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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: SFS96]
#26438117 - 01/17/20 09:14 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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SFS96 said: I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.
I rarely smoked weed until hash got that poor 20 years ago I learnt to grow. That first mini joint I had from my own crop changed my world. Could not believe it could be so powerful. Been hooked since. My daughter’s a teenager now though so I’ve had to stop growing - costing me a fortune; the £20 bags are about 1.5g. In my day they were 3 to 4g! Robbin gets, needs to be legal!
You’ve pretty much described me above! If they ever introduced drug testing at work though, I’d be fooked! Would take months to be clear!
Mush love, DJ Ed
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: DJ Ed]
#26438145 - 01/17/20 09:23 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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SFS96 said: I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.
I rarely smoked weed until hash got that poor 20 years ago I learnt to grow. That first mini joint I had from my own crop changed my world. Could not believe it could be so powerful. Been hooked since. My daughter’s a teenager now though so I’ve had to stop growing - costing me a fortune; the £20 bags are about 1.5g. In my day they were 3 to 4g! Robbin gets, needs to be legal!
You’ve pretty much described me above! If they ever introduced drug testing at work though, I’d be fooked! Would take months to be clear!
Mush love, DJ Ed
G’daam, 5-7g every day?? Talk about heavy hitters lol
I smoke every day, but it only takes like 0.2g to get me stoned. $1.50 gravity bong FTW.

I grew for a while too, but having a grow tent at home did not jive well with my paranoia. Tossed everything after the scare of my life. Cops knocked on my door while I was flushing some nute-burnt plants. I started freaking out loosing my shit cause they were REALLY pounding on the door...turns out it was the apartment across the hall from me - dude was beating his wife and she called them.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: feldman114]
#26438206 - 01/17/20 09:47 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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🤣🤣 I remember when I use to smoke through grams of 80% plus THC concentrate on a daily basis for about 2 years. True addict
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: feldman114]
#26438245 - 01/17/20 10:08 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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Yeah probably about 5g a week these days. My scariest moment was 17 years ago visiting family; had a wick setup to keep my plants hydrated while I was away. Got back and we’d been burgled. Took all the Christmas presents, and all my plants. They missed my stash though. Anyway after a 10 hour commute I spent the next hour cleansing the house before I could ring the police! It’s one of the two ways careful growers can get caught: telling anybody else you grow, and getting burgled / having to call the police for something. They’re not the most understanding of people, either, the police.....
Mush love, DJ Ed
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: DJ Ed]
#26438315 - 01/17/20 10:47 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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4 or 5 days break is good, twice or thrice per month and you will see you are not an addict. you will remember more, trip better on smaller amounts, be less lazy, and be more mentally and physically coordinated.
that's my opinion to get great results.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: redgreenvines]
#26438334 - 01/17/20 10:59 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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What have you noticed about short term memory and marijuana usage, redgreenvines? Earlier in the thread, I saw that it can take 30 days to get oneself on the same level as a nonsmoker, but that's of course just a study.
My first assumption with my tolerance break was roughly a week off should allow the 'magic' to return and it to be more of an occasion.
I think there's a very specific point that tips the scale and causes people to go full in on smoking, a sort of revelation or epiphany that comes a few days into smoking. I think it comes from being 'in between worlds' so to speak, being familiar with being stoned and sober, and you realize that despite the consequences being stoned is loads better. Then I think a few missteps and you'll be a little too high all the time and have too much of a tolerance to understand how bad the problem is. Then being sober starts to sound better and you quit. Then being sober gets boring and the cycle repeats.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: redgreenvines]
#26438358 - 01/17/20 11:16 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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I did a week last October! The intention though was the full month. Been on a cannabis binge, I suppose, since then! I rarely feel stoned, and the highs are sort of how I like to feel; chilled, relaxed,spacing out watching a bit of Netflix after work! Rarely if ever get the giggles or the paranoia, but I must admit, when I am around people I can sometimes feel really stoned!
My goal is to stop cannabis all together, except for when used in combination with mushrooms....
Mush love, DJ Ed
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: DJ Ed]
#26438374 - 01/17/20 11:23 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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I’m glad someone said it. Cant even imagine taking mushies with no weed on hand. It’s my anchor, and those seas can get stormy real fast.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: feldman114]
#26438395 - 01/17/20 11:37 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: I’m glad someone said it. Cant even imagine taking mushies with no weed on hand. It’s my anchor, and those seas can get stormy real fast.
I would call the trip off, if I couldn’t get hold of any grass. Almost came to that before Christmas; but scraped out all my tubs, and used some of the powder in the bottom layer of the grinder, so managed to roll the customary 4 joints. What I wasn’t expecting though was that they were strong as fuck, and really caught me out. Happens once maybe twice a year lol, but on mushrooms well a different level of being caught out! Up until this trip I smoked my first joint when I felt the mushrooms kicking in (a la Terence McKenna). Well this time, I could not smoke to the end. Had to go to the back door for cold fresh air. Almost felt like a whitey. Then the come up / trip stopped for the next 2 hours??? Really really weird come up sensations! I was really careful with the joints for the rest of the night after that, but even a few puffs accelerated me to light speed! Anyway, when I felt like I started tripping again, after two hours waiting, the rest of the trip, which incidentally was really weirdly strong, felt like it was happening 10 minutes in the past. I cannot better explain the sensation of being behind the trip.
My subsequent trips, I no longer smoke on the come up; I wait until I am firmly in the peak.
