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Hello from 13.50 min wage.
#26441023 - 01/19/20 12:40 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I live in Washington state. I just drew a parallel to the siege of leningrad. The cost of everything is going up here. I just bought a sandwich that was already expensive but that literally went up 2 bucks overnight at a fast food place. They're going to hit us hard where it hurts. The cost of food. My own mother is homeless kicked out of her home at a cost for her house being a rise in 300. Didn't ask if we'd pay just booted her to the street. This is happening to my sisters friends like clock work.
They don't give a fucking single fuck about any of us living in poverty. At least we could get by. I went and bought a jar of mayonaise. 5 fucking dollars so my sandwich wasn't dry. 30 dollars to feed myself for work. A powder keg is about to happen here in Washington. It's fucking nuts kicking single mothers to the street. Pricing them out of there own homes. Something big is going to happen with this wage hike. I wish I didn't have to pay rent or i'd go buy a gun.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho] 2
#26441033 - 01/19/20 12:49 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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FWIW, it feels like fucking everything is going up in price lately. Especially food and basic necessities. Even in my state where minimum wage is like 7 bucks an hour. Everything you list sounds about on par, if not a little less expensive in some of the more expensive areas surrounding me(in the Northeast) - which all have the same minimum wage, or similar. I think some neighboring states just enacted a 15/hour minimum wage, and I'm not really sure how things have gone for them. It was always more expensive there, than here, to begin with.
I am curious to see if there has been an marked economic impact due to minimum wage increases - like actual studies, and reports. Because, anecdotally, I think most of us who are middle class or lower are definitely feeling the pinch. I know people who are making six figures, but have the same lifestyle that I do at 40k, because they have families and have to pay like 30k a year in childcare.
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Raising the minimum wage has never been the issue. It's a smoke screen. Any person that works 40 hours a week should be able to provide better for there family. This hike in minimum wage is just a ploy by the rich to get the middle class and working poor fighting. I'm not going to fall for it. The place that I work deported all the mexicans but you know who trump allows in. Eastern europeans. that's where his bride is from so they are doing better. Serbs, Ukraine, etc.
There is no reason that sure i left my college education because i thought it was bullshit but i can build a house from the ground up that any of us should be living on the streets. I have friends that are living in grow tents because "that's the best we could do" Bullshit. That's lieing. I'm willing to fight. Once you involve my mother and kick her to the streets when i was subsidizing her place to live. So fucking what?
This is all planned by the top. We either push back or we don't. Live as indentured servents or don't. there is no other way to live.
Everything I know about you you are not poor. You have no idea what it means to be poor.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441044 - 01/19/20 01:06 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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There will be a quality of job factor. When I used to be able to get 2 employees for what I can only get 1 for now. Small business will feel that. Workload will be higher, inability to get everything done will get higher, and an employer’s ability to write you up will go higher. The ease of losing your shit fuck job will get higher. Stress will get higher.
I don’t know why more people don’t look around in other places and take note of how things progressed there. It’s a matter of time before some savvy businessman opens up a company that manufactures suicide nets for US companies....made in China of course. It’s this infected mind mentality, the world is not as it appears. Minds have been highjacked son...
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441045 - 01/19/20 01:06 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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So how do we push back? Is there any real, viable way to get cost of living down? Because I can't even survive without a roommate on my wage, and I'm in a relatively okay position(not great, but I can budget and save and I'm not balls deep in debt).
I really don't have the answers. I don't quite know how to push back, other than arguing for a reasonable living wage. It's a complicated issue, but I do think that recent tariffs have absolutely not helped(PBS citation).
But it's way beyond that. This is an issue that has started decades back - living wages have not kept up with the cost of interest, much less the rising costs of healthcare and student loans.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441048 - 01/19/20 01:09 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Remember the great depression?
To put this in perspective.. there were enough resources, man power etc that nobody had to starve. That whole issue could have been a slight bump in the road.... it never had to happen. But we’re slaves to this stupid game we play. They’re all self inflicted wounds.
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We sold out the country. Everyone cashed out and took the money and ran. Sustained living was never on the table. Just wait until the earth really tanks.... wars homegirl. Killing for bread.
One slight bump, and this whole thing goes down.
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#26441051 - 01/19/20 01:14 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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They thought that they were helping the working poor. No they're really hurting the middle class which i'm guessing most of you on this site are. The working poor might be as good as you oh no!? We're just trying to live to damn fuck. Sorry that you think that you're better then us. Because what you're more skilled? You're college educated? What exactly makes you think that your better than me?
Anybody that works 40 hours a week should be able to provide better for there family. The fundemantal problem that is wrong here is people who are better then me think they are. Yes you worked your ass off for your education but there are different levels of trying and we didn't have parents that payed for our education. I grew up working. That is literally all that I want is to provide better for my family. I have a gf and 2 cats. I don't think it's an absurd request. and i do a lot of hard work you don't have to. My hands are always swollen i'm beatten down to the bone. You are not worth more than me.
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#26441054 - 01/19/20 01:16 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Yeah. I've legitimately decided that if I have kids, they'll be adopted or fostered. The thought of the future terrifies me, and I can't justify bringing anyone into this world myself.
I feel like a low key crazy person for how tragic and pessimistic I feel watching my nieces and nephews run around, thinking about what they'll inherit. And no one gives a single solitary shit about it.
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pirate-blues said: So how do we push back? Is there any real, viable way to get cost of living down? Because I can't even survive without a roommate on my wage, and I'm in a relatively okay position(not great, but I can budget and save and I'm not balls deep in debt).
I really don't have the answers. I don't quite know how to push back, other than arguing for a reasonable living wage. It's a complicated issue, but I do think that recent tariffs have absolutely not helped(PBS citation).
But it's way beyond that. This is an issue that has started decades back - living wages have not kept up with the cost of interest, much less the rising costs of healthcare and student loans.
I dunno. There isn't anything that we can do and that's what frustrates me. Inflation is killing us and they just right in my face told me that it wasn't 2 dollars. bullshit i'm not stupid. i'm so fucking frustrated by this but what am i to do a working poor. I don't know. And you even being middle class sum it up perfectly, What the fuck are we to do when were being grifted, I wish i knew the answer but i don't. And that frustrates me.
