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OfflineC12ShroomMan
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Looking for some guideance on my first grow
    #26441698 - 01/19/20 03:18 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Great source of info here! I think i've got enough to begin but had some questions.

I found a good deal from a trusted reddit seller so i bought 4 different cube strain syringes. :rasta:

Materials: small pressure cooker fits 4 12oz mason jars, large bag of verm & WBS, 70qt sterlite clear container,1"medical tape, 12-24w 6000k cfls

Grow space: hottest room of house in winter in a large closet with 2 accordion style opening doors(i think these allow a little more air flow/light when cracked open compared to a standard door)

General plan: pasteurize jars in PC, inoc, colonize and then break up into 70qt tub and fruit in closet with 1 or 2 cfls a couple inches above the container lid.



Questions:
Jar prep- I have some barley malted grains(unused left over from beer making... or maybe even the used grain?) would that be better than WBS? should i blend up the WBS/grain first?
Medical tape on the jar lid holes before PC? (will be covered with foil as well)

bulk substrate prep: is dumping boiling water into substrate in bucket and covering good enough sterilizing?
I have some old used coco coir, would it be ok to use that with verm 50/50 mix ?
I'll have about 50oz of colonized material to spread around, will this be enough?

Growing: The room is around 66-72 usually but 20% humidity.
Should i colonize the jars in my closet or a more sealed gym locker style cabinet i also have?

Should i adjust my grow container plan for my low humidity?
container is about 24"Lx14"x14". planning on drilling 1/4" holes 5" from bottom spaced 2" apart with 2 1x1" holes at the top on the long sides and 1 1x1" on the short sides, whats the best distance from the top to put those holes?

I assume my substrate height should be about 1" lower than the bottom holes or more?

Hole taping: Any guidance on where and when to remove tape? when colonizing the bulk sub they will all be taped but will foil over the sub help or don't bother?
During the fruiting:ever remove bottom tape?

After the grow: If i wanted to make chocolate cubes would drying and grinding all mushrooms then adding to a large amount of chocolate and mixing before spooning into cubes distribute dosage equally or could i end up with a few really strong ones at the bottom? vs mixing a weighed amount of the ground material into each chocolate cube?

Well that was a lot more questions than i thought! hope i was clear enough but i can take some pics if needed.
Thanks in advance for any help!


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26442086 - 01/19/20 08:01 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Sounds like you did your research, but it's a lot of info and you're unsure about it. Don't overthink it. Just pick a tek and follow that to a T. I used Bod's Teks. Unmodified tubs, agar, oats, and that's easy. My monotub was a shoebox, no modification needed.

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is dumping boiling water into substrate in bucket and covering good enough sterilizing?



no, it's not sterilization at all. The whole point is that sterilization isn't needed at this step.

All your questions are good questions, but don't matter. Just follow the tek and your questions will answer themselves.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: Raccoon]
    #26442353 - 01/19/20 11:02 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Thanks, I went and read through some more of BOD's threads.
Going to follow his tek more closely. but i still want to experiment with WBS/Verm.

Going to look for some coir tomorrow, start preping jars for the spores that get here tuesday :smile:

I guess the one thing i'm wondering now is when to add light? after fully colonized or wait for pinning?


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26442528 - 01/20/20 02:40 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Spores directly to grain? I've always read that that's risky, hence why the pf Tek exists... But I just read this forum and it might be okay. Good luck.

I put the light on right away, but it probably doesn't need it until pinning.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: Raccoon]
    #26443511 - 01/20/20 07:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Raccoon said:
Spores directly to grain? I've always read that that's risky, hence why the pf Tek exists... But I just read this forum and it might be okay. Good luck.

I put the light on right away, but it probably doesn't need it until pinning.




I'll probably put together a order to work with agar but for starting out now just want to get something going. I have to leave for a week end of Feb so i'd like to harvest some before / not have to care for it much.

Scored some brick coir at petco and decided to think about smaller tubs or shoe box size. Will just fruit 1 or 2 in jars. See how this works out with my limited 48oz batch size(4x12oz) in small pressure cooker.

I think the shoe box size harvest is good for my needs but i like the idea of less daily fuss in a larger bin. :mushroom2::crazy2:

Also haven't had any mushrooms in 10 years, just a couple low 1.5g doses


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26444713 - 01/21/20 01:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Are the plastic mason jar lids with seals safe for sterilization in a pressure cooker?

