Just a few things.
I've always either used Rue in powder encapsulated form (grind the seeds up in a coffee grinder), or i make my own full spectrum Rue or purified Harmala extracts and encapsulate the extract. Encapsulating powdered Rue seed works and is absorbed absolutely fine, may be a bit rougher on the gut, but i find roasting the whole seeds prior to grinding them up into a powder, seems to make it easier on the gut. Whereas using freebased Rue or Harmala extracts doesn't really cause much in the way of gut discomfort, but can still make you vomit if dosage is high enough.
Secondly, i've always waited 30 minutes to an hour after the Rue seed powder capsules or the freebased full spectrum Rue or freebased purified Harmala extract capsule, to take the Mimosa or Acacia, 30 minutes if consuming the actual root powder in capsules, or an hour if consuming a Mimosa or Acacia tea. I've also used Mimosa/Acacia root residue made my making a tea/liquid extract of the Mimosa/Acacia, evaporating the dose down, scraping it up and encapsulating it, it's a lot gentler on the gut than ingesting the actual root powder.
Keep in mind, the Harmalas are what makes Ayahuasca, Ayahuasca. I disagree with people that Caapi is Ayahuasca, i mean i know it is, but i also see Rue as Ayahuasca because of the Harmala content, it's essentially the same technology as Ayahuasca and capable of the same things near about, but is merely a different flavor because of the background alkaloids and differences in Harmala ratios, but both Caapi and Rue are essentially the same technology. I've gotten all the same things from using Rue that people report when using Caapi, and i've tried Caapi a few good times and i much prefer Rue, but that's me. Sure, Caapi is gentler than Rue, Rue is more powerful and intense than Caapi, but Rue is a hell of a plant and imo it deserves a lot more credit than it's given.
As for it being merely "orally active DMT", naw, even when using Rue it goes way beyond orally active DMT. If you want oral DMT, go for using Moclobemide to orally activate DMT, as Moclobemide is merely an MAO-A inhibitor and has no other properties, unlike with the Harmalas, as the Harmalas have other properties that cause the Ayahuasca effects, so when using Harmalas, at least enough of a dosage, it's more Ayahuasca-like, when using Moclobemide, it's more DMT-like Some people dose low on the Harmalas/Rue/Caapi in order to have more of a DMT-like experience, but at the same time, even at low doses the Harmalas still alter/color the DMT experience, Moclobemide does not. Heck i even consumed 2.5 grams of Rue with 35mgs of 4-ACO-DMT and 4 grams of Lemon Balm tea and i could still notice the resulting Psilohuasca experience being more Aya-like than mushroom or 4-ACO-like, especially when Tobacco was smoked.
Speaking of which Happiness, as i've stated before, for beginners i do recommend Lemon Balm tea, it'll clean up how the Rue feels and smooth out the intense come up, i highly highly recommend it, even if you don't end up taking the Lemon Balm, it's good to have around in case you need it.
But yeah if making a Mimosa or Acacia tea, you want to try boiling it as much as possible to make sure you get all the goodies out, shouldn't need to boil it for hours, but i've always just used the jar method for an individual dose, or brewed up a bulk tea for multiple doses, the jar method for an individual dose does not require boiling/brewing, just take some Mimosa or Acacia powder, put it in a jar with some room temp water, shake it up very well periodically throughout the day and let it sit overnight, next day filter it off through a coffee filter and there ya go, from there you can either boil/simmer it a little to reduce water volume, if you used more water than you care to drink, or evaporate it in a dish in front of a fan for a residue that can be scraped up and encapsulated. For brewing a single dose tea though, i'd say an hour or two's worth of boiling should get it all, maybe even 45 minutes.
As far as Mimosa dosage goes, 3 to 5 to 8 grams at most, don't go over that, i'm telling you, 8 grams is strong as hell, 5 grams is usually my go to dosage, 3 grams is a good low/start dosage. For Acacia, i go for typically 6 to 10 grams, 10 grams being a full on dosage. For Rue dosage, typically 2 to 2.5 grams to 3 to 3.5 grams to 4 to 4.5 grams, but i generally never go over 4.5 grams, my usual go to Rue dosage is 3 to 4 grams.
Also, before anyone comes and says it, there's absolutely no need to avoid anything dietarily, as there's no Tyramine interactions with reversible MAO-A inhibition. Only thing you need to avoid with MAO-A inhibition is things like SSRI's, Amphetamines/Meth/MDMA, and other things that can raise or release Serotonin or Noradrenaline levels. Also worth keeping in mind is Harmalas inhibit CYP2D6 and CYP1A2, so anything metabolized by those liver enzymes will be potentiated a good bit, so like Caffeine for example is metabolized by CYP1A2 and so as a result Caffeine is quite potentiated, so be careful about that.
Edited by Sabnock (01/18/20 01:17 PM)
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Also something i mentioned but want to expand on just a tad, is how different plants have different flavors. Other plants may not be traditional, but work just as well, even though they have different flavors/characteristics compared to traditional plants. But, with that said, even traditional brews can vary significantly depending upon the admixture plants shamans add to their brews, so there's a lot of variation even within the traditional brews, unless you're, specifically taking a basic 2 plant combination, but some people add 3 plants, 5 plants, 10, 15, even up to a hundred or so, apparently from what i've read, into a single combination, which means that even with traditional brews, they can be flavored/altered significantly. So Aya is not "one thing", it can be many many things, and used for many different purposes, it just depends on how deep you get with it and what all you want to do with it and which plants best suit you. Me personally, all i need is Rue, Mimosa or Acacia (preferably Acacia), Lemon Balm, and Tobacco during certain moments (Cannabis too), but Tobacco and Cannabis aren't necessary, but they do have usefulness and can bring out certain aspects of the Aya that you wouldn't otherwise get, and for me at least serves a purpose/role in my Aya journey/experiences. Lemon Balm isn't necessary either, but i much prefer Aya with Lemon Balm than without it, it makes things better for me, especially in terms of how the Rue feels (it's so much cleaner/clearer with Lemon Balm than without it).
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Also as stated, one can use the Rue seed powder or tea, or Caapi tea, or you can also use pure Harmine, pure Harmaline, Harmine/Harmaline mix, full spectrum freebased Rue or Caapi extract, Caapi resin or Rue resin, or Moclobemide (for orally active DMT or Mimosa/Acacia/Chacruna/Chaliponga). But when it comes to dosages, it's really best not to eyeball it or guesstimate, it's best to use a gram scale for plant material, and a milligram scale for extracts, otherwise you risk under or over-dosing, and while underdosing can be underwhelming, overdosing can be quite overwhelming and i wouldn't want anyone to get scared away from such a sacred and highly valuable sacrament/substance/tool. So imo it's worth 20 bucks to get a scale.
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