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#26441063 - 01/19/20 01:33 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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The only way to push back is classified as terrorism. They took our right to push back away a long time ago. And we gave it up when things were going well. We are under there thumb and a lot of single mothers are going to be out on the street, That's all we can hope for is some judge will have some faith in human beings and topple the bullshit.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441065 - 01/19/20 01:38 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I think there are legislative ways to help the middle class, for sure.
The problem is that our federal government is so ineffective and divided that getting anything passed is a pipe dream at this point. I do think it is a systemic and complex issue and no one candidate will get in office and be able to fix everything.
Raising the taxes for billionaires and corporations, to take the burden off the middle class is a start, imo. The problem is that there's really nothing at this point to stop them from picking up and going elsewhere. The same thing happened with France recently. The wealthy people are simply picking up and going elsewhere.
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#26441066 - 01/19/20 01:42 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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There have been a lot of people that have pushed back against the system and they label them as terrorists now. the government won the right to kill us little by little. We never really stood a chance.
Yes we're not fighting up front, we are fighting for years of oppression, we aren't fighting anybody personally we're fighting the fucking establishment and it's rules. So how do we fight it? I dunno I i know that we could complain. I think it's a waste of time though. Even talking against the people that make the rules we'd be classified as terrorists you know that right? With 9/11 they changed the game that anyone that causes a ruckus can be tortured. we can wait til later to do that.
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Washington apparently is expensive. I spent a bit of time in Seattle. Had to call a guys bullshit when he was charging extra on Gatorade for a sugar tax. Like wtf, tax on sugar. Anyways, some of guys were asking me how cheap Texas was I pulled up listings for houses.. something like 150 grand for a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom, which I thought was expensive and they were all like wow! That's cheap. It's like 300,000 for something have that size in Washington..
Reguarless thou, society has it painted in our heads that we can make a living off like 10$ an type shit. Its bullshit. Let's quit pretending. That's not enough to pay rent and necessities and be comfortable. I was in a similar situation in Texas not being able to find decent work. Really lucky to be where I am right now.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Ogla]
#26441081 - 01/19/20 02:13 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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That's funny as fuck you got grifted over sugar. That is funny. You only pay what you owe plus tax. I'm from Alaska personally and I hate the by the way charge. shit drives me nuts. It's absurd. They're kicking all of us working poor out of our places to live. shit's about to get ugly.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Ogla]
#26441085 - 01/19/20 02:18 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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losfreddy said: Washington apparently is expensive. I spent a bit of time in Seattle. Had to call a guys bullshit when he was charging extra on Gatorade for a sugar tax. Like wtf, tax on sugar. Anyways, some of guys were asking me how cheap Texas was I pulled up listings for houses.. something like 150 grand for a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom, which I thought was expensive and they were all like wow! That's cheap. It's like 300,000 for something have that size in Washington..
Reguarless thou, society has it painted in our heads that we can make a living off like 10$ an type shit. Its bullshit. Let's quit pretending. That's not enough to pay rent and necessities and be comfortable. I was in a similar situation in Texas not being able to find decent work. Really lucky to be where I am right now.
The end of what you said. They brought in 100 serbs and other east europeans. taking the work away from us. i haven't worked in 6 days. they brought them in as it used to be mexicans but now that trump kicked them out it's eastern europeans. fuck i need to work i want to leave this town. i'm so sick of seeing the people that have money extort us.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441099 - 01/19/20 02:37 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Too many people make money off us, you can’t do shit. They don’t care about you they worship numbers.
They’re working on taking guns.... surprise, surprise, it’s not to make sure you’re safe. What is, and what could be, paint a very clear picture of just what all is going on here. It would behoove you average citizen to realize what the end game here is. Healthcare? Taxes? Property ownership? Constitutional rights? Means, nothing..
Just wait until the dollar collapses... are you aware of the game we play with currency? It means nothing, it’s backed by dick in hand. Resources are tanking, it’s not some magical endless supply. You can’t drink fuckin oil man. At this point it’s all just a race to the bottom, and the noose is getting a little tighter bit by bit...
Go argue about how bad the left is, or the right is, or transgender bathrooms, or how bad Trump is, or Bernie is.... just don’t pay attention to how day by day you’re getting buttfucked with no vaseline...metaphorically speaking.
Greed is fun isn’t it??
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#26441102 - 01/19/20 02:40 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I’m sure we’ll be fine.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
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Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
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#26441125 - 01/19/20 03:25 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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What's with all the negativity
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#26441130 - 01/19/20 03:55 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Gypsy Boy said: What's with all the negativity
Ay.
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#26441214 - 01/19/20 06:26 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Who the fuck makes minimum wage?
Sign me up for that maximum wage!
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Amanita86 said: Too many people make money off us, you can’t do shit. They don’t care about you they worship numbers.
They’re working on taking guns.... surprise, surprise, it’s not to make sure you’re safe. What is, and what could be, paint a very clear picture of just what all is going on here. It would behoove you average citizen to realize what the end game here is. Healthcare? Taxes? Property ownership? Constitutional rights? Means, nothing..
Just wait until the dollar collapses... are you aware of the game we play with currency? It means nothing, it’s backed by dick in hand. Resources are tanking, it’s not some magical endless supply. You can’t drink fuckin oil man. At this point it’s all just a race to the bottom, and the noose is getting a little tighter bit by bit...
Go argue about how bad the left is, or the right is, or transgender bathrooms, or how bad Trump is, or Bernie is.... just don’t pay attention to how day by day you’re getting buttfucked with no vaseline...metaphorically speaking.
Greed is fun isn’t it??
I love being personally greedy. There is nothing greater then a banker handing you 1000 dollars. Nothing more beautiful. I agree with everything you said here. They're taking our individual freedom one by one. The first to go is the working poor. What's left are people that don't know the value of a dollar. They will do whatever you say for comfort and to live like they do. I gaurantee it.
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#26441363 - 01/19/20 09:06 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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When they take away our right to live it won't matter if we own fire arms. Look at your local cops and how over funded they are. They are a legal gang that has nothing to do with enforcing the law. There is no reason a cop should be dressed like a soldier to hand out speeding tickets. Theyre kicking more people to the streets. Which means more drug addiction. The working poor are about to be priced out of there homes. Which means there children as well. This is not going to go well.
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#26441372 - 01/19/20 09:12 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Minimum wage is $7.25 in Pennsylvania. It hasn't been raised in 11 years (if I recall correctly).