As I write this I'm questioning everything on this.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: JMewes_13]
    #26445156 - 01/21/20 10:13 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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JMewes_13 said:
Are the plastic mason jar lids with seals safe for sterilization in a pressure cooker?

As I write this I'm questioning everything on this.




Not sure, something to check in the item details.

Got my spores today and 4 shoe box containers.
Made up my grain and jars (4 all grain, 4 1:2 verm)
Spent some time stressing about the lid tech i wanted but went as planned with 2 1/8 or so holes covered with medical tape.
I guess it should be ok to retape over after the needle puts a hole in it.

Got 4 jars in the PC now, gonna make the SEB tomorrow and shoot em up :cool:


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26446211 - 01/22/20 01:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Made my SAB with a large old can on the stove for 4 minutes.
Had enough heat to cut both holes, slight pressure and rotation and it cut through easily.

Sprayed everything clean with iso and dipped and flamed the needle between jars. Hopefully no contams!
Put 2 in the locker and 6 in my closet.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26446271 - 01/22/20 02:21 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

looks like you're definitely doing your research. Couple suggestions:

1. Light is always helpful at all stages so keep some light on those jars.

2. I LOVE plastic jar lids. They PC very well and don't get nasty like the metal ones eventually do.

3. You should really look into agar, it saves a ton of time and frustration with the long germination times on grains and removes most of the guesswork from syringe inoculation.

a media bottle, premade agar powder, and some petri dishes and you're well on your way.

Good luck with the grow, come back with pics!


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: meercat]
    #26450028 - 01/24/20 03:27 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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meercat said:
looks like you're definitely doing your research. Couple suggestions:

1. Light is always helpful at all stages so keep some light on those jars.

2. I LOVE plastic jar lids. They PC very well and don't get nasty like the metal ones eventually do.

3. You should really look into agar, it saves a ton of time and frustration with the long germination times on grains and removes most of the guesswork from syringe inoculation.

a media bottle, premade agar powder, and some petri dishes and you're well on your way.

Good luck with the grow, come back with pics!




Thanks, I just moved all the jars to the locker and will leave the door open. watching the temp closely and its the coldest in the closet around 67-68. Will try keeping the locker around 75.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26450659 - 01/24/20 09:39 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26453647 - 01/26/20 04:23 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I tend to pick up new hobbies and spend a little too much and lose interest, Like with my beer brewing.
I'm trying not to go too crazy but getting that exciting ocd  feeling thinking about a new hobby again. Was about to buy the 500pk petri dish because it seems like the only deals are 20-30 for 50cents each or 500 for 15 cents each but then i came across Alien's no pour tek and these containers seem like they may save some time compared to regular petri dishes so i'm trying both.

Hopefully the 20pk petri will hold me over till the other containers get here.
All the stuff to start agar should be here by friday (non prime member :frown: ) I figure i'll sterilize a few q-tips jarred in the PC and use the spore syringe without the needle, get a few drops, swab and put the syringe cap back on for later use.
If i start 2 strains on 2 dishes each i should have enough plates to make a few transfers and start dropping wedges into grain jars.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26453687 - 01/26/20 04:45 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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C12ShroomMan said:
I tend to pick up new hobbies and spend a little too much and lose interest, Like with my beer brewing.
I'm trying not to go too crazy but getting that exciting ocd  feeling thinking about a new hobby again. Was about to buy the 500pk petri dish because it seems like the only deals are 20-30 for 50cents each or 500 for 15 cents each but then i came across Alien's no pour tek and these containers seem like they may save some time compared to regular petri dishes so i'm trying both.

Hopefully the 20pk petri will hold me over till the other containers get here.
All the stuff to start agar should be here by friday (non prime member :frown: ) I figure i'll sterilize a few q-tips jarred in the PC and use the spore syringe without the needle, get a few drops, swab and put the syringe cap back on for later use.
If i start 2 strains on 2 dishes each i should have enough plates to make a few transfers and start dropping wedges into grain jars.




Totally get the hobby thing, you start out and find it really interesting and want all the best toys only to not be instantly good at it and get frustrated. Been there for sure.

For inoculating plates theoretically you should use an inoculation loop to get the best results.

