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Hello from 13.50 min wage.
#26441023 - 01/19/20 12:40 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I live in Washington state. I just drew a parallel to the siege of leningrad. The cost of everything is going up here. I just bought a sandwich that was already expensive but that literally went up 2 bucks overnight at a fast food place. They're going to hit us hard where it hurts. The cost of food. My own mother is homeless kicked out of her home at a cost for her house being a rise in 300. Didn't ask if we'd pay just booted her to the street. This is happening to my sisters friends like clock work.
They don't give a fucking single fuck about any of us living in poverty. At least we could get by. I went and bought a jar of mayonaise. 5 fucking dollars so my sandwich wasn't dry. 30 dollars to feed myself for work. A powder keg is about to happen here in Washington. It's fucking nuts kicking single mothers to the street. Pricing them out of there own homes. Something big is going to happen with this wage hike. I wish I didn't have to pay rent or i'd go buy a gun.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho] 2
#26441033 - 01/19/20 12:49 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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FWIW, it feels like fucking everything is going up in price lately. Especially food and basic necessities. Even in my state where minimum wage is like 7 bucks an hour. Everything you list sounds about on par, if not a little less expensive in some of the more expensive areas surrounding me(in the Northeast) - which all have the same minimum wage, or similar. I think some neighboring states just enacted a 15/hour minimum wage, and I'm not really sure how things have gone for them. It was always more expensive there, than here, to begin with.
I am curious to see if there has been an marked economic impact due to minimum wage increases - like actual studies, and reports. Because, anecdotally, I think most of us who are middle class or lower are definitely feeling the pinch. I know people who are making six figures, but have the same lifestyle that I do at 40k, because they have families and have to pay like 30k a year in childcare.
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Raising the minimum wage has never been the issue. It's a smoke screen. Any person that works 40 hours a week should be able to provide better for there family. This hike in minimum wage is just a ploy by the rich to get the middle class and working poor fighting. I'm not going to fall for it. The place that I work deported all the mexicans but you know who trump allows in. Eastern europeans. that's where his bride is from so they are doing better. Serbs, Ukraine, etc.
There is no reason that sure i left my college education because i thought it was bullshit but i can build a house from the ground up that any of us should be living on the streets. I have friends that are living in grow tents because "that's the best we could do" Bullshit. That's lieing. I'm willing to fight. Once you involve my mother and kick her to the streets when i was subsidizing her place to live. So fucking what?
This is all planned by the top. We either push back or we don't. Live as indentured servents or don't. there is no other way to live.
Everything I know about you you are not poor. You have no idea what it means to be poor.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441044 - 01/19/20 01:06 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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There will be a quality of job factor. When I used to be able to get 2 employees for what I can only get 1 for now. Small business will feel that. Workload will be higher, inability to get everything done will get higher, and an employer’s ability to write you up will go higher. The ease of losing your shit fuck job will get higher. Stress will get higher.
I don’t know why more people don’t look around in other places and take note of how things progressed there. It’s a matter of time before some savvy businessman opens up a company that manufactures suicide nets for US companies....made in China of course. It’s this infected mind mentality, the world is not as it appears. Minds have been highjacked son...
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441045 - 01/19/20 01:06 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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So how do we push back? Is there any real, viable way to get cost of living down? Because I can't even survive without a roommate on my wage, and I'm in a relatively okay position(not great, but I can budget and save and I'm not balls deep in debt).
I really don't have the answers. I don't quite know how to push back, other than arguing for a reasonable living wage. It's a complicated issue, but I do think that recent tariffs have absolutely not helped(PBS citation).
But it's way beyond that. This is an issue that has started decades back - living wages have not kept up with the cost of interest, much less the rising costs of healthcare and student loans.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441048 - 01/19/20 01:09 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Remember the great depression?
To put this in perspective.. there were enough resources, man power etc that nobody had to starve. That whole issue could have been a slight bump in the road.... it never had to happen. But we’re slaves to this stupid game we play. They’re all self inflicted wounds.
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We sold out the country. Everyone cashed out and took the money and ran. Sustained living was never on the table. Just wait until the earth really tanks.... wars homegirl. Killing for bread.
One slight bump, and this whole thing goes down.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho] 1
#26441051 - 01/19/20 01:14 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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They thought that they were helping the working poor. No they're really hurting the middle class which i'm guessing most of you on this site are. The working poor might be as good as you oh no!? We're just trying to live to damn fuck. Sorry that you think that you're better then us. Because what you're more skilled? You're college educated? What exactly makes you think that your better than me?
Anybody that works 40 hours a week should be able to provide better for there family. The fundemantal problem that is wrong here is people who are better then me think they are. Yes you worked your ass off for your education but there are different levels of trying and we didn't have parents that payed for our education. I grew up working. That is literally all that I want is to provide better for my family. I have a gf and 2 cats. I don't think it's an absurd request. and i do a lot of hard work you don't have to. My hands are always swollen i'm beatten down to the bone. You are not worth more than me.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Amanita86] 4
#26441054 - 01/19/20 01:16 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Yeah. I've legitimately decided that if I have kids, they'll be adopted or fostered. The thought of the future terrifies me, and I can't justify bringing anyone into this world myself.
I feel like a low key crazy person for how tragic and pessimistic I feel watching my nieces and nephews run around, thinking about what they'll inherit. And no one gives a single solitary shit about it.