That said, you can buy a decent house for $80k near Pittsburgh and the public transit while not without issues is good enough you can get to a job using it. So if you can find a job that's $13.50 an hour and are willing to have a roommate for a while, buying a house is reasonable.
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#26441375 - 01/19/20 09:12 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Right to live?
Ain't no right to live. You gotta earn that shit everyday. Get up and do it or lay down and die mutherfucker. No one is going to shovel food down your gullet and pump air into your lungs. You gotta do it yourself.
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If you want to live in a place like Washington or California you have to pay for it. Obviously you can't survive in those areas on min wage! Those jobs are for teenagers and people getting started in the working world. You're not supposed to work min wage jobs for the rest of your life! You need to move out of state and get some kind of skill. One of the loopholes into making good money is learning how to weld pipe. If I was you I Would go to a welding school and learn how to pass x-ray/ pipe welds tests. That will get you into a 5 year apprenticeship with the pipefitters union. After your 5 year apprenticeship you'll make the big bucks and live happily ever after ... You need to man up and get busy!!! Get a skill!!!!
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Ahab McBathsalts said: Right to live?
Ain't no right to live. You gotta earn that shit everyday. Get up and do it or lay down and die mutherfucker. No one is going to shovel food down your gullet and pump air into your lungs. You gotta do it yourself.
Possible for healthy people born into the right circumstances, not possible for millions of others.
If it weren't for the greed of the very few, we could easily support everyone's basic needs, and should.
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Ahab McBathsalts said: Right to live?
Ain't no right to live. You gotta earn that shit everyday. Get up and do it or lay down and die mutherfucker. No one is going to shovel food down your gullet and pump air into your lungs. You gotta do it yourself.
Exactly!!! Man the fu-k up!!!
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Ahab McBathsalts said: Right to live?
Ain't no right to live. You gotta earn that shit everyday. Get up and do it or lay down and die mutherfucker. No one is going to shovel food down your gullet and pump air into your lungs. You gotta do it yourself.
Exactly!!! Man the fu-k up!!!
Or use common sense and realize we're all one hit in the head (and countless other examples) away from being completely dependent
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Ahab McBathsalts said: Right to live?
Ain't no right to live. You gotta earn that shit everyday. Get up and do it or lay down and die mutherfucker. No one is going to shovel food down your gullet and pump air into your lungs. You gotta do it yourself.
Possible for healthy people born into the right circumstances, not possible for millions of others.
If it weren't for the greed of the very few, we could easily support everyone's basic needs, and should.
The poor have food stamps and free housing in the United states so dont pretend like it's hard to survive over here! Most homeless people are mentally ill. If you make under 100k a year then it's honestly stupid to be living in Washington. Placings like that are designed for the upper middle class..
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said: If you want to live in a place like Washington or California you have to pay for it. Obviously you can't survive in those areas on min wage! Those jobs are for teenagers and people getting started in the working world. You're not supposed to work min wage jobs for the rest of your life! You need to move out of state and get some kind of skill. One of the loopholes into making good money is learning how to weld pipe. If I was you I Would go to a welding school and learn how to pass x-ray/ pipe welds tests. That will get you into a 5 year apprenticeship with the pipefitters union. After your 5 year apprenticeship you'll make the big bucks and live happily ever after ... You need to man up and get busy!!! Get a skill!!!!
It's why i'm thinking about going to Michigan. I have a good friend there that says there's decent work. And there's cheap living. There's no reason to stay here anymore.
You say that but I just work that's it. I don't work in fast food or anything. I work until my hands are swollen 7 days a week 12 hours a day. Stock piling money to leave and hopefully it's better. I don't know if things will be better there but it will be new. And that's all I can hope for. I dropped out of college because I was a heroin addict. Top of my class and I threw away basically a free education. I'm not proud of it one bit. I could be sitting behind a desk getting paid half my worth. But I know i'm worth more. I just can't do another season of degrading work even if minimum wage is rising. were all being priced out of our homes.
The place i live now I kill atleast 1 cockroach a day and now I have bed bugs so i might as well burn everything I own it's not worth taking.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Shenmue]
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We already do support everyone's basic needs for the most part!!! You already have housing and food stamps! Now you're demanding free college and health care! What are you going to demand next a free car!!??? I mean what the fuck!!!!
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Shenmue]
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Ahab McBathsalts said: Right to live?
Ain't no right to live. You gotta earn that shit everyday. Get up and do it or lay down and die mutherfucker. No one is going to shovel food down your gullet and pump air into your lungs. You gotta do it yourself.
Possible for healthy people born into the right circumstances, not possible for millions of others.
If it weren't for the greed of the very few, we could easily support everyone's basic needs, and should.
The poor have food stamps and free housing in the United states so dont pretend like it's hard to survive over here! Most homeless people are mentally ill. If you make under 100k a year then it's honestly stupid to be living in Washington. Placings like that are designed for the upper middle class..
Uh I ended up here by chance I definitely didn't think that I needed to make 100k a year. That's ridiculous. So where should I live then if your the expert? Fucking arizona?
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Shenmue]
#26441421 - 01/19/20 09:48 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Shenmue said: We already do support everyone's basic needs for the most part!!! You already have housing and food stamps! Now you're demanding free college and health care! What are you going to demand next a free car!!??? I mean what the fuck!!!! 
I've gotten food stamps do you know what 100$ buys you. Not even close to surviving for a month. Maybe 3-4 days. Shit just to properly season your food that's 100$ bill right there. I'm literally starving all the time and there going to take that 100$ because I make too much money now. I think every single person should have a 200$ food stamp allowance. There is no reason that anybody should go hungry in this first world country.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
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Anybody that believes that food stamps is a solve-all has never been poor. It's a shame that people are so callous to the poor in the USA.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Shenmue]
#26441430 - 01/19/20 09:54 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Shenmue said: We already do support everyone's basic needs for the most part!!! You already have housing and food stamps! Now you're demanding free college and health care! What are you going to demand next a free car!!??? I mean what the fuck!!!! 
Volunteer at a shelter or a SNAP program and ask about how effective the current service model is. A part of my current job is finding free housing for people who are mentally disabled and can't work, and the wait time can be years. Even the local shelters have a daily lottery for beds, most who apply for a bed end up sleeping outside.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: christopera]
#26441439 - 01/19/20 09:58 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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christopera said: Anybody that believes that food stamps is a solve-all has never been poor. It's a shame that people are so callous to the poor in the USA.