Bod has a great DIY inoculation loop tek here. I just bought one cuz i'm lazy. His comprehensive agar tek is also worth a readhere. You don't necessarily need a loop to do plates but I would recommend against using q-tips because idk how you would get those completely sterile. You can just drop a few spores on the surface of the plate after flaming the needle and you should have success.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: meercat]
    #26457098 - 01/28/20 05:40 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Made a loop and will be using it tonight.
Amazon actually shipped my order quick this time!
Not sure if they repacked these petri dishes into 10 packs *sterile* like the add say for a 20pk.
Either way i made up my first batch of agar with malt extract... just now realizing i forgot to add the yeast.
Moved my SAB to the basement so my cats can't play with it.
Poured my first plates, i knew just enough to coat the bottom but put way too much in the first few. I let it cool a little too long and started to get blobby at the end, also tried to level out the full plates and made some mess :blush:

Gonna go down and swab a couple after dinner and wrap the rest.
maybe i should of just ordered that 500pk ... ha


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26474045 - 02/07/20 04:29 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Little over 2 weeks on the jars, see nothing yet
8 days on the plates, nothing either.
even looked under a microscope at 4x at a couple spots i thought might be something but just small weird dots on agar.

squirted too much out of syringe as i couldn't pressure it properly but one is better than the other. one with a tiny bit of liquid.

also not sure if my agar was too firm, temps kinda low around 68.
just added a cfl light today


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26474434 - 02/07/20 08:29 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Little over 2 weeks on the jars, see nothing yet
8 days on the plates, nothing either.




That seems like a while for the spores to germinate. From personal experience mycelium (or something else) appears on agar in at most 6 days. Maybe the spore syringes you got were from an unrepeatable source and didn't contain the spores.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: cattledog]
    #26474703 - 02/07/20 11:05 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Little over 2 weeks on the jars, see nothing yet
8 days on the plates, nothing either.




That seems like a while for the spores to germinate. From personal experience mycelium (or something else) appears on agar in at most 6 days. Maybe the spore syringes you got were from an unrepeatable source and didn't contain the spores.





Looked closer at both plates and can see 3 black dots by eye on one and under 40x do look like spores. looking closer at the syringes they maybe a little sparse on spores and there is some clumping being contained by transparent film that's making it hard to break apart when i shake it.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26474717 - 02/07/20 11:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

You are off to a far better start than I had the first time. It took about 6 weeks to get everything running smoothly for me. Lots of adjustments that really helped.

I think your research is good from a beginner like mes point of view. I just did 10 jars in a PC I am worried the verm is bouncing around since I PCed them for 60 minutes. I am still waiting to see if they go. The room idea is a good one! I am using heating pads and fish heaters. They do not scale well now that I have moved on to agar, prints and making my own syringes. Those are also a work in progress but a lot of combinations. With that effort as you print and close track there characteristics since you have so many different types. Cleanliness and patience seem to be the two most important aspects. The mushrooms will tell you what is going on by looking at them and the surface. I got all that information on this site over the last two months. Good luck!


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: Yumyumyumyum]
    #26475450 - 02/08/20 02:59 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Thanks, I spent another few hours looking at my plates under microscope, looking google images for germinating spores, etc
I'm not too experienced with the microscope either.
Kinda think i see the small hyphae tubes but not really branching and connecting a lot.

Also looked at others spore syringe pictures and mine looked to contain less than any of them, maybe thats why they were 6$ ea

I don't think the 'single drop' from syringe on a loop method would work for me. Would rather work with prints i think.
For long term i'm not sure why i would want to make syringes.

Figured agar plates ,slants, and doing G2G could sustain a long term grow cycle, am i wrong?

Also wondering if G2G can be sustained indefinitely as long as no contamination?


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26487209 - 02/15/20 04:51 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

still nothing, at least i know i'm working clean enough or my agar is too fuked to grow bacteria....

Found the syringe that seems to have the most 'stuff' in it ('pf classic') and use it to drop out a few ml onto a plate that i was sure had some material in it.
From there i used a loop and wipe transferred from that plate to 3 more... hopefully something made it over.

I leave in 2 weeks so it would be nice to see any kind of progress before then 0_0


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26487233 - 02/15/20 05:13 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I tried a bunch of different methods. Prints, soaked caps, inner stem and cap. The scrapings off the side of a mature mushroom. So far only 3 out of 9 jars are growing(But they are in a much better chamber now)Dish out of 13 only 2 show nice clean growth, 2 decent growth but something going on. 4 going really slow but are clean. The other 5 were busts. I got all my equipment now to make everything and a much better understanding. Time will tell. It seems to be the one thing much like watching paint peel or a pot boiling it will happen sooner or later most of the time later and some times not. My first go was jars off ebay, syringe from a good vendor. 5 took one did not, 4 good cakes that produce while everything else gets its shit together. This guy had some useful information for knuckleheads like me.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: Yumyumyumyum]
    #26495822 - 02/20/20 08:35 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Finally see some real action in 2/4 of the plates i made up the other day. A lot of different growth sites in the plate i put all the liquid in. I'm trying not to move it as it will be a few more days before its all evaporated but i was able to get some pics (40x under microscope) of the 2 spots growing on one of the transfer plates. :smile:


