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From microdosing to the real thing..
#26440588 - 01/18/20 05:44 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Been microdosing on and off the last month and trying to dial in the dose. Sometimes I notice I’m more mindful and other times I’m just tired so this experiment is TBD I suppose. I’ve never tripped. But I’m getting the itch. IF I have been MD’ing and then jump to a 3.5g dose for my first trip will the tolerance from micro’ing be a factor in potency? I dosed 0.7 this morning, silly I even did that because again, just made me tired. Should I take a few days off and then try?
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Orange24]
#26440631 - 01/18/20 06:17 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Micro doses are generally smaller (0.1-0.4g although everyone is different). Personally, anything above 0.4g starts to give me body load and makes me slightly lethargic.
There may be slight increase in tolerance from 0.7g. It probably won’t be noticeable but I’d give it a week off from taking any dose and then go for your big dose.
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Socrateshroom]
#26440703 - 01/18/20 07:25 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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.7 to 3.5g would give you big effects from what you're used to, especially because you've technically never "tripped" and have kept it below threshold - although, .7 I consider over threshold but nothing significant.
I would give yourself like 2 or 3 days to let the brain kind of dust off its shelf so you can really dive into the experience of the 3.5 for the first time. Though, I do believe it wouldn't have too much of an impact if you did even take it the day after of dosing the .7
But I'd just advise you to wait a few days because the mushrooms aren't going anywhere - and I'm sure you want to feel the full effects of a "real" dose. Good luck to you man, it'll be worth the wait.
MD'ing has it's perks.. but when you really see the magic in the mushrooms.. you'll understand why it has to a profound impact on a lot of people's lives - whether it's to get a better understanding of self or just to explore your consciousness in a whole different perspective - it offers lessons in way more than one.
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: .7 to 3.5g would give you big effects from what you're used to, especially because you've technically never "tripped" and have kept it below threshold - although, .7 I consider over threshold but nothing significant.
I would give yourself like 2 or 3 days to let the brain kind of dust off its shelf so you can really dive into the experience of the 3.5 for the first time. Though, I do believe it wouldn't have too much of an impact if you did even take it the day after of dosing the .7
But I'd just advise you to wait a few days because the mushrooms aren't going anywhere - and I'm sure you want to feel the full effects of a "real" dose. Good luck to you man, it'll be worth the wait.
MD'ing has it's perks.. but when you really see the magic in the mushrooms.. you'll understand why it has to a profound impact on a lot of people's lives - whether it's to get a better understanding of self or just to explore your consciousness in a whole different perspective - it offers lessons in way more than one.

This is why I’m really interested in this. I’m also very nervous, to be honest. But I do want the “beautiful experience” that everyone speaks of. Is 3.5g too much for a first? If the trip starts and I can just tell myself to stay calm and ride this out will that help eliminate any major issues? Or is there no telling?
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Orange24]
#26440786 - 01/18/20 08:42 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: .7 to 3.5g would give you big effects from what you're used to, especially because you've technically never "tripped" and have kept it below threshold - although, .7 I consider over threshold but nothing significant.
I would give yourself like 2 or 3 days to let the brain kind of dust off its shelf so you can really dive into the experience of the 3.5 for the first time. Though, I do believe it wouldn't have too much of an impact if you did even take it the day after of dosing the .7
But I'd just advise you to wait a few days because the mushrooms aren't going anywhere - and I'm sure you want to feel the full effects of a "real" dose. Good luck to you man, it'll be worth the wait.
MD'ing has it's perks.. but when you really see the magic in the mushrooms.. you'll understand why it has to a profound impact on a lot of people's lives - whether it's to get a better understanding of self or just to explore your consciousness in a whole different perspective - it offers lessons in way more than one.