Fucking thank you. It's literally nothing. you must not be from here it's honestly horrible.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: feevers] 1
#26441440 - 01/19/20 09:58 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20+ an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441442 - 01/19/20 09:59 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Unless you're born rich success comes from suffering. You need to get busy and embrace the suck!! Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get moving!!! The public shouldn't have to pay for your food and housing dont you understand that!! Its not like you have a right to free shit. What kind of dream world are you living in? I personally know people that survive off of the government and so does everyone else so who are you trying to bullshit? Obviously you can't survive on foodstaps in the state of Washington lmao. You throw away free college to heroin and you think you deserve a free living!!??? No you fucked up and that has consequences!! You need to get the fuck out of Washington and get a skill. It's going to take 5 or 6 years of suffering to make a decent living so you best get started now and get it over with!!!
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: feevers]
#26441444 - 01/19/20 10:00 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Shenmue said: We already do support everyone's basic needs for the most part!!! You already have housing and food stamps! Now you're demanding free college and health care! What are you going to demand next a free car!!??? I mean what the fuck!!!! 
Volunteer at a shelter or a SNAP program and ask about how effective the current service model is. A part of my current job is finding free housing for people who are mentally disabled and can't work, and the wait time can be years. Even the local shelters have a daily lottery for beds, most who apply for a bed end up sleeping outside.
Thank you as well for your service. I'm just trying to get the middle class riled up about this. I don't expect you to let people into your homes but this is happening wether you feel it or not. Single mothers with kids are being kicked to the streets. It's something to think about at the very least.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26441449 - 01/19/20 10:03 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20+ an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
Yeah, but you have to live in Milwaukee.
Just kidding, Milwaukee is pretty sweet. I've had a good time partying up there a few times.
Unions are a great option. My company hires all union and a lot of guys make more than me, and I have a Master's degree. They are also free from college debt, unlike me. Of course their bodies will be ruined by age 50, but that's the trade off I suppose.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26441454 - 01/19/20 10:07 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20+ an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
Exactly!!!
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26441455 - 01/19/20 10:07 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20 an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20+ an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
Is that so? Never heard of it. I just want to provide better for my family that's all. I have a gf and 2 cats that she loves. That's all that i want is to provide my family better. I work until my hands are swollen and my back hurts so much that I won't complain. My resume is actually stacked with any kind of work that people need. I can build a house from the ground up. etc etc. I think it would be nice to have a bit of a rest but I know that isn't how the world works. So my wife doesn't have to i'll do most of the heavy lifting. that's fine.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: christopera]
#26441460 - 01/19/20 10:10 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20+ an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
Yeah, but you have to live in Milwaukee.
Just kidding, Milwaukee is pretty sweet. I've had a good time partying up there a few times.
Unions are a great option. My company hires all union and a lot of guys make more than me, and I have a Master's degree. They are also free from college debt, unlike me. Of course their bodies will be ruined by age 50, but that's the trade off I suppose.
Hehe I have a sister that got a masters degree. I honestly have no clue what for and her and her wife both got one. I have no idea how they make money but they bought a house in ohio so I honestly have no clue what they're doing. My sisters smart and has traveled the world and speaks 5 languages fluently so it's anyones guess what the fuck she's doing. I could probably just ask her actually
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho] 1
#26441489 - 01/19/20 10:36 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20 an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20+ an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
Is that so? Never heard of it. I just want to provide better for my family that's all. I have a gf and 2 cats that she loves. That's all that i want is to provide my family better. I work until my hands are swollen and my back hurts so much that I won't complain. My resume is actually stacked with any kind of work that people need. I can build a house from the ground up. etc etc. I think it would be nice to have a bit of a rest but I know that isn't how the world works. So my wife doesn't have to i'll do most of the heavy lifting. that's fine.
Near pretty much every major airport there's business parks around and jobs a plenty even for unskilled people starting at above 15 and likely above 20
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#26441586 - 01/19/20 12:04 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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You could start by not buying your sandwiches at a fast-food place.
The money you spend there could probably buy you a weeks worth of sandwiches with something to put on them at a convenience store
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Tripsurfer] 2
#26441700 - 01/19/20 01:19 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Shhh... Those are rich people secrets. We can't be letting those getting out. You'll kill the payday loan industry with that kind of info!
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: christopera] 1
#26441718 - 01/19/20 01:29 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20+ an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
Yeah, but you have to live in Milwaukee.
Just kidding, Milwaukee is pretty sweet. I've had a good time partying up there a few times.
Unions are a great option. My company hires all union and a lot of guys make more than me, and I have a Master's degree. They are also free from college debt, unlike me. Of course their bodies will be ruined by age 50, but that's the trade off I suppose.
I have a union job and I make almost $40 an hour. I didn't waste 4 years of my life and a hundred grand to get a worthless piece of paper that won't actually help get a better job.
Union jobs are the way to go for sure. I make more money that most people with college degrees and I get outstanding benefits and job protection. Free lawyer, free insurance (health, dental, vision, prescription), guaranteed working conditions and hours. My total compensation package is around $145,000 a year and all I did was join the union, I advise anyone else to do the same. There are a lot of good union jobs out there!
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: FruitOfLife]
#26441743 - 01/19/20 01:53 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Union of Professional Package Handlers?
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Gypsy Boy] 2
#26441763 - 01/19/20 02:03 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Gypsy Boy said: What's with all the negativity
It's a magic mushroom forum. Did you want stable personalities?
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Tripsurfer said: Union of Professional Package Handlers?
I cannot confirm nor deny the legitimacy of that claim. But I have heard that there is a company that involves the delivery of parcels that has very good pay and benefits once you put some time in.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho] 1
#26441912 - 01/19/20 04:09 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Anybody that works 40 hours a week should be able to provide better for there family. The fundemantal problem that is wrong here is people who are better then me think they are. Yes you worked your ass off for your education but there are different levels of trying and we didn't have parents that payed for our education. I grew up working. That is literally all that I want is to provide better for my family. I have a gf and 2 cats. I don't think it's an absurd request. and i do a lot of hard work you don't have to. My hands are always swollen i'm beatten down to the bone. You are not worth more than me.
*Their *paid *beaten *fundamental
I don't want to kick you when you are down but come on. I can't hire someone who would send out an email and use "there" like that. Ideally you should be higher on the potential list than some immigrant, but you haven't even got the advantage of being a native English speaker. Read more books.