Anyway, thought I’d share that! Happy ending: when I started to come down from that trip, got some Pink Floyd on and more joints from the powder,, and well, the after glow was super super chilled.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: DJ Ed]
#26438414 - 01/17/20 11:47 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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I only sometimes want it while tripping, but after the psychedelic is over it's the only way to get back to normal! I always feel so wired and 'melty' for a while if I don't smoke a little bit of bud then fall asleep.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: SFS96]
#26438421 - 01/17/20 11:50 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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SFS96 said: I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.
Extreme weed use permanently lowers short term memory over time
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26438443 - 01/17/20 12:01 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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SFS96 said: I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.
Extreme weed use permanently lowers short term memory over time
Is there any proof for this? In adults?
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: feldman114]
#26438549 - 01/17/20 12:55 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26438555 - 01/17/20 01:00 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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“ The first group consists of 10 people who don't smoke pot or only do so occasionally. Let's say on average, people in this group would be able to remember nine out of the 15 words. The second group consists of people who smoked pot every single day over a period of five years. On average, they'd be able to recall 8.5 out of the 15 words.”
Groundbreaking.
It’s not that I don’t believe it, I was just under the impression that the only solid proof of permanent damage from weed was found in people under 25.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26438557 - 01/17/20 01:01 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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I mean, weed has changed a lot over time. It might take a minute for the people using strong as hell bud or concentrate to age and partake in a bunch of studies to determine exactly what absurd THC consumption does to the brain.
I frequently hear about people that are 'fried' from smoking too much, that is very poor memory, kind of zombie like, little emotion. Only really heard that though, don't have any first hand encounters or experience. Sometimes I think a certain type of people are attracted to smoking weed all of the time and that could just have a worse eduction, probably started as kids, and just prioritize different kinds of knowledge, most likely.
That study doesn't really seem all that freaky. Every day for five years! That's a lot of cannabis and, I would think, little self control. And performed just about as well on that memory test, too? Not very worrying for occasional smokers. I do wonder, however, what the long term effects of concentrate and high potency marijuana will be. I would think that to smoke every day for over a year you'd have to have some pretty dank stuff, however
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: jdawg333]
#26438660 - 01/17/20 02:02 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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20 straight years of weed = -2.5/15 words.
Yes, it's not a big difference. And yes, you need an extreme amount of weed to damage your brain. But claiming weed has absolutely no negative effects is almost as naive claiming it completely fucks you up.
Nuance exists, folks.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: feldman114]
#26438665 - 01/17/20 02:06 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: I was just under the impression that the only solid proof of permanent damage from weed was found in people under 25.
Well the veracity of your impression depends on what you consider "solid proof." We don't know for sure it even has effects on children (correlation ≠ causation no matter how many factors you control for) but the preponderance of evidence does seem to indicate that weed can be damaging with extreme long-term use.
Kinda like nicotine... (the main difference being weed's effects are "less bad" and weed is FAR less addictive)
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26438682 - 01/17/20 02:22 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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Smoking something every day for 5 years makes you remember 0.5 words less than the guy who doesn’t smoke. So idk how that can be called harmful. Compared to what? Air?
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was waaay worse. I never said weed is harmless, though you seem to have assumed I think so. But such marginal decline in short term memory might not mean anything, considering how many variables are involved in a 5-year time period. Plus, the only controls were people who don’t smoke - no placebo group that smoked hemp or w.e.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: feldman114]
#26439481 - 01/18/20 01:32 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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SFS96 said: I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.
Extreme weed use permanently lowers short term memory over time
Well I guess I’m fucked lol I believe everyone is different but I know many life long pot heads who don’t have any issues from years of heavy use. I find it to be a very spiritual herb and I believe it can bring healing to many people when respected and used with good intentions.
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SFS96 said: I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.
I rarely smoked weed until hash got that poor 20 years ago I learnt to grow. That first mini joint I had from my own crop changed my world. Could not believe it could be so powerful. Been hooked since. My daughter’s a teenager now though so I’ve had to stop growing - costing me a fortune; the £20 bags are about 1.5g. In my day they were 3 to 4g! Robbin gets, needs to be legal!
You’ve pretty much described me above! If they ever introduced drug testing at work though, I’d be fooked! Would take months to be clear!
Mush love, DJ Ed
G’daam, 5-7g every day?? Talk about heavy hitters lol
I smoke every day, but it only takes like 0.2g to get me stoned. $1.50 gravity bong FTW.

I grew for a while too, but having a grow tent at home did not jive well with my paranoia. Tossed everything after the scare of my life. Cops knocked on my door while I was flushing some nute-burnt plants. I started freaking out loosing my shit cause they were REALLY pounding on the door...turns out it was the apartment across the hall from me - dude was beating his wife and she called them.
Yeah i love my weed 5-7g is just kinda a rough estimate, I probably smoke 5-10 decent sized joints a day sometimes and my wife smokes some with me but she smokes mostly dabs and I’m all about the green. I always have a few pounds around the house so it’s not hard to blaze down.
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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: SFS96]
#26440124 - 01/18/20 12:01 PM (4 years, 29 days ago) |
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For those concerned about the effects of THC/Cannabis on short term memory, try giving something Cholinergic a try, like Alpha-Pinene for example (a terpene naturally found in Cannabis and various other plants). I've taken Lemon EO for a few years, also pure Limonene, and pure Alpha-Pinene, and they definitely clean up how Cannabis feels, can cut back on the paranoia and anxiety and memory deficits, Alpha-Pinene for memory, Limonene for anxiety/paranoia, much more clearheaded and functional. But for me, Cannabis these days causes me to have Psychedelic experiences so i don't feel like partaking as much, but as far as memory and paranoia and such goes, definitely look into the the terpenes. I take my terps orally, but i'd imagine one can also vape them, perhaps.
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