This top one was actually mold


This was myc


Edited by C12ShroomMan (03/09/20 09:19 PM)


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26496030 - 02/20/20 10:32 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Damn those are cool pics C12. Reminds me of the moon :awesomenod:


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26498279 - 02/22/20 12:29 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Damn those are cool pics C12. Reminds me of the moon :awesomenod:




Thanks, i think it was easier to get pics through the scope eyepiece than it is to get my cell cam to focus through a petridish.

I can now see white growth by eye, and the 'dump' plate seems dry and is exploding with growth.

I'm thinking later today i might pick the best looking sites and transfer a few to my old plates with no growth.

Maybe i'll have enough to make up some new grain jars and drop some agar in them before i leave next week


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26521955 - 03/07/20 11:54 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Still nothing showing in my jars except the one i dropped a cutting into last week ... not sure how long to give them before i just drop my new agar into them and forget about the other strain....

Fun fact, turned out these plates were repacked from sterile packs so how sterile are they? well around 4 visually contaminated without being used a few weeks after pouring, and i still have plates without contam a month later...soo i duno?

Plate 1 is a huge spoogerino of spores onto agar because (reasons)

I took 4 transfers, 2 plates dropped to floor but didn't open.. one heavily contam XD

Theres 2 completely clean plates and others where clean transfers could be done. Wish i had some of that rhizo growth on em... maybe i can still snag it from the #1 tray where its hanging off the lid .. its the dish thats been opened for the longest time as well but looks pretty clean




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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26525255 - 03/09/20 11:51 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Dear diary, Noticed my jar i dropped some agar into from plate 1 has some green contam :frown: The side growth looked really good so im sad.

Pretty much given up on my starter jars at this point ...

Took 5 more cuttings from my 2 cleanest plates, 3 went to my new HG containers 2 went to my older petri. Also dropped 4 wedges. 2 went into new grain jar, 2 went into old ones.

Heres a pic of my grow cab so far



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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26526442 - 03/10/20 02:12 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

What do you utilize for your cabinet?


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: Mykology]
    #26530781 - 03/12/20 01:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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What do you utilize for your cabinet?




Not sure what you mean, just have it near a heater and have a clip on light. will probably be fruiting in a closet, not too much space in there


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26531584 - 03/12/20 09:20 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Need some more shelf’s! :stoned:

Small tight grows are bad ass.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26531945 - 03/13/20 02:12 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Was it easy to isolate contam from mycelium?


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: Mykology]
    #26532690 - 03/13/20 03:02 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Need some more shelf’s! :stoned:

Small tight grows are bad ass.




Yea there is something nice about a tight box getting stuffd with mushrooms . i could probably put some led strips in the door and stack boxes. looks like i might fit a 4 stack  on the top shelf, could do my agar work in the middle and have another 3 or 4 below it. currently have a keg there as it was my brew cab where i fermented a bunch of gallon batches.

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Was it easy to isolate contam from mycelium?




Surprisingly so. I only did SAB work in my kitchen 1 time with those jars. After that i moved it to the basement on a small folding table.
There is some minor surface mold on some things down there but nothing serious. Been doing all my work down there since. If you have cats (me 4) you know how annoying they can be when ever they see you doing 'SOMETHING' have this sixth sense for knowing you don't want them fucking with it and they come over .. just to check it out 00_00 ha.

anyway... i think some just wait too long to transfer. those pics were taken after it got overgrown. Ive seen a lot of different contams. liquid red,yellow,whiteish. green and black molds. it just doesn't look to grow the same so if it looks like myc and growing into clean agar i cut.

I will have to take some more pics later, going to take a couple more transfers from these and drop the rest into my 6 old jars and 2 new.

Im keeping the contam jar around to watch the myc fight the tric contam. seems to have slowed down, but i also moved it away from the cfl and its been cooler in the room around 65-68.