Do you want a high minimum wage or cheap fast food? You can only have one. People in poverty shouldn't be eating fast food, if you are homeless with no stove okay, but working poor? Most people have stupid avoidable expenses, like a car when they can take a bus, a huge data plan when they could just use free wi fi spots or 8 dollar sandwiches. This isn't exactly the great depression. Seattle has joined the ranks of NYC and San Fran as places only rich people can live. You choice is lots of roommates or work a 2nd job. Or move. Or get a better job.
It's a nice Sunday afternoon and I'm at work so the degree to which I sympathize with people complaining about 40 hours a week not paying the bills is low.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: viraldrome]
#26442022 - 01/19/20 05:17 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I think we need to set a minimum wage slightly higher than right now federally (I would shoot closer to $11 p/h instead of $15), bind it to rise with the rate of inflation indefinitely, and deal with the cost fluctuations afterwards for as long as they take to stabilize. That would only be difficult to deal with for a short time (and not really in the grand scheme of things), and $7.25 is too low a federal minimum wage.
I was making about $7.00 p/h in 2008, after taxes that was about $800 a month. That was doable in 2008, but still kind of sucky. It's not realistically doable 12 years later, there is roughly 20% difference in purchasing power since that time (and much more than 20% if we include housing costs).
I do agree with the sentiment that you need to learn skills which get you competitive pay. I also agree with the sentiment that people not making much are often blowing through money on shit that makes them broke-er. But, $7.25 is indeed too low and is really only cushioned by the job market being good and requiring workers elsewhere, making it easy for people in minimum wage positions to fly the coup.
$11.00 per hour in today's money, adjusted for inflation indefinitely, is a livable wage at 40 hours per week for someone with no skills to differentiate themselves into a higher paying job, and is completely livable at 50 hours per week which is what most skilled workers end up working on salary.
If fast food companies and grocery stores are financially unable to provide around $11 (which the vast majority of are offering to entry level workers now), their business model relies too heavily on sub-livable wages and they need to modernize, and automate what cannot be worked into the budget.
The vast majority of restaurant businesses that pay minimum wage are able to pay much more though. Labor costs when I was a manager at a fast food chain (2011ish) were under 15% of overall inflow pretty consistently. Fast food businesses would not drastically raise their prices if it deters customers, but if there is a consistent demand they will every time. Grocery stores nowadays typically pay well over the minimum wage themselves.
Taco Bell in my area is hiring 18 year olds at $12 p/h and offering general managers $100K salaries. Because the money is there and the job market where I'm at is too competitive for businesses that offer shit wages.
If a business can't compete with $9 or $10 p/h in today's money, they don't really have a strong foundation to begin with and need to look for ways to downsize staff and become more efficient.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: chibiabos] 1
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Gypsy Boy said: What's with all the negativity
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: BayerPhi]
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Money is cheap right now, see the Fed's current QE... I mean "repo" going on behind the scenes. Y'all mite want sum of dem der Bytecoins, or Gold if you're old fashioned.
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20+ an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
I live in Milwaukee the companies around here are begging to hire people for 23/hr there's fucking signs all over.
Yeah, but you have to live in Milwaukee.
Just kidding, Milwaukee is pretty sweet. I've had a good time partying up there a few times.
Unions are a great option. My company hires all union and a lot of guys make more than me, and I have a Master's degree. They are also free from college debt, unlike me. Of course their bodies will be ruined by age 50, but that's the trade off I suppose.
I have a union job and I make almost $40 an hour. I didn't waste 4 years of my life and a hundred grand to get a worthless piece of paper that won't actually help get a better job.
Union jobs are the way to go for sure. I make more money that most people with college degrees and I get outstanding benefits and job protection. Free lawyer, free insurance (health, dental, vision, prescription), guaranteed working conditions and hours. My total compensation package is around $145,000 a year and all I did was join the union, I advise anyone else to do the same. There are a lot of good union jobs out there!
I used to be union. It was definitely worth the 40 bucks a month or whatever for my dues. I had a boss literally rip me apart I was crying when I really didn't do anything wrong, The people in my union told me you literally have rights as a union worker. Do not ever let that person talk to you like that again. Call in a union rep. So next time the guy tried to grill me like that again that's what I did and it was the funniest thing i've ever seen. The dude damn near shit himself. While my union rep fucking demolished him.
You can't talk to him like that this is out of line and your incredibly out of line. Man I miss being a union worker. I'm actually going to get into trade school as i can build a house from the ground up I might as well make it official. That'll be easy compared to useless college paper. I couldn't believe when I went to college like are you serious? I'm doing 9th grade math and writing fucking papers like I was in high school? This is what we use to train young adults? What a waste of time. This has nothing to do with actual work what in the fuck?
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: viraldrome]
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viraldrome said: Do you want a high minimum wage or cheap fast food? You can only have one. People in poverty shouldn't be eating fast food, if you are homeless with no stove okay, but working poor? Most people have stupid avoidable expenses, like a car when they can take a bus, a huge data plan when they could just use free wi fi spots or 8 dollar sandwiches. This isn't exactly the great depression. Seattle has joined the ranks of NYC and San Fran as places only rich people can live. You choice is lots of roommates or work a 2nd job. Or move. Or get a better job.
It's a nice Sunday afternoon and I'm at work so the degree to which I sympathize with people complaining about 40 hours a week not paying the bills is low.

Nope we work every waking moment and eat nothing but beans and rice, oh and tears. And we dont have cable or internet etc. I love when the well paid say shit like this. Lucky you. LUCKY indeed.
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viraldrome said: Do you want a high minimum wage or cheap fast food? You can only have one. People in poverty shouldn't be eating fast food, if you are homeless with no stove okay, but working poor? Most people have stupid avoidable expenses, like a car when they can take a bus, a huge data plan when they could just use free wi fi spots or 8 dollar sandwiches. This isn't exactly the great depression. Seattle has joined the ranks of NYC and San Fran as places only rich people can live. You choice is lots of roommates or work a 2nd job. Or move. Or get a better job.
It's a nice Sunday afternoon and I'm at work so the degree to which I sympathize with people complaining about 40 hours a week not paying the bills is low.

Nope we work every waking moment and eat nothing but beans and rice, oh and tears. And we dont have cable or internet etc. I love when the well paid say shit like this. Lucky you. LUCKY indeed.
