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OfflineJasonCas
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Question About 'Galerina Marginata' Picture I Found On Shroom ID Site - Is It Really a Galerina?
    #26243893 - 10/11/19 01:06 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

EDIT: Got my answer. Looks like this picture was pulled from another site talking about cyanescens. It was then flipped and saturated to make the gills look more orange (and maybe to avoid a take down by the other website's owner). The picture here is indeed Cyanescens. (Original unedited picture talking about identifying Ps. Cyanescens here)

My apologies if this isn't the correct place to post this, but I found a picture on a website called "morelmushroomhunting.com." I wanted to get your perspectives. Keep in mind that I DID NOT TAKE THIS PICTURE. This was something I found online (second image that comes up when you search "Galerina Marginata" on Google.

(You can find the page in question here)



While there are at least a couple in the back that are iffy to me for a couple reasons (brownish stipe, round cap), I'm still not sure they aren't cyans and would likely just get extra good prints to put my mind at ease. 

I've NEVER seen galerina marginatas look so close to cyanescens before. Also, the stipes in the harvested mushrooms seem to be all white with blue bruising and no visible annulus. There's no black bruising at the base. The smaller mushroom on the bottom left also seems to have a cobwebby veil that's breaking, which isn't characteristic of a marginata. There's no rusty spore stains towards the top of the stipes either on any of the picked mushrooms. There does seem to be a ring of some sort towards the top, but it looks more like bruising than anything else. The mushrooms in the back that are still growing do seem to have brownish stipes. It almost looks to me as if this was a picture of cyanescens with color saturation turned up and perhaps even the shading was adjusted a bit. The colors do seem a bit brighter than what's natural. But I wanted your feedback because I don't really know what to think. If Galerinas can really look so close to a cyanescens, that's a bit freaky and something we should all be taking into consideration when picking. If these ARE cyans, then that's just another reason to get your info from multiple sources and be sure it's reliable.


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Re: Question About 'Galerina Marginata' Picture I Found On Shroom ID Site - Is It Really a Galerina? [Re: JasonCas]
    #26243909 - 10/11/19 01:22 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Doh.... I don't think those are Galerina....

On a general note - *always* have some healthy skepticism of any single photo or web page you look at. I see tons of things that are mislabeled, especially if they are on non-mushroom sites - like photo sharing or stock image pages.


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Re: Question About 'Galerina Marginata' Picture I Found On Shroom ID Site - Is It Really a Galerina? [Re: JasonCas]
    #26243913 - 10/11/19 01:27 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

They enjoy similar habitat and can be found growing in close proximity, but cyanescens are easily identifiable by their stark white stems, wavy caps, distinctive blue bruising and purple spore print.


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Re: Question About 'Galerina Marginata' Picture I Found On Shroom ID Site - Is It Really a Galerina? [Re: Magic Badger] * 1
    #26243917 - 10/11/19 01:37 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Neither do I, which is why I was so annoyed when they were...

- the second picture that comes up when you search (or at least when I search) Galerina Marginata

- At the top of a page dedicated to identifying Galerina Marginata

It almost seems like it was posted in bad faith when you look at the way the color was changed and over saturated... Bizarre and annoying that a website attempting to teach people how to ID a deadly mushroom would put such a misleading picture at the top of their "deadly galerina" page with no other description. Also, the rest of the page described marginatas pretty accurately, so it's not like they're clueless.

@kneesocks Yea. It made me pretty paranoid when I first saw this picture last year when I was learning how to identify them. I thought "these are really easy to mix up!" I'm very confident when I find cyans. Still, I always get spore prints and pictures to make doubly sure that there isn't a doppelganger in the mix. It's reassuring to know these aren't actually Marginatas though. Thanks for the feedback!


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Re: Question About 'Galerina Marginata' Picture I Found On Shroom ID Site - Is It Really a Galerina? [Re: JasonCas]
    #26243923 - 10/11/19 01:40 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I think I found where he swiped the photo from.... it's the header on a page about P. Cyanescans...

http://ffsc.us/MOM/Wavy_Caps


there *is* a pic of Galerina further down the page.


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Re: Question About 'Galerina Marginata' Picture I Found On Shroom ID Site - Is It Really a Galerina? [Re: Magic Badger]
    #26243927 - 10/11/19 01:44 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a link to the page I was referring to - https://morelmushroomhunting.com/species-list/poisonous/deadly-galerina-galerina-marginata-or-galerina-autumnalis/

I also edited my post and added the link.

When I compare the two... Jesus... He flipped the photo and saturated it to make the gills look more orange... LOL...

This is frustrating to see... When someone is running a site that has misinformation like this, it kind of pisses me off :/

maybe he didn't mean anything by it. But it's still not cool when you're trying to speak with authority about a deadly look-alike mushroom.


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Re: Question About 'Galerina Marginata' Picture I Found On Shroom ID Site - Is It Really a Galerina? [Re: JasonCas]
    #26441761 - 01/19/20 02:03 PM (4 years, 28 days ago)

Did anyone happen to reach out to the website that took that photo and edited it? I personally find it to be offensive and dangerous to take a photo of an edible mushroom and edit it to look like a poisonous mushroom.


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Re: Question About 'Galerina Marginata' Picture I Found On Shroom ID Site - Is It Really a Galerina? [Re: mybattybelfry]
    #26441886 - 01/19/20 03:57 PM (4 years, 28 days ago)

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mybattybelfry said:
Did anyone happen to reach out to the website that took that photo and edited it? I personally find it to be offensive and dangerous to take a photo of an edible mushroom and edit it to look like a poisonous mushroom.



I looked up the link but Facebook seems to be the only way to contact the person that set up the website.


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