I want some quicker growing stuff..., i finally read what 'pf classic' is: 'This classic strain is late to mature, and doesn't drop spores until the mushrooms are fully grown, making for clean cakes that can produce many flushes.'  maybe that means it will grow compact and fit in these shoe boxes with the lids on? great in the terms of a compact grow.

can't wait to see how these fruit, i'm way over the time i thought i could have a taste if i was lucky...ha...there was also a time i started off seeing 15 males and one female after 2-3 months so this is similar in that respect


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26537320 - 03/15/20 09:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Picked up some oats and made some new jars.
dropped wedges in remaining 5 old jars & 2 new oat
Playing around with the holes/sizing on my jar lids and 1 or 2 layers of micro tape(maybe doesnt work so well after it goes through PC so add another on top)

Couple pics of recent transfers and new HG container. Having some trouble getting the cutting to come off onto new plate, maybe caused 1 contam.
Tapped on the jar edge to get pieces off, hopefully not a problem.

One pic of a recent drop and hopefully clean jar of spawn. 

Not sure what to do with the old plates yet.



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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26591268 - 04/10/20 04:51 PM (1 year, 30 days ago)

Well, its been awhile. slow going, started some new jars with grain.

Most of my old jars that i tried to re innoc with agar have slight contams, a couple that were mix of barley & verm look clean.

I'm wondering if its ever possible to save a jar like this by scooping the contam out? better to wait or do it right away?




Looking carefully at my new jars for contam, but they seem good.




Any idea what this is? kinda looks like sap...interesting contam



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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26617685 - 04/21/20 02:36 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

It seems like the oats are a lot quicker, jars shown both had agar added same day.




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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26657468 - 05/08/20 03:25 PM (1 year, 2 days ago)

Here's some updates.

My first 2 jars were fruiting on the sides so i cut them out and placed them in a shoebox on foil with moist verm.

The pieces that came out solid are fruiting again already. the one that fell apart may take longer, i wonder if ill be able to dunk these or if this will all contam...

  I dub thee ' Shoe cannon fruiting chamber'






Also a pic of all my jars, all appear 100% contam free.
I've put my last 2 agar transfers in the fridge to slow them down.
I think i have enough spawn built up here for awhile.

These jars will get mixed with coir, I will be doing the barley and oats separately in their own shoe-boxes. I'm thinking i might try 1 jar of spawn and 2 jars of spawn (roughly 25% vs 50% spawn). It will be interesting to compare these 4 different variations in my first grows and hopefully one will stand out.



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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26665271 - 05/11/20 09:38 PM (11 months, 23 days ago)

Picked a few this morning and a few tonight for a total of 16 grams wet.
(not all in picture)

Started misting the cakes. Fun watching these grow so quick





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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26669286 - 05/13/20 09:43 PM (11 months, 21 days ago)

Seems like misting is what they need. some were growing out kind shriveled looking and 12hrs after misting they looked a lot fuller.

I had enough to eat 18 grams wet, right about the dosage i got many years ago dry (1.7)

I was expecting them to taste bad but they weren't at all. I've never like mushrooms but recently after getting into this hobby i decided i was going to try them again and found the babybell mushrooms tasted pretty good raw. These had a similar mushroom taste but there was a little bit of floral flavor. I ate roughly 10 or so caps and stems over the course of 5-10 minutes like a snack.
I started to feel them surprisingly quick, I had set my alarm for 30 minutes and it didn't go off yet :wink:

I'm guessing i was around level 1 or 2. Its been 10 years since i had any. I started taking lexapro a year ago for anxiety so not sure if it lessened the experience.  Basically just very happy, music was noticeably better. Had some what racing thoughts like what i should be doing or thinking about kept changing. Just looking at stuff on the computer, Then i noticed the text moving in areas.
Columns of organized listings started moving like gentle breathing and i did feel more connected with everything.

That was about it, lasted maybe 3 hours. I think i'm going to double my next dose. may take about a week at the rate these are growing.

Will probably start mixing a couple jars into coil next week.


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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26695205 - 05/25/20 05:26 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

got about 60g wet from my 'cakes' so far, may try soaking. I have just been spraying them and picking the couple shrooms that come up here and there.

Spawned my first shoetub last week and it looks like its growing pretty quick, maybe another week will have it fully colonized.
Spawned tub#2 yesterday, just decided to do 2 pint jars spawn /tub

I will mix one 50/50 oats and barley, the rest will be oats. I have about 12 jars getting ready.

Starting to reclaim some empty pint jars, not sure when i need to start making more spawn to keep a cycle going, maybe in a couple weeks along with some more agar



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Re: Looking for some guideance on my first grow [Re: Yumyumyumyum]
    #26784692 - 06/26/20 02:50 PM (10 months, 8 days ago)

Few pics of the tubs, too moist it seems.



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