No shit right? 80% of my wage goes to paying my rent. And the place has fucking cockroaches that I don't have any extra money to do anything about. The landlord doesn't care though. I just found out that cockroaches bite so fucking just lovely.
I fucking Hate the well off. Never fucking struggled a day in there lives. And they love to look down on us because it makes them feel better about themselves. Were just people trying to steal from them is what they think. That's so far from the truth that's what makes them look dumb. It'd be nice if my parents left me something to get my life started but the didn't. I'm actually subsidizing my wage to help out my mom because I don't want her living on the street. Laugh all you want but this isn't a fucking joke. I'm not laughing.
Reading that post so what? I'm never supposed to treat myself out to eat? Literally anything I should do should be to save money? What the fuck are you even trying to say. Your describing fucking slavery. So I should just toil away and never enjoy myself for the benefit of you?
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
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I think the fact that there are many rich people in the USA makes people on the outside think we are so well off from the outside. The truth is most of us are a single paycheck away from losing everything. Or if something happens to your health so you cant work? Your 2 choices are homeless or die
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
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You can use the money you save to get ahead... I haven’t eaten anything but something from a grocery store for over a year. Obviously there were a handful of exceptions but I would usually just get the cheapest thing I could and it was some unavoidable occasion. I do think it sucks having no heat and boiling eggs to survive though so I feel you
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I'm sorry I bought what was supposed to be like 8 dollars but a 10 dollar meal because i was tired and hungry. My fucking bad. Hang me in the streets for thinking that after all my hard work I can buy a mediocre sandwich that I like. Alright to get ahead i'm just never going to spend a cent again. My fucking mistake for not wanting to cook and thinking I deserved a treat. My bad.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: ichugwindex]
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ichugwindex said: I think the fact that there are many rich people in the USA makes people on the outside think we are so well off from the outside. The truth is most of us are a single paycheck away from losing everything. Or if something happens to your health so you cant work? Your 2 choices are homeless or die
Exactly. I'm behind this months rent. My check coming in covers my rent with probably 100 dollars to spare. My work brought in 100 eastern europeans and we haven't worked in a week. I'm this close to losing everything and being out on the street. Fuck man. I'm literally going to be homeless that fucking sucks.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
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I'm sorry that's happening Enjoywho. If I was in a position to help I would. Are you able to transfer to an area where positions are still good?
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
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Ever since I got layed off at my hotel job I've been so fucking stressed. Washington is a right to work state so they can fire you for any reason. Fuck it's the first thing I think about and the last thing before I go to bed. How in the fuck am I going to pay rent. God I looked at mtyself in the mirror today and I look like fucking shit. I look 10 years older i'm so fucking stressed.
I miss one payment and i'm fucking on the streets in the pissing down rain cold of Washington. There hasn't been work in a week so this is my reality. I'm going to need to subsidize my wage with the gf's and live together again. It's my only option really. Or live on the street. Which is fucking stupid that's my only other option.
A lot of this site is middle class or higher. They have no idea the reality of what it's actually like. If they don't work us I can't get unemployment and I lose my house. That's the reality of my situation.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: ichugwindex]
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ichugwindex said: I'm sorry that's happening Enjoywho. If I was in a position to help I would. Are you able to transfer to an area where positions are still good?
I'm not looking for charity I will figure it out. I'm just so scared. I'm terrified all the time. I have 30 days every month to not be homeless. What a fucking shitty conncept. I haven't done anything fun or partied or really done anything in so long. That's what I live by. I have 30 days until I have to be out on the street.
My birthdays in 2 days but I almost forgot about it. I'm apparently not going to work so i'm going to lose my home.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26442205 - 01/19/20 07:26 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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That's all i'm trying to say. It's terrifying being working poor. I payed an entire months worth of wages just to have a roof over my head. Every dollar I had just to house myself and my gf and our 2 cats. I have't been to a concert in a decade or done anything fun since I moved down here to Washington. I literally do not have a dollar to spare. I would love to do fun stuff but I do not have a dollar to my name. Every cent goes into housing and people just don't understand. The whole purpose of this thread is to just get people talking. Fuck that's all i want.
A lot of us are one injury or paycheck away from losing everything and being on the street. Do you know what that feels like? God it's horrible. I hate that. Why i'll go to work and cough over everything I don't care. I have to make rent.
First thing i think about when I wake up last thing before I sleep. How in the fuck am I going to make rent. Got what a shitty way to live. I've contemplated suicide a few times but I could never leave my wife like that.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26442217 - 01/19/20 07:33 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Have you heard of Dave Ramsey and his no-nonsense approach to personal finance?
You don't have to like all his opinions, but if follow his shit it is an easy roadmap to get your head above water.
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So never spend money. Hmm that's damn near impossible when a trip to the grocery store costs 100$ for not even the basic necessities. That's so dumb its ridiculous. So don't spend money. Uhh what? It's kind of hard. So don't do anything. what a joke. Coming from someone who is rich i'm not impressed.
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A big fucking bag of rice is like $8.
How much you spending on liquor and drugs?
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said: If you live anywhere near almost any city in the entire country there's still plenty of entry level blue collar jobs starting at 20+ an hour. Most people can't hack it at a place that pays an honest days wage for an honest days work though.
While I definitely sympathize with those struggling, this is the other part of the two-way street people love to brush under the rug.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26443061 - 01/20/20 12:06 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Gotta lose the cats man. You dont need those expenses.
Also what Ahab says. Buy bulk rice and beans and whatnot. Asante has great recipes on getting everything congealed together nicely.
When I was in University I cooked a huge pan of rice with green beans and some omelette and sambal every sunday and ate that for 5 nights a week. Thats like a dollar a meal. Cheapass oatmeal for breakfast and peanutbutter sandwhiches for lunch. It wasnt always nice but something you can overcome in time.
Look for an Asian supermarket, they always have great deals on bulk foods that you can keep forever.
I make €70.000 a year and I still dont buy premade sandwhiches because they are such a ripoff.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26443078 - 01/20/20 12:19 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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cats cost next to nothing once you get 'em fixed and poked full of shots. after that its like $20/month in food if you buy the good shit or half that for friskies or whatever.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: ballsalsa]
#26443081 - 01/20/20 12:23 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Like Im saying, expenses you dont need.
That like two fancy sandwhiches right there
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#26443091 - 01/20/20 12:28 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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I can hustle for the 20.
I am one of the worst sandwich offenders, I do have to admit. I've worked from the road for most of my life and spent much of that time eating shitty, overpriced, fast food for lunches rather than make my own like a smart poor person.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: ballsalsa]
#26443362 - 01/20/20 03:29 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Eat the cats..
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Amanita86]
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pigs are a better food investment as far as pets go
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: ballsalsa]
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Rabbits are better.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Shenmue]
#26443692 - 01/20/20 06:57 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Lol. Who'da thought the guy you base your entire online persona on is a fuckin retard.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: deucedbi9]
#26443787 - 01/20/20 07:57 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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You are entitled to a sandwich or happy meal. You are also entitled to being ten dollars poorer every time you buy a happy meal. It works like that.
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My birthday is today. This is what my mom gave me. At least she tried. My dad was in town yesterday and didn't even bother to see me.
I love my mother she's living out of her car right now and looks sicker then a dog. I think she needs to go get checked out at the doctor's she looks ill. It's literally a couple dollars worth of stuff I feel bad because I literally just ate haha.
These are the gifts I get every year for holidays. I own about a dozen pairs of pajama pants and a fuckload of socks. I feel much better now that my ma came and visited me.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26444769 - 01/21/20 12:21 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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Happy birthday!
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Happy birthday. Hang in there. My dad is similarly broke and unhealthy. I got him signed up for medi-cal. I would suggest looking into whatever medicaid option is available in your area
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26444823 - 01/21/20 01:01 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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I'll reply after reading the 1st page. CORPORATE GREED/GREED IS KILLING THE PLANET!!! They WILL NOT take less so others can have some, period. Even though they can still make billions upon billions, they WILL NOT take less.
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Happy B day! You have to move somewhere else. I suggest fort worth texas or somewhere like it. If you're a carpenter/roofer/builder guy there is probably plenty of works due to them building places for the influx of people moving there from cali. I would say denver but it's really expensive here too, unless you commute.
This is solid advice even though you may not want to hear it.
Gotta lose the cats man. You dont need those expenses.
Also what Ahab says. Buy bulk rice and beans and whatnot. Asante has great recipes on getting everything congealed together nicely.
When I was in University I cooked a huge pan of rice with green beans and some omelette and sambal every sunday and ate that for 5 nights a week. Thats like a dollar a meal. Cheapass oatmeal for breakfast and peanutbutter sandwhiches for lunch. It wasnt always nice but something you can overcome in time.
Look for an Asian supermarket, they always have great deals on bulk foods that you can keep forever.
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Also what Ahab says. Buy bulk rice and beans and whatnot. Asante has great recipes on getting everything congealed together nicely.
cuisine man, fucking CUISINE.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Asante]
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Shit sucks but it also sounds like you need to manage what money you do have better. $30 on lunch for work? Why pay premium for a sandwich if you can't as them to put mayo on it? if you're buying the mayo just make your own sandwich. Sorry you had some deeper meaning but i can't get by that sandwich that jumped up in price
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OP I feel ya
Hang in there
I used to be a bum mon, for a while at least
It will improve, bro
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26452718 - 01/25/20 11:25 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Hehe thank you guys I didn't expect so many people here to wish me a happy birthday. More just telling me i'm a piece of shit for having a 10 dollar sandwich lol. Thanks guys I really appreciate it.
I'm fucking stressed out but it looks like the weather is finally clearing up so hopefully boats can start going out again so i can make some fucking money and not be poor.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho] 1
#26452722 - 01/25/20 11:29 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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U wouldn’t be so stressed if you stopped buying sandwiches
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tyrannicalrex said: Happy B day! You have to move somewhere else. I suggest fort worth texas or somewhere like it. If you're a carpenter/roofer/builder guy there is probably plenty of works due to them building places for the influx of people moving there from cali. I would say denver but it's really expensive here too, unless you commute.
This is solid advice even though you may not want to hear it.
Gotta lose the cats man. You dont need those expenses.
Also what Ahab says. Buy bulk rice and beans and whatnot. Asante has great recipes on getting everything congealed together nicely.
When I was in University I cooked a huge pan of rice with green beans and some omelette and sambal every sunday and ate that for 5 nights a week. Thats like a dollar a meal. Cheapass oatmeal for breakfast and peanutbutter sandwhiches for lunch. It wasnt always nice but something you can overcome in time.
Look for an Asian supermarket, they always have great deals on bulk foods that you can keep forever.
We don't have fridges deep enough to fucking do all that. My gf would get rid of me before she got rid of her cats. I know they're an expense. I just can't believe people on this website think that we're fucking wasting money. Like we want to be poor. Once maybe twice a month we actually have a little bit of money and we go to my favorite restaurant which is 30$ and hers which is random but it's around the same price. That's what america thinks oh you have food stamps you must be out buying steak and lobster. no we just like to eat out once a month and then we figure out out for the rest of the month. We're trying not to starve.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26452729 - 01/25/20 11:38 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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From the time I wake up til the time I fall asleep i've been so stressed about rent for the past 2 months and counting. I haven't even thought about something fun to do because that would not be something i can do. I'm so fucking stressed it's all i think about. fuck it's actually driving my normal ok attitude into i don't know what the fuck i'm going to do desperation stress mode. fuck.
It's why i just don't want to post on this site anymore i'm in fucking desperation mode and i don't have time for this site.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26453029 - 01/26/20 06:59 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Google heat treat facilities near me. Go there apply for job make 20-25/hr first day
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26453420 - 01/26/20 12:01 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Kinda feels like you are purposely trying not to get the point
Be stressed out and spend what little you have on worthless crap
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26453539 - 01/26/20 01:17 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: Kinda feels like you are purposely trying not to get the point
Be stressed out and spend what little you have on worthless crap 
I wouldn't really consider me eating worthless but ok.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26453618 - 01/26/20 02:05 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Enjoywho said:
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Tripsurfer said: Kinda feels like you are purposely trying not to get the point
Be stressed out and spend what little you have on worthless crap 
I wouldn't really consider me eating worthless but ok.
Just think about it though
With that $4 you spend making a cheap sandwhich yourself instead of buying one you really enjoy, you can pay 4 whole hours worth of rent!
