? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26445990 - 01/22/20 09:56 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Sounds marginally profitable and immensely dumb:popcorn:

Just tried to find prices on DNMs and can’t find any mushies at all, except stones that are shipped from NL. $200 an oz:rofl2: they gotta be fucking kidding


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