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pirate-blues said: So how do we push back? Is there any real, viable way to get cost of living down? Because I can't even survive without a roommate on my wage, and I'm in a relatively okay position(not great, but I can budget and save and I'm not balls deep in debt).
I really don't have the answers. I don't quite know how to push back, other than arguing for a reasonable living wage. It's a complicated issue, but I do think that recent tariffs have absolutely not helped(PBS citation).
But it's way beyond that. This is an issue that has started decades back - living wages have not kept up with the cost of interest, much less the rising costs of healthcare and student loans.
I dunno. There isn't anything that we can do and that's what frustrates me. Inflation is killing us and they just right in my face told me that it wasn't 2 dollars. bullshit i'm not stupid. i'm so fucking frustrated by this but what am i to do a working poor. I don't know. And you even being middle class sum it up perfectly, What the fuck are we to do when were being grifted, I wish i knew the answer but i don't. And that frustrates me.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441063 - 01/19/20 01:33 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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The only way to push back is classified as terrorism. They took our right to push back away a long time ago. And we gave it up when things were going well. We are under there thumb and a lot of single mothers are going to be out on the street, That's all we can hope for is some judge will have some faith in human beings and topple the bullshit.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441065 - 01/19/20 01:38 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I think there are legislative ways to help the middle class, for sure.
The problem is that our federal government is so ineffective and divided that getting anything passed is a pipe dream at this point. I do think it is a systemic and complex issue and no one candidate will get in office and be able to fix everything.
Raising the taxes for billionaires and corporations, to take the burden off the middle class is a start, imo. The problem is that there's really nothing at this point to stop them from picking up and going elsewhere. The same thing happened with France recently. The wealthy people are simply picking up and going elsewhere.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441066 - 01/19/20 01:42 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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There have been a lot of people that have pushed back against the system and they label them as terrorists now. the government won the right to kill us little by little. We never really stood a chance.
Yes we're not fighting up front, we are fighting for years of oppression, we aren't fighting anybody personally we're fighting the fucking establishment and it's rules. So how do we fight it? I dunno I i know that we could complain. I think it's a waste of time though. Even talking against the people that make the rules we'd be classified as terrorists you know that right? With 9/11 they changed the game that anyone that causes a ruckus can be tortured. we can wait til later to do that.
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Washington apparently is expensive. I spent a bit of time in Seattle. Had to call a guys bullshit when he was charging extra on Gatorade for a sugar tax. Like wtf, tax on sugar. Anyways, some of guys were asking me how cheap Texas was I pulled up listings for houses.. something like 150 grand for a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom, which I thought was expensive and they were all like wow! That's cheap. It's like 300,000 for something have that size in Washington..
Reguarless thou, society has it painted in our heads that we can make a living off like 10$ an type shit. Its bullshit. Let's quit pretending. That's not enough to pay rent and necessities and be comfortable. I was in a similar situation in Texas not being able to find decent work. Really lucky to be where I am right now.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Ogla]
#26441081 - 01/19/20 02:13 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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That's funny as fuck you got grifted over sugar. That is funny. You only pay what you owe plus tax. I'm from Alaska personally and I hate the by the way charge. shit drives me nuts. It's absurd. They're kicking all of us working poor out of our places to live. shit's about to get ugly.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Ogla]
#26441085 - 01/19/20 02:18 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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losfreddy said: Washington apparently is expensive. I spent a bit of time in Seattle. Had to call a guys bullshit when he was charging extra on Gatorade for a sugar tax. Like wtf, tax on sugar. Anyways, some of guys were asking me how cheap Texas was I pulled up listings for houses.. something like 150 grand for a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom, which I thought was expensive and they were all like wow! That's cheap. It's like 300,000 for something have that size in Washington..
Reguarless thou, society has it painted in our heads that we can make a living off like 10$ an type shit. Its bullshit. Let's quit pretending. That's not enough to pay rent and necessities and be comfortable. I was in a similar situation in Texas not being able to find decent work. Really lucky to be where I am right now.
The end of what you said. They brought in 100 serbs and other east europeans. taking the work away from us. i haven't worked in 6 days. they brought them in as it used to be mexicans but now that trump kicked them out it's eastern europeans. fuck i need to work i want to leave this town. i'm so sick of seeing the people that have money extort us.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441099 - 01/19/20 02:37 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Too many people make money off us, you can’t do shit. They don’t care about you they worship numbers.
They’re working on taking guns.... surprise, surprise, it’s not to make sure you’re safe. What is, and what could be, paint a very clear picture of just what all is going on here. It would behoove you average citizen to realize what the end game here is. Healthcare? Taxes? Property ownership? Constitutional rights? Means, nothing..
Just wait until the dollar collapses... are you aware of the game we play with currency? It means nothing, it’s backed by dick in hand. Resources are tanking, it’s not some magical endless supply. You can’t drink fuckin oil man. At this point it’s all just a race to the bottom, and the noose is getting a little tighter bit by bit...
Go argue about how bad the left is, or the right is, or transgender bathrooms, or how bad Trump is, or Bernie is.... just don’t pay attention to how day by day you’re getting buttfucked with no vaseline...metaphorically speaking.
Greed is fun isn’t it??
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Amanita86]
#26441102 - 01/19/20 02:40 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I’m sure we’ll be fine.
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Re: Hello from 13.50 min wage. [Re: Enjoywho]
#26441116 - 01/19/20 02:58 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
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#26441125 - 01/19/20 03:25 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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What's with all the negativity
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