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: feevers]
#26455006 - 01/27/20 11:30 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Yeah and he only eats out once or twice a month. He so poor
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26455036 - 01/27/20 11:55 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Poor people should really try not to eat at all.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: mycosis]
#26455168 - 01/27/20 01:11 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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I tried that but it turns out that i need 1 meal/day to function as a productive working unit.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: ballsalsa]
#26455173 - 01/27/20 01:13 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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An old meth head once told me if you don't eat you don't poop and if you don't poop you die.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: mycosis]
#26455175 - 01/27/20 01:15 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Sage wisdom
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: mycosis]
#26455176 - 01/27/20 01:15 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Or maybe find the optimum in price/quality until they can afford more. Just a suggestion, stupid I know
Why eat a week if you can spend it all in one night right?
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26455183 - 01/27/20 01:18 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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I try to spend my whole pay in a night whenever possible. Gambling is maybe the easiest way
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: ballsalsa]
#26455188 - 01/27/20 01:19 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Crypto for sure. Dont even have to leave the house
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26455189 - 01/27/20 01:20 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#26455297 - 01/27/20 02:14 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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ballsalsa said: I try to spend my whole pay in a night whenever possible. Gambling is maybe the easiest way
High end hookers and blow is more fun though.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: deucedbi9]
#26463751 - 02/01/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: Just fucking do it!!
Lol. Who'da thought the guy you base your entire online persona on is a fuckin retard.
Are you talking about the guy with millions and millions of dollars in the video? What the fuck have you done with your life? [Flame removed]
Edited by ballsalsa (02/02/20 08:13 AM)
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26463904 - 02/01/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: If you want to live in a place like Washington or California you have to pay for it. Obviously you can't survive in those areas on min wage! Those jobs are for teenagers and people getting started in the working world. You're not supposed to work min wage jobs for the rest of your life! You need to move out of state and get some kind of skill. One of the loopholes into making good money is learning how to weld pipe. If I was you I Would go to a welding school and learn how to pass x-ray/ pipe welds tests. That will get you into a 5 year apprenticeship with the pipefitters union. After your 5 year apprenticeship you'll make the big bucks and live happily ever after ... You need to man up and get busy!!! Get a skill!!!!
It's why i'm thinking about going to Michigan. I have a good friend there that says there's decent work. And there's cheap living. There's no reason to stay here anymore.
You say that but I just work that's it. I don't work in fast food or anything. I work until my hands are swollen 7 days a week 12 hours a day. Stock piling money to leave and hopefully it's better. I don't know if things will be better there but it will be new. And that's all I can hope for. I dropped out of college because I was a heroin addict. Top of my class and I threw away basically a free education. I'm not proud of it one bit. I could be sitting behind a desk getting paid half my worth. But I know i'm worth more. I just can't do another season of degrading work even if minimum wage is rising. were all being priced out of our homes.
The place i live now I kill atleast 1 cockroach a day and now I have bed bugs so i might as well burn everything I own it's not worth taking.
Where were you looking to go in Michigan?
I'm in Michigan and there's a lot of work here. Would you be interested in getting a CDL and driving truck?
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Shenmue]
#26464156 - 02/01/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: Just fucking do it!!
Lol. Who'da thought the guy you base your entire online persona on is a fuckin retard.
Are you talking about the guy with millions and millions of dollars in the video? What the fuck have you done with your life? Unless you're more successful than he is then you're the fucking retard. Stupid fuck..
Some equate wealth with worth. [flame removed]
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: deucedbi9]
#26464209 - 02/01/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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he's taking a break.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26464361 - 02/01/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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That was funny to me. Seeing how much they will pay in Seattle to start at McDonalds walking by it.
Soon they will be bussing in the servants to the rich in large cities despite the already long commutes it takes it one wants to work in downtown Seattle. Where even the middle class can't live there anymore.
They do that at resorts and places like Jackson Hole Wyoming and such. Slavery to a lesser extent basically. It will only get worse. Adjust, I did and it almost killed me sleeping a dog park one night overlooking where the Seahawks play. Then I thought, I don't want to die. When the ocean is moving in humidity wise and one cannot get warm.
Why at that time like 5 years ago, I thought, no, time to move. Seeing all the homeless there use to call it the 13th man and wanted to put a banner saying that over a highway overpass by the stadium. Felt like jumping off it once.
What can I say? They had a Subway employee have a rally for a living wage and a movement of sorts when I lived there. Great. Just saying, look for options to live out of there or San Fran, or Portland, or San Diego, or L.A. Pacific west. Unless you want to live with 5 other roomates.
To each their own. I gave up on it. On to the superbowl and dancing and watching the superbowl and singing at a dive bar in a small town in Utah. Whatever. Tired of trying to make it in big cities. Like I enjoy living here, is miserable but I get a break from it tomorrow.
Hope your fortunes turn around for you. Just do your research and make your decisions based on that and intuition. Just my experience of Seattle twice.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: ballsalsa]
#26464622 - 02/02/20 03:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: he's taking a break.
Ridiculous. 
You edit my post but leave the "fucking retard. Stupid fuck" comment in and ban the guy.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: deucedbi9]
#26464813 - 02/02/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hmm. Good point. I thought I edited that days ago
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: feevers]
#26465542 - 02/02/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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feevers said:
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Enjoywho said:
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Tripsurfer said: Kinda feels like you are purposely trying not to get the point
Be stressed out and spend what little you have on worthless crap 
I wouldn't really consider me eating worthless but ok.
Just think about it though
With that $4 you spend making a cheap sandwhich yourself instead of buying one you really enjoy, you can pay 4 whole hours worth of rent!

Uh no I went and bought sandwich stuff the other day. The meat itself is 4 dollars if it's on sale. Cheese is another story. Bread's a dollar. I would love to see you go to the store and buy meat cheese and bread for 4 dollars to make sandwiches. Don't even have to get the mayo which last time i bought it was 5 dollars.
Your so fucking full of shit it's ridiculous. 4$ for sandwich stuff you have me dieing of laughter.
Last time I went it was 5 dollars for meat on sale. 2.99. for cheese on sale. no mayo so 5 dollars on sale. 1.09 for bread. 2 dollars for a thing of spinach for crunch.
4$ i'm guessing you don't do your own shopping if you don't know what food costs lolol. probably just turned 18 and live at home
The little receipt told me I saved 50%. I was like fuck yes. I know how to shop. That isn't the issue. Everythings just going up in this state really hard core.
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Edited by Enjoywho (02/02/20 04:06 PM)
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