This is why I’m really interested in this. I’m also very nervous, to be honest. But I do want the “beautiful experience” that everyone speaks of. Is 3.5g too much for a first? If the trip starts and I can just tell myself to stay calm and ride this out will that help eliminate any major issues? Or is there no telling?
I'm nervous everytime I take mushrooms as well and I've taken them over two dozen times over the years. It's just our ego's defensive mechanism that feeds us that nervousness/anxiety. Personally, I believe that 3.5g is a great first time dose. Some people would recommend 2/2.5 for a first time - but I believe if you do think you can handle yourself 3.5 will be completely fine. Just go with the flow. Understand it's just the mushrooms and nothing will hurt you. If you begin to get anxiety.. turn on some good music and rock out. Changing whatever you're doing while you're experiencing any type of anxiety or fear helps.
Even singing, helps pump oxygen into the brain which does help with anxiety a ton. I'm more than sure you will have a good trip man. Set and setting go a long way. If you set yourself up for success, the mushrooms will give you nothing short of a beautiful experience. My biggest thing that makes my trips difficult at those levels, is the thoughts that I get. I just think a lot about past relationships, my connections between parents, how I've treated people over the years.. etc.
Things like this like to hide in the back of your head, and a lot of it definitely does surface under an experience. Don't connect too hard to a thought, let it rain over you and pass by. You may get sad as fast as you get happy, and happy as fast as you may get sad. It's all apart of the experience.
Just be safe buddy. Make sure you're in a comfortable familiar place, in a good mood with nothing bothering you too much. Those are when the trips usually are set up for the best sided experience opposed to little to no thought of set and setting!
I'm excited to hear a trip report if you go through with it! I'm sure you will - as curiosity has a hell of a way of getting us to do things.
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Orange24]
#26440843 - 01/18/20 09:25 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Orange24 said: This is why I’m really interested in this. I’m also very nervous, to be honest. But I do want the “beautiful experience” that everyone speaks of. Is 3.5g too much for a first? If the trip starts and I can just tell myself to stay calm and ride this out will that help eliminate any major issues? Or is there no telling?
Nervous goes with the comeup. You can shorten it if you make tea.
But don't overthink the dose or the trip - just get yer set and setting correct and enter the maelstrom. You can really have no idea what it's like before you do it, and in the afterglow after you do it you'll wonder WTF it was you were worried about.
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26440851 - 01/18/20 09:32 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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am i the only guy who’s never anxious during the come up but always anxious at some point in the trip
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26440855 - 01/18/20 09:34 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Raise the dose.
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26440868 - 01/18/20 09:44 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Orange24 said: This is why I’m really interested in this. I’m also very nervous, to be honest. But I do want the “beautiful experience” that everyone speaks of. Is 3.5g too much for a first? If the trip starts and I can just tell myself to stay calm and ride this out will that help eliminate any major issues? Or is there no telling?
Nervous goes with the comeup. You can shorten it if you make tea.
But don't overthink the dose or the trip - just get yer set and setting correct and enter the maelstrom. You can really have no idea what it's like before you do it, and in the afterglow after you do it you'll wonder WTF it was you were worried about. 
How do you make a tea? I turned all my yield into a powder. You prefer tea or consuming actual mushroom?
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Orange24]
#26440875 - 01/18/20 09:53 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Hmmm.... I have this really easy tek in my sig, the citric acid is optional I suppose. You'd just add some water to your powder, heat, rolling boil for a couple minutes, steep 10 minutes and try to strain out the powder.
When I eat the actual mushrooms it takes longer to take effect. If you eat a lot they can be puke provoking. Tea made the way I described extracts all the actives into a small amount of tea that can easily be chugged, even for very large doses of fresh mushrooms (the best IME).
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26440886 - 01/18/20 09:58 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Hmmm.... I have this really easy tek in my sig, the citric acid is optional I suppose. You'd just add some water to your powder, heat, rolling boil for a couple minutes, steep 10 minutes and try to strain out the powder.
When I eat the actual mushrooms it takes longer to take effect. If you eat a lot they can be puke provoking. Tea made the way I described extracts all the actives into a small amount of tea that can easily be chugged, even for very large doses of fresh mushrooms (the best IME).

I have a muslin bag, or a cheese cloth too that might work to strain it. So the dose would stay the same tea or not. Seems super easy to make a tea.
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26440889 - 01/18/20 10:00 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Raise the dose. 
Are the waves hitting you considered part of the come up? I kinda consider that the beginning of the trip
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26440949 - 01/18/20 11:01 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Are the waves hitting you considered part of the come up?
Not sure. Come up in my understanding is from the point when you start to feel it to where you switch into tripping, kind of the in-between stage. I've gone from the one to the other sometimes literally in the blink of an eye.
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So the dose would stay the same tea or not.
Tea dose should stay the same, some people find its a shorter but more intense experience but I think that's just because the come up is shorter.
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26440951 - 01/18/20 11:03 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Are the waves hitting you considered part of the come up?
Not sure. Come up in my understanding is from the point when you start to feel it to where you switch into tripping, kind of the in-between stage. I've gone from the one to the other sometimes literally in the blink of an eye.
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So the dose would stay the same tea or not.
Tea dose should stay the same, some people find its a shorter but more intense experience but I think that's just because the come up is shorter. 
What do you enjoy more? Also, random question but is there a better time of the day to use your first trip? I feel more relaxed in the evening but also think I could avoid any pitfalls if I went on a cool hike nearby.
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Orange24]
#26440954 - 01/18/20 11:09 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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The questions you're asking are all objective. What he likes may not be what you like. Tea hits you hard and fast as it's easily digested. Eating them on the other hand you get more of a drip effect. I like both. Eating them kind of makes the waves a bit more spread apart.. as for tea just throwing you in.
Also I love hiking on mushrooms. Though, for your first time I would just set up a little spot (preferably in a hammock) and see how you feel before you start walking around or whatever. Being in nature is one of the best settings one can do at doses of such. Unfortunately its cold where I'm at for a few more months, so I haven't been able to enjoy my outdoor trips :/
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: The questions you're asking are all objective. What he likes may not be what you like. Tea hits you hard and fast as it's easily digested. Eating them on the other hand you get more of a drip effect. I like both. Eating them kind of makes the waves a bit more spread apart.. as for tea just throwing you in.
Also I love hiking on mushrooms. Though, for your first time I would just set up a little spot (preferably in a hammock) and see how you feel before you start walking around or whatever. Being in nature is one of the best settings one can do at doses of such. Unfortunately its cold where I'm at for a few more months, so I haven't been able to enjoy my outdoor trips :/
Yeah here too. Very cold and wet haha
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Orange24]
#26440967 - 01/18/20 11:27 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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What do you enjoy more? Also, random question but is there a better time of the day to use your first trip? I feel more relaxed in the evening but also think I could avoid any pitfalls if I went on a cool hike nearby.
Testing for potency like recently (small doses like 6-10 g fresh) I'll just eat them, and/or if I'm already tripping sometimes. Otherwise it's always tea so I can't say much about eating more than a small dose. My first trip was a really long time ago and it was in the evening.
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Re: From microdosing to the real thing.. [Re: Orange24]
#26441053 - 01/19/20 01:16 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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How do you make a tea? I turned all my yield into a powder. You prefer tea or consuming actual mushroom?
I’ve recently started using a dehydrator to day my harvests. The dried mushrooms are so cracker dry I can crumble them into powder using my fingers. So when I’ve made the tea (I always strain out the mushrooms and discard) these last few times, my strainer doesn’t remove all the mushroom particles. And both trips I have had stomach ache, up in my solar plexus region. Not nausea as such, but a discomfort / pain that I never previously got.
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