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Re: new Eminem album [Re: Niffla] * 2
    #26441028 - 01/19/20 12:44 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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I'd never argue that white people shouldn't rap, or that white rappers are necessarily appropriating black culture. But I think it's fair to point out how quickly Eminem was accepted into the mainstream, how he was instantly labelled the king of rap, the insane amount of awards won and records sold relative to others making similar music at the time, and so on. The success he was met with was unprecedented in hip hop, and it isn't a crazy "PC bitchass" claim to say his whiteness could have played a part in that.




Em himself has explicitly said multiple times on his records that him being white obviously has had a major, ultimately positive impact on his global superstardom.

Keep in mind though that as he was coming up it was instead a monumental obstacle, as he was considered whack before anyone had even heard him utter a single bar in the Detroit battle rap scene.

Those were the days when any white rapper was immediately infected with the Vanilla Ice stigma. Em was routinely booed off stages coming up.

But yes when he finally broke through (largely because Dr. Dre gave him the ultimate vouch by signing him, Em instantly became a serious and credible rapper), he exploded and certainly being a blond haired, blue eyed white kid helped him in a major, major way. 

That said, his ridiculous skill in the booth is utterly undeniable. He's not just some average to decently skilled rapper who blew up simply because he's white.

One could make a legitimate case that the guy is the most talented and skilled rapper...ever. I'm not saying that he is by the way -- just that one could absolutely make a legitimate case on his behalf.

His flow is absolutely absurd and it's a really, really short list when it comes to guys who can match him when it comes to that.


Dude this 1 million times over. He would have succeeded with one arm


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Re: new Eminem album [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26441032 - 01/19/20 12:48 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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I will say this though real quick: I used to be a huge Em Stan. Just a massive fan.

I'm not as much anymore -- because I feel like his content has really, really waned. He seems completely hellbent on constantly reminding everyone that his flow is otherworldly, and nearly every track he puts out these days is him trying to display that.

Dude I think you more than proved that a long time ago. As much as I enjoy listening to these new ridiculous rhyme schemes he comes up with and am amazed by the delivery, the content for the most part really doesn't do much for me anymore, sadly. The shock value thing kinda wears off after the billionth time.

His delivery somehow has gotten better and better over time (which is nuts because his flow was already special in his early days) but his best album IMO is still (probably by far too) the Marshall Mathers LP. And that shit was released 20 years ago.


even if he fell off he always has those couple songs that I put on my playlist on albums he SURPRISE drops like every year at this point.
It’s gotta be hard to kill it when you are literally make make.  Idk I’m still a huge fan and see a lot of what you said in a lot of his new albums but the couple gems in there are a couple gems more than any of these new hip hop fools and I feel that more than makes up for the other meh content FOR ME


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Re: new Eminem album [Re: theRealrollforever] * 2
    #26441035 - 01/19/20 12:50 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

The stuff from 20 years ago is timeless though.  It’s gotta be hard to make 100 percent timeless music


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Re: new Eminem album [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26441237 - 01/19/20 06:57 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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Niffla said:
I will say this though real quick: I used to be a huge Em Stan. Just a massive fan.

I'm not as much anymore -- because I feel like his content has really, really waned. He seems completely hellbent on constantly reminding everyone that his flow is otherworldly, and nearly every track he puts out these days is him trying to display that.

Dude I think you more than proved that a long time ago. As much as I enjoy listening to these new ridiculous rhyme schemes he comes up with and am amazed by the delivery, the content for the most part really doesn't do much for me anymore, sadly. The shock value thing kinda wears off after the billionth time.

His delivery somehow has gotten better and better over time (which is nuts because his flow was already special in his early days) but his best album IMO is still (probably by far too) the Marshall Mathers LP. And that shit was released 20 years ago.




I had this exact thought yesterday! He still bleeds skill, but continuously has to remind himself and everyone else that he is/ was a lyrical genius instead of having fun and creating those goofy ass, but masterpiece songs.

I do understand that he is older and people do change... I guess what I'm trying to say is the skill is there but the personality isn't.


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Re: new Eminem album [Re: Donnie S] * 1
    #26441261 - 01/19/20 07:26 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

This album is a BANGERRRR. I've been Stan'ing for Marsh since he was forming like Voltron and blasting us with shoulder missiles. The production value is high, everything fits in as one cohesive project. I really appreciated those instrumentals and I thought Em brought a healthy measure of bars that ranged from insightful to fun which is how it's supposed to be. This is one of his best albums, it feels like the culmination of his career and I think he did a good ass job with it. Loved that .Paak feature. The toungue in cheek never fails, and the vintage aesthetic meshed really well with the electronic influence. Damn good album, best since Eminem Show


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Re: new Eminem album [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26441299 - 01/19/20 08:16 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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I forgot, clearly that insinuated I now think he's shit and out of a career!!! What are you even fucking saying? My opinion doesn't matter? I don't recall needing your approval or it being necessary you even look at my posts. Okay so he has money = my opinion is moot. I'm not talking about his fucking music you clown.





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Re: new Eminem album [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26441303 - 01/19/20 08:22 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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This album is a BANGERRRR. I've been Stan'ing for Marsh since he was forming like Voltron and blasting us with shoulder missiles. The production value is high, everything fits in as one cohesive project. I really appreciated those instrumentals and I thought Em brought a healthy measure of bars that ranged from insightful to fun which is how it's supposed to be. This is one of his best albums, it feels like the culmination of his career and I think he did a good ass job with it. Loved that .Paak feature. The toungue in cheek never fails, and the vintage aesthetic meshed really well with the electronic influence. Damn good album, best since Eminem Show



Good review really validated my own opinion too 5 Shrooms